daniel48706
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The number one ting is to keep ensuring her that both you and dad love her no matter what, and that nothing changes how either of you feel about her.
In regards to the spending the night at dad's house, you need to enforce that, yes I say enforce, because by allowing her to not do so in the beginning will not help her get over her nervousness or fears in any way. By all means let her know she can call you whenever she wants (so long as it isn't every five minutes lol), but that she has to spend time with her daddy. She MAY fight you and Dad on this initially, but it is something you as the parent are going to have to look her in the eye about and tel her that she has to do it, at least until she is old enough to make a rational decision herself (I would suggest following your states guidelines as for when a child can choose in court which parent they prefer to live with). By the sounds of it, you don't have any reasons to be worried about her care while she is with dad, so make sure you enforce the visitation so that she knows her Dad. In the end she will thank you for it, no matter how unlikely that day seems to be coming, lol. |
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Specific instances aside, I described what I know to be the legal ramifications and/or responsibilities of different officials. The only "group" I left out in a general sense would be politicians (which includes military leaders). these politicians, do not have any safeguards in discussing ANYTHING that is confidential, or secret, and can not even legally say anything anonymously, though it is overlooked daily.
QUOTE: QUOTE: The quote that you just posted answers invictus's questions, so I suggest you read it again. QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: So you are saying someone like the guy that brought down Nixon should have been put in jail? Woodward as well? He didn't disclose his anonymous source for 30 years. Interesting concept. Depends on the process in which the person used to "bring down Nixon". I don't know who said what, to whom or how, so I can not give an opinion on that. I CAN say however, that if it was confidential and secret material, that the only legal way he would have had to do so, was to file a report with someone in authority that has the right to that information. Would that be easily done? probably not, but it's still the right way to do it, and the legal way. With woodward, I believe you are referring to a journalist or reporter of some kind? Or do you mean a lawyer or even a priest? reporters, journalists, etc do not have the legal right and obligation to withold their sources. A lawyer and a Priest both do, and I believe both, I know in a lawyers case it is true, they both have to disclose if someone says they are going to commit a crime in the future. With a lawyer, yuo can admit to murder, rape, arson, whatever yuo did, and the lawyer can not do anything other than remove himself as your lawyer (if he is your hired lawyer when you tell him); this holds true for all lawyers who work even in the same office as said lawyer. However, if you go in and say I am going to go rape the little lady down he street this afternoon and then....... the lawyer is legally obligated to call the police and report you. A priest, has the legal right to withold confessions. I am not sure if they are required to report plans of a crime or not. I hope this answers your question Do a little research on Watergate, then get back to us and let us know what you think. I'd like to hear an answer to InvictusV's questions, too. You didn't seem to know what happened with Watergate, which is why I responded the way I did. And I specifically stated I do not know the specifics, so.....
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daniel48706
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The quote that you just posted answers invictus's questions, so I suggest you read it again.
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: So you are saying someone like the guy that brought down Nixon should have been put in jail? Woodward as well? He didn't disclose his anonymous source for 30 years. Interesting concept. Depends on the process in which the person used to "bring down Nixon". I don't know who said what, to whom or how, so I can not give an opinion on that. I CAN say however, that if it was confidential and secret material, that the only legal way he would have had to do so, was to file a report with someone in authority that has the right to that information. Would that be easily done? probably not, but it's still the right way to do it, and the legal way. With woodward, I believe you are referring to a journalist or reporter of some kind? Or do you mean a lawyer or even a priest? reporters, journalists, etc do not have the legal right and obligation to withold their sources. A lawyer and a Priest both do, and I believe both, I know in a lawyers case it is true, they both have to disclose if someone says they are going to commit a crime in the future. With a lawyer, yuo can admit to murder, rape, arson, whatever yuo did, and the lawyer can not do anything other than remove himself as your lawyer (if he is your hired lawyer when you tell him); this holds true for all lawyers who work even in the same office as said lawyer. However, if you go in and say I am going to go rape the little lady down he street this afternoon and then....... the lawyer is legally obligated to call the police and report you. A priest, has the legal right to withold confessions. I am not sure if they are required to report plans of a crime or not. I hope this answers your question Do a little research on Watergate, then get back to us and let us know what you think. I'd like to hear an answer to InvictusV's questions, too. |
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daniel48706
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sorry but the truth can not by definition have more than one meaning. For example, let's say "a home at 555 sycamore street caught fire around 3am this morning. All occupants managed to get out safely, though the house was not able to be saved. Officials contnue to investigate the possibility of arson." Sounds cut and dry, correct?
