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msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 33203 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: our government is over five hundred people who are all ELECTED by americans,, time to deal with it as a reflection of AMERICANS And not some outcast 'dictator' group How long has it been since "people" were actually the ones who "decided" who the "nominees" should be for office? The banks, wall street, their media, and small groups of "appointed" elitists select who will run, those selected are then vetted and sold to us by a $$$ sponsored media who cater to the almighty dollar and NOT so much the will of the people. If you think that isn't so, recall the Ron Paul campaigns where he was black-balled by the media, conspired against by the "old guard" of his own party, yet the only one who has for years warned of everything that has happened and is happening in our current events of today. Because he was able to proceed against all odds, the RNC even passed new rules to prevent such a thing happening again! Now "THEY" will choose who the candidates will be! The 2 party system controls the rules, and "the peoples choice" is NOT invited to the game! Some choice....death or torture.... the results are pretty much the same. Baron Von Rothschild said it best.... "Give me the power to print the nations currency and I care not who makes its laws." 'the people' get what they vote for , its their choice there is the option to write in, if the 'people' were ever so terribly disappointed with the dozens of choices they ALREADY Get in the process,,, |
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msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 33203 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: facts because they are found on google,,,,, love that internet,,, So are you implying that the Internet has no facts at all? Where then would you look for facts? A library? What particular library? How old do you think the books in the library are? I just love it when people resort to making fun of the Internet and imply that it is not a reliable source of information. the internet has facts, the way the streets have drugs of course they are there , in all the nonsense and filth,,,,but unfortunately far too many dont know the diff between the former and the latter,,, |
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msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 33203 |
QUOTE: P.S. FYI "google" is simply a SEARCH ENGINE. It is not "the Internet." Its a search engine. totally aware the INTERNET provides us with plenty of search engines,, and plenty of false information/factoids/ opinions posing as facts to go along with them,,, |
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msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 33203 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: I actually READ EO's as opposed to making up my mind on others opiniions
I understand why noone can provide me an ACTUAL EO that conflicts with the constititution or doesnt do precisely what the definition says it does,,, Its called 'legal ease' and good luck understanding it. That's why most congressmen don't even read the lengthy bills they sign and that's why we are in the mess we are in today. yet, its understandable enough to declare that it conflicts with the constitution? interesting,, You don't understand your rights anyway. You have given the state permission to have authority over you in everything you do. You believe them when they say "its for your protection." So I'm talking to a wall here.
alot of ad hominem responses with very little factual or logical debate,,,, guess its become an irrelevant thread,,,, Yep... it has become a waste of time for me because I realize that you are not of the mind to understand even what freedom means. Did you read Conrad's post? Do you understand it? Do you agree on what he and me are talking about when we use the term "freedom" in the political context? if ' not of the mind' means I Require factual proof and not just opinions,, you are right and I totally understand, it show I feel about people arguing the legitimacy of the bible or existence of God guess you know what you know without being able to actually PROVE It,,, just like I do I dont know what posts you are referring to, I let others decide what 'free' means to them I feel plenty 'free',, and much more 'free' than the majority of the world can america improve,, Absolutely,,, do I feel like I am living in a 'dicatatorship' or my 'freedom' is less than at any other time (Except maybe religiously),,,,No in fact, I think america may be becoming so 'free' as to become stupid ,,,,
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wikipedia is one source, but not necessarily the authority as its an anonymously written one,,with no real oversight of its veracity from wikipedia itself: Wikipedia is written collaboratively by largely anonymous Internet volunteers who write without pay. Anyone with Internet access can write and make changes to Wikipedia articles, except in limited cases where editing is restricted to prevent disruption or vandalism. Users can contribute anonymously, under a pseudonym, or, if they choose to, with their real identity |
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msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 33203 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: I actually READ EO's as opposed to making up my mind on others opiniions
I understand why noone can provide me an ACTUAL EO that conflicts with the constititution or doesnt do precisely what the definition says it does,,, Its called 'legal ease' and good luck understanding it. That's why most congressmen don't even read the lengthy bills they sign and that's why we are in the mess we are in today. yet, its understandable enough to declare that it conflicts with the constitution? interesting,, You don't understand your rights anyway. You have given the state permission to have authority over you in everything you do. You believe them when they say "its for your protection." So I'm talking to a wall here.
alot of ad hominem responses with very little factual or logical debate,,,, guess its become an irrelevant thread,,,, |
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msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 33203 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: I actually READ EO's as opposed to making up my mind on others opiniions
I understand why noone can provide me an ACTUAL EO that conflicts with the constititution or doesnt do precisely what the definition says it does,,, Its called 'legal ease' and good luck understanding it. That's why most congressmen don't even read the lengthy bills they sign and that's why we are in the mess we are in today. yet, its understandable enough to declare that it conflicts with the constitution? interesting,, You don't understand your rights anyway. You have given the state permission to have authority over you in everything you do. You believe them when they say "its for your protection." So I'm talking to a wall here.