Now let's just say for the sake of argument, that the town requires by law that all fires be investigated as possible arson, thus it is normal procedure to do so. This does not need to be added to teh news story, as it is common procedure and required by law that the officials do so.. However, by adding that one line, which is undoubtedly true, the officials are investigating because they have to, it makes it sound like there is reason to believe it was a case of arson. This, in my opinion is wrong, and should be punishable if allowed to happen. All it does is dramatize the situation, and make suggestions that are not based on anything. My point is, no matter what a jouranlist or reporters personal opinion on the matter may be, they need to stick to the solid facts, and the truth, not embellish it in a way to "make tit more newsworty. |
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QUOTE: Move to China if that is what you want.You can watch all the news which is censored by the Government first.Sounds like Nazi tactics to me. No Thomas itis called the RIGHT to the truth from the news agencies, and not propaganda or outright false stories that werent even blinked at let alone verified as to there truthfullness. If you want science fiction and fantasy, pick up the national enquirer or star, but keep your general papers to the facts and truth! And do NOT publish what is supposed to be a national secret or private. |
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daniel48706
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so very true msharmony, so very true!
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roflmbo so hard I need 911 to start me breathing again!
Thomas you old fool, lol you have just contradicted yourself bigger than imaginable. quoteIn 2009 alone, 15 American Muslim extremists and three U.S. permanent residents have been arrested for their involvement in terrorism cases The following is a list of American Muslim extremists that have been charged, convicted or sentenced on terrorism charges in 2009. unquote the numbers mentioned equal out to only 18 people, yet when you **** all the people you listed it comes out to a whopping 23! That's five more people than were even arrested by your own statements! Now, I am sure you did not mean to suggest that all of them were arrested, convicted and sentenced in 2009. However, the total number of 23 in an 8 year span is NOT an alarming number, other than being alarming cause any were found to begin with. QUOTE: Terrorism Criminal Proceedings in 2009 Updated: October 22, 2009 http://www.adl.org/main_Terrorism/american_muslim_extremists_2009.htm An alarming number of American Muslim extremists have been arrested on various terror-related charges, ranging from bomb plots to providing material support to terrorists, since the September 11 terrorist attacks. In 2009 alone, 15 American Muslim extremists and three U.S. permanent residents have been arrested for their involvement in terrorism cases, while 13 Americans have been convicted on terror-related charges. The following is a list of American Muslim extremists that have been charged, convicted or sentenced on terrorism charges in 2009. October 21, 2009 - A Massachusetts man with dual American and Egyptian citizenship is arrested for allegedly plotting to attack a U.S. shopping mall and American soldiers in Iraq. October 21, 2009 - Two U.S. citizens and one permanent resident are sentenced in an Ohio federal court for conspiring to recruit and train terrorists to attack American troops overseas. September 29, 2009 - A New York man who attempted to funnel thousands of dollars to a terrorist training camp in Afghanistan has pleaded guilty to terrorism financing. September 24, 2009 - A U.S. permanent resident with alleged links to Al Qaeda is indicted for an alleged plot to detonate explosives in the U.S. A week earlier, a U.S. citizen and another permanent resident were charged with lying to federal authorities in relation to the case. September 24, 2009 - A Brooklyn resident is indicted in New York for attempting to join a foreign terrorist group and fight American forces in Afghanistan, Iraq and the Balkans. September 23, 2009 - An Illinois resident who attempted to bomb the federal courthouse in Springfield is charged with attempted murder of a federal officer or employee and attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction against property owned by the United States. August 12, 2009 - A Somali-American from Minnesota pleads guilty to training with an Al Qaeda-linked terrorist group in Somalia. August 12, 2009 - An American citizen who shot casing videos of U.S. landmarks for potential terrorist attacks in the Washington, D.C. area is convicted in Georgia for conspiring to support terrorists. August 7, 2009 - A Houston man who conspired to join the Taliban and fight against U.S. forces is sentenced to 54 months in prison. July 27, 2009 - Six U.S. citizens and a permanent resident are arrested for engaging in weapons training and conspiring to carry out "violent jihad" overseas. An eighth suspect, also an American citizen, is still at large. July 27, 2009 - A Virginia man convicted of conspiring to assassinate President George W. Bush and providing material support to Al Qaeda is sentenced to life in prison. July 13, 2009 - Two Somali-Americans from Brooklyn Park, MN, and Seattle, WA, are charged with providing material support to terrorists and conspiracy to kill, kidnap, maim and injure. June 10, 2009 - A former Georgia Tech student who shot videos of U.S. landmarks in the Washington, D.C. area for potential terrorist attacks is convicted in Atlanta of conspiring to support terrorists. June 2, 2009 - Three American citizens and a Haitian native are indicted for allegedly plotting to attack two synagogues in the Bronx and to shoot down planes at a military base in Newburgh, New York. June 1, 2009 - An American convert to Islam who shot two uniformed American soldiers - one of whom was killed - at a military recruiting center in Little Rock, Arkansas, is charged with 16 counts of committing a terrorist act. May 27, 2009 - Three American citizens are among the five leaders and former fundraisers of the Holy Land Foundation, once considered the largest Muslim charity in the U.S., sentenced to between 15 to 65 years in prison for funneling money to the Hamas terrorist organization. May 12, 2009 - Four U.S. citizens and one Haitian national are convicted for plotting to attack the Sears Tower in Chicago, the FBI headquarters in Miami and other U.S. buildings. April 29-30, 2009 - A U.S. citizen, a U.S. permanent resident and three others from Southern New Jersey and Philadelphia are sentenced between 30 years and life in prison for conspiring to attack the Fort Dix army base in New Jersey. April 3, 2009 - A former U.S. sailor convicted of leaking classified information about a U.S. Naval battle group to alleged terror supporters is sentenced to ten years in prison. March 6, 2009 - The apparent leader of a terror cell that plotted to attack Jewish institutions and U.S. military targets in Los Angeles is sentenced to 16 years in prison. February 26, 2009 - An Ohio man accused of joining Al Qaeda in the early 1990s is sentenced to 20 years in prison for planning terrorist attacks in the U.S. and Europe. January 28, 2009 - A Long Island man pleaded guilty to providing information about New York City transit systems to Al Qaeda for potential terrorist attacks and to firing rockets at an American military base in Afghanistan. January 15, 2009 - Two Chicago cousins are convicted of conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists in connection with their travels abroad in order to murder U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan |
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daniel48706
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so very true mark. The media is one of the biggest problems we face int his country. They have been allowed to become a "superpower" in themselves, and to do whatever they want to do in the name of freedom of the press.
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QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: i really just cant take it! i am a war vet i know first hand its not the killing its the dead charred bodies you remember most! its knowing your friend is dead now and wanting to punch back! obviously everyone is different but this is a real issue and it is very difficult no matter how strong you are! The thing is though that is not the case here in my opinion this guy was an extremist and people ae covering that up and trying to say war stress! it was not war stress! he was a traitor to his nation and should be thought of as such! they should wrap him in a pig and face him face down in his grave toward the west! The problem we are all having though with your belief Ronny, and I understand it is your belief, is that you are basing it off of supposition. You are assuming that you have the facts when in fact you do not. You are hellbent on the idea that this guy can not possibly be anything other than an extremist terrorist. Even though you yourself have stated that it is different for each person and in your case it isn't killing another person it is seeing others get killed or wounded that hurts you the most. I have to make dinner for my boys, but will be back on afterwards. it is not supposition if there is evidence! what are you talking about. i have made a conclusion based on the facts so far! you say you need more fine but it does not change my opionion i have enough to form an opinion. hurts you??? lol im not hurt bro gld i did my part! just very terrorfying no matter how strong you are at least i think so! "it is not supposition if you have evidence" That is my point you do not have "evidence" of anything other than his believing in Allah, and that he shot all those people. There is no "evidence" as of yet to show WHY he did what he did. Thus your opinion is based off of other opinions and frankly in most cases biasses, even if they turn out to be right in the end, they are still not fact at this point! please! quit coming in here and claiming you are basing off of fact when you are NOT. |
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My family is not being threatened by the taliban? I beg to differ brother. My family missed being on the flight out of Newark New Jersey by just a couple months. We were on our way to Hawaii for a change of duty station, and flying a carbon copy flight of the one that went down outside Camp David. Also, the latest "threat" which involved blowing up D.C. with a nuclear bomb about a month ago (?) was close enough to home that I would have felt the effects of it with about an hour or so at most if even that long if it happened. That's just the immediate and personal threats. The fact that they threaten our country, our way of living, our rights, the rights of our women and children, I could continue on forever, but that all effects me also. Also, I DID serve my time, that's why I state that I can speak with authority and first hand knowledge. My first duty station was a combat support hospital and we deployed out to the Balkains as the second unit out there, leaving on Christmas eve 1995. I have seen way too many casualties myself, and worked hand in hand triaging them, and doing whatever else I could as a non-medic, to help them be as comfortable as possible. That is why I WONT sign up again now. it is not for me ANYMORE.