alot of ad hominem responses with very little factual or logical debate,,,, guess its become an irrelevant thread,,,, |
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facts because they are found on google,,,,,
love that internet,,, |
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Pearls,,,,
Sometimes Satan sets people in our paths in order to destroy us because he knows that we will sacrifice the things we should be doing in order to minister to the "needy" and "weak" one. We must be discerning enough to know when to say when and how to concretely place limits upon people. Swine don’t deserve pearls of wisdom because all they will do with the wise counsel is roll around with it in the mud.
We should always pray for people, and there is never a reason to give up hope. However, there is a time to let a person be and let God deal with them alone. There are many true seekers who need our help, so we need to beware of the impostors, the swine who at first don’t seem to be so. We must learn discernment and who is truly humble, teachable, and willing to learn and change. Why is this so important? Because the swine do more than just ruin pearls; their purpose is to ruin us. The swine to whom we keep giving our precious pearls of energy, time, wisdom, and sacrifice are not really interested in the pearls as they profess to be but in, as Jesus says, turning and tearing us to pieces. They were never interested in the truth or in turning from sin but rather in destroying us and feasting upon us. As we function in the church long enough, we will encounter these people. We must be careful and watch out for the swine because our very spiritual, physical, emotional, and financial well-beings are at stake. Lord, you have sent us out as sheep among wolves. Please enable us to have discernment to know where the ground is fertile and where to sow our seeds. Help us to be shrewd as serpents yet innocent as doves (Matthew 10:16). Protect us, preserve us, and lead us in all wisdom, power, and strength to bear abundant fruit for Your kingdom. In Christ’s name, Amen. |
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msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 33203 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: I actually READ EO's as opposed to making up my mind on others opiniions
I understand why noone can provide me an ACTUAL EO that conflicts with the constititution or doesnt do precisely what the definition says it does,,, Its called 'legal ease' and good luck understanding it. That's why most congressmen don't even read the lengthy bills they sign and that's why we are in the mess we are in today. yet, its understandable enough to declare that it conflicts with the constitution? interesting,, |
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QUOTE: QUOTE: its why I have a 'drivers' license and not a 'traveling' license and a way to identify that we are of the legal age (certainly driving is not a universal RIGHT which should be withheld until the age of 18 or which should be granted to grade schoolers,,lol) and have the proper knowledge of operating the vehicle (Certainly wouldnt want bus drivers using their RIGHT to drive to transport my kids if they dont know how to drive) So you are saying people have no common sense and the gov't MUST dictate, award and control our rights as they see fit....not our constitution or our creator? Then why do we vote? Sounds like a dictatorship to me.... not the Republic we were awarded by the blood of our patriots constitution was WRITTEN BY THE GOVERNMENT,,lol it relates to FEDERAL LAWS< and whats not SPECIFICALLY there is up to the states and common sense has NOTHING to do with operating a motor vehicle,,, we vote in the people we want, and if they dont do what we want than we gripe and complain about 'freedoms',,,,,because of course, there is going to be a decision one day that will please all 300 million americans and what they feel they should be 'free' to do,,,
if it was a dictatorship, why would there be 'promises' broken? our government is over five hundred people who are all ELECTED by americans,, time to deal with it as a reflection of AMERICANS And not some outcast 'dictator' group |
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QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: Executive orders are official documents, numbered consecutively, through which the President of the United States manages the operations of the Federal Government That is not all they are. Executive Orders are controversial because they allow the President to make major decisions, even law, without the consent of Congress. This, of course, runs against the general logic of the Constitution -- that no one should have power to act unilaterally. what are the sources of these explanations? and can I Get an example of an ACTUAL EO That conflicts with the constititution? Your naive opinions would not see the truth of it anyway. You will choose to believe in what you want. Do your own research. Use Google. Try to prove yourself mistaken, and you will find information. You may not want it or agree with it, but if you don't look for it, you will stay where you are, asking other people to prove something to you that you are not willing to accept. I don't want to upset your reality. Look for the truth yourself. I wasnt making the claim about EOs,,, I did research, by looking on the ACTUAL WHITE HOUSE WEBSITE for the explanation of an EO...... not providing coop commentaries from individuals about what they THINK it is I actually READ EO's as opposed to making up my mind on others opiniions I understand why noone can provide me an ACTUAL EO that conflicts with the constititution or doesnt do precisely what the definition says it does,,,