As for not offering a bona-fide solution, who bona-fides it? I have offered many an opinion in the past, and even in this thread as to what I fell needs to be done, but they are not popular ideas, as it involves more military, and making young adults choose what hey want to do in the short term after high school, as well as giving everybody an education which will also help with our economy as well as our military. So please do not sit back in your comfy chair, and claim I have no business offering my opinions or beliefs. QUOTE: just a thought when thinking of war and forming an opinion i think its best to veiw yourself as the man/woman making that decision. So if your obama what do you do? come up with a strategy and stand by it, but to merely say im this and that without a bonafide solution is wrong! especially when its not your family being theatend by the taliban! |
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daniel48706
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whats this about a sherrifs deputy? I have not seen that report yet, and the first question that comes to mind is what is a sherrifs deputy doing on fort hood, in the first place, let alone in the capacity to engage this guy. She had no authority (dont get me wrong I am all for her opening fire back, but she had no legal juisdiction or authority in the matter).
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QUOTE: i really just cant take it! i am a war vet i know first hand its not the killing its the dead charred bodies you remember most! its knowing your friend is dead now and wanting to punch back! obviously everyone is different but this is a real issue and it is very difficult no matter how strong you are! The thing is though that is not the case here in my opinion this guy was an extremist and people ae covering that up and trying to say war stress! it was not war stress! he was a traitor to his nation and should be thought of as such! they should wrap him in a pig and face him face down in his grave toward the west! The problem we are all having though with your belief Ronny, and I understand it is your belief, is that you are basing it off of supposition. You are assuming that you have the facts when in fact you do not. You are hellbent on the idea that this guy can not possibly be anything other than an extremist terrorist. Even though you yourself have stated that it is different for each person and in your case it isn't killing another person it is seeing others get killed or wounded that hurts you the most. I have to make dinner for my boys, but will be back on afterwards. |
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QUOTE: What does that mean Daniel? You are either a pacifist and non violent or you are not. We are all pacifists about out own bodies..it is in the respect for all life and refusal to take any life that makes a non violent pacifist.... I mean exactly what I said. I am a pacifist who does not believe in involving myself in violence. Now if you come at me with a baseball bat yes I will defend myself lol, though I will first try to run the other way; BUT I am not willing to concede the point that other countries, and people will force us to defend ourselves. Which means, as distasteful as war is, we need to have a standing army with enough personel in it to ensure that our soldiers are effective and NOT forced to see too much action. |
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I am not trying to say he IS definitely unequivocably insane or out of his mind. I am trying to get you to admit that the POSSIBILITY that he is out of his mind is there.
I have specifically stated that I am not saying he is crazy nor am I saying he is another Hitler. I am saying I don't have the facts, nor do you or anyone else outside of the government at this point, to make such a decision. If investigation proves he is another Hitler then I most certainly agree he needs to be punished (though not murdered; I do NOT believe in the death penalty). BUT if they show that he was as much a victim as his victims were, then he needs hel pin that respect FIRST. QUOTE: he knew exactly what he was doing.. he was very much attatched to reality. he knew he was about to get on plane and land with his boots in the sand.. he was determined to do whatever he thought was within his means, up to and including murder, clearly, not to get deployed to the sandbox. If it got him killed, then all the better in mind.. Too bad for him, it didn't. What's your empathy for this cold blooded killer anyways? You seem to be bent on the conclusion that he's mentally ill which is as much based on conjecture and hearsay as youlambast others for.. He'll get his due process and then if justice is to be served, he'll get the needle or a straight jacket.. just so long as his perverted, amoral, criminal _ss doesn't ever see the outside of a box again, I don't care whether it's above ground or below.. |
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I am very much a pacifist myself in regards to my own body, now though I wasn't ten years ago. I agree with you that wars need to end; the problem there is others do not agree with us, and will not allow us to live in peace like that. So, we need to have a standing army, and we need to have our troops where they can do the most good. BUT we need to make sure that no one troop sees too much.
QUOTE: QUOTE: Very well put Ladylid, this nonsense has got to stop. However I think yu are saying that we need to pull all our troops home, etc correct? I am not saying that, I am saying that we need to start filling our ranks back up again to where they used to be, so that our active duty soldiers do NOT spend more than 6 months at a time deployed, and never two deployments back to back, let alone three, four and five all back to back thus being away from home for over 5 and 6 years. We need our military, whether people want to believe this or not; otherwise we would not be able to stop other countries from invading us (and yes this means having our military deployed as well). We also need to make sure we have ENOUGH military to ensure that no troop is ever over deployed, like they have been for the past decade almost. QUOTE: QUOTE: After the recent tradgedy in Ft. Hood and the increased suicide statistics I have to wonder if we are pushing our troops too hard. With high pressure assignments, back to back deployments, extreamly tough standards to keep a career going. Opinions? YES, I am saying end the fighting..I am a pacifist, I have taken a vow of non violence..I am not anti war, I am not anti anything. I am pro-peace! A young man who I have know for many years has been to Iraq and was to be deployed to Afghanistan...he shot himself..he just couldn't do it again. Not everyone is cut out to see, feel, these horrors... Enough is enough..f-ing A...this chit has GOT to stop!! |
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daniel48706
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Very well put Ladylid, I could not have said it better myself!