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QUOTE: QUOTE: 'free' is a cliche life is not 'free' it comes with consequence and responsibility 'free' only means there can be no outside obstruction to that BASIC action or a complete BAN or restriction on that action,, I can travel without a license, by traveling with someone who HAS one,,,so my right to travel is not impeded when I am asked to have a license TO OPERATE a vehicle,,, and how does the 'creator' endow a right to a man made feature?,,,,'' perhaps some dont know what 'endowed by their creator' means,,,, QUOTE: life is not 'free' it comes with consequence and responsibility
Freedom to live is a natural right. Having responsibility or experiencing consequences of your actions has nothing at all to do with it. I created (manifested) myself, and I claim natural freedom to live. No one has the right to take my life from me. That is what freedom means. The freedom to live without being at the mercy of some master who has the right to take your life when ever he pleases. That is called slavery. I am free. I agree, life would be one 'freedom' we are endowed with and if thats THE definition of 'free' to you,, than we are free the conditions of how we live amongst others though, is not God endowed, but constructed by the environment and society we live in,,, |
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msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 33203 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: Executive orders are official documents, numbered consecutively, through which the President of the United States manages the operations of the Federal Government That is not all they are. Executive Orders are controversial because they allow the President to make major decisions, even law, without the consent of Congress. This, of course, runs against the general logic of the Constitution -- that no one should have power to act unilaterally. what are the sources of these explanations? and can I Get an example of an ACTUAL EO That conflicts with the constititution? |
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Executive orders are official documents, numbered consecutively, through which the President of the United States manages the operations of the Federal Government
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QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: 1. President is the HEAD OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH,, Executive orders have to do with determining the policies within the branch HE IS HEAD OF,,,,,its not a conspiracy, nor does it destroy the constitution 2. I still have NO example of an ACTUAL EO that 'destroys' the constitution,,,but I wasnt really expecting one,,, The constitution has already been destroyed in the corporate courts. Just try to bring up any issue in a court of law that mentions your "constitutional rights being violated" and they will laugh you out of the courtroom. The Patriot act violates (destroys) the constitution. Executive orders are not laws. no kidding they arent laws,, they are EXECUTIVE policies from the EXECUTIVE HEAD Then they are meaningless. THEY ARE NOT LAWS. so why are people complaining about them? |
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msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 33203 |
QUOTE: "any such thing as too many kids?" Why don't you ask the old woman who lived in a shoe.
lol,, she obviously didnt have the time, energy, resources or SPACE....
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msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 33203 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: 1. President is the HEAD OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH,, Executive orders have to do with determining the policies within the branch HE IS HEAD OF,,,,,its not a conspiracy, nor does it destroy the constitution 2. I still have NO example of an ACTUAL EO that 'destroys' the constitution,,,but I wasnt really expecting one,,, The constitution has already been destroyed in the corporate courts. Just try to bring up any issue in a court of law that mentions your "constitutional rights being violated" and they will laugh you out of the courtroom. The Patriot act violates (destroys) the constitution. Executive orders are not laws. no kidding they arent laws,, they are EXECUTIVE policies from the EXECUTIVE HEAD |
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QUOTE: Obama Supports DNA Sampling Upon Arrest http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/obama-supports-dna-sampling-upon-arrest/ Obama is collecting your DNA at police checkpoints http://esposamuyinfiel.blogspot.com/2013/06/obama-is-collecting-your-dna-at-police.html The Daily Caller reports that Americans driving on public streets are being herded like sheep by the police into official "checkpoints" (show us your papers!). While surrounded by armed officers in uniforms and bullet proof vests the motorist is asked if they want to give a "voluntary" DNA sample to Comrade Obama's National Highway Safety Administration. And just who will be storing your DNA? Who will have access to it? Keep in mind this program has bipartisan funding from Congress. Welcome to the American Police State. Off-duty cops in two counties in Alabama spent the weekend collecting saliva and blood samples from drivers at roadblocks. wow,, ok,,, 1st, presidents dont set STATE laws,, a statement of supporting state laws is not the same as SETTING Them,,,,,I support it too,, DNA Has been proven to exhonnerate people and is a useful tool when those who have previous ARRESTS become suspects,,,, 2nd The DNA collection is VOLUNTARY, with no id tag, and also a STATE program to study driving habits , its explained here in another thread,, ALSO NOTHING TO DO WITH OBAMA |
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1. President is the HEAD OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH,, Executive orders have to do with determining the policies within the branch HE IS HEAD OF,,,,,its not a conspiracy, nor does it destroy the constitution
2. I still have NO example of an ACTUAL EO that 'destroys' the constitution,,,but I wasnt really expecting one,,, |