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: After the recent tradgedy in Ft. Hood and the increased suicide statistics I have to wonder if we are pushing our troops too hard. With high pressure assignments, back to back deployments, extreamly tough standards to keep a career going. Opinions? TO get back on the OP.... I am going to admit to being anti war and anti violence but I think the reality of it is that since we do have soldiers who will have the job of taking the lives of complete strangers in the name of their government/country, perhaps we could screen better the personalities and values of those enlisting instead of just trying to make the numbers. Their personalities change after they have killed another..after combat their personalities are not what they were the day they went and spoke with the recruiter. We can not harm another human without causing harm to ourselves, in some way...because we are truly all one...God's great big family! |
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I am not saying that tthe screening process can not be omrpoved, I am sure it can. But the biggest improvement that woudlhelp themost is increasing the number of soldiers we have active dutiy, so our soldiers do nto see all this war and violence NON STOP FOR YEARS UPON A TIME. You can take the sanest person alive, and make them fight in war for five years straight, and promise you they will not be able to pass the entrence physical for mental health into the military. Our soldiers NEED to have down time, and reasonable amounts of it, not just two weeks here and a month there only to return to the same horrific battle zones.
QUOTE: QUOTE: After the recent tradgedy in Ft. Hood and the increased suicide statistics I have to wonder if we are pushing our troops too hard. With high pressure assignments, back to back deployments, extreamly tough standards to keep a career going. Opinions? TO get back on the OP.... I am going to admit to being anti war and anti violence but I think the reality of it is that since we do have soldiers who will have the job of taking the lives of complete strangers in the name of their government/country, perhaps we could screen better the personalities and values of those enlisting instead of just trying to make the numbers. |
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Very well put Ladylid, this nonsense has got to stop. However I think yu are saying that we need to pull all our troops home, etc correct? I am not saying that, I am saying that we need to start filling our ranks back up again to where they used to be, so that our active duty soldiers do NOT spend more than 6 months at a time deployed, and never two deployments back to back, let alone three, four and five all back to back thus being away from home for over 5 and 6 years.
We need our military, whether people want to believe this or not; otherwise we would not be able to stop other countries from invading us (and yes this means having our military deployed as well). We also need to make sure we have ENOUGH military to ensure that no troop is ever over deployed, like they have been for the past decade almost. QUOTE: QUOTE: After the recent tradgedy in Ft. Hood and the increased suicide statistics I have to wonder if we are pushing our troops too hard. With high pressure assignments, back to back deployments, extreamly tough standards to keep a career going. Opinions? A young man who I have know for many years has been to Iraq and was to be deployed to Afghanistan...he shot himself..he just couldn't do it again. Not everyone is cut out to see, feel, these horrors... Enough is enough..f-ing A...this chit has GOT to stop!! |
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daniel48706
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roflmbo, Ronnie obviously doesn't consider verbal changing of words to be tampering with the records, lol; and technically it isn't tampering with the records, but it IS intentionally giving false statements towards the path of making people believe something that isn't true ;-)
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QUOTE: You think alot Ronny but you don't know. Thats the problem. Somehow your trying to make it real and here it isn't gonna happen. Until you understand how you come across I doubt too many will agree with you. Oh no Daniel your saying exactly how and what I think just better lol lol, I am glad to see I am not the only one Cathey! I am misunderstood, and even disliked by a few, because of the fact that I AM capable of removing myself emotionally from something, most of the time (not always, just ask my ex wife lol), and thus look at ALL sides of it, and DEMAND that others do the same before passing judgement. Even the lady of my heart, who I agree with on most things, argues with me on political issues concerning wether or not certain things should or should not be passed into law because they are or are not christian. As I have told her in the past, ad keep in mind I intend on getting an ordination as a child/teen Pastor and counselor, The United States is not a Christian Country. Period. it is a religious free Country which means the Christian belief can not be taken into any accounting that has to do with govenrment, simply because it is Christian. Doesnt mean it wont happen, but it can ot be the primary reasoning for it to happen either. She refuses to accept this, because of her religious beliefs being as strong as they are, and like many people she sees the United States as being a Christian Country when in fact it is not. |