1 Corinthians 11:15
15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.

Again, they are not to cut their hair because it is glory to them.

And secondly what are you talking about would not be praying but remaining silent?

The two have nothing to do with one another. Remaining silent as in not talking among themselves and paying attention to the preacher, just as the men are to do. "Remaining silent" has nothing to do with praying or not praying. When one prays they do not "speak" they pray.

And the reasons they should not shave their head is cause of the following.

1 Corinthians 11:15
15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.

Because it is glory to her.

The ONLY place(s) in the new testament that even mention their heads being covered is the following.

1 Corinthians 11:6
6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.

And it is speaking of her hair. For her not to shave her head.

Ok, now give that verse(s) in the new testament that says women should have their heads covered while praying.

Only in your mind Funches.



How so? Give a verse from the new testament that says women should have their head covered or anything along those lines.



Yes, that's what I "thought" to have been the reason. But I don't live on assumptions, so I looked into it further and found that in their culture at that time, it was not permitted for a woman to speak in public.



Incorrect.

The bible is a collection of epistles, letters written to someone(s) for some reason or other for a specific reason. Again, when these epistles or "books" were written originally, the writer did not specifically intend for them to be all gathered together in one book. Again, most to all the different authors/people of and in the different books didn't even know one another, didn't even know the other even existed.

And no, following the scriptures isn't about following the culture they had or assimilating. It's about learning the ways God wishes for us to be. That is why I have once again specifically said and brought to the attention of women having their heads covered was NOT a law from God. It was in THEIR culture.

Was said to both men and women and doesn't explicitly say "men go preach to the world".


Mark 16:15
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Tell me what post number it was that I said women should not teach. Cause if I did in fact say ANYTHING in those exact words I stand corrected in my mistake. Because I have explicitly even given the example of some Pentecostals have female preachers.

And I further explained that verse(s) of women remaining silent in church. Everyone should remain silent during service. And it says for the woman to ask the husband at home if she has any questions, because in their CULTURE it was not permitted for women to speak in public again is why they had to have their heads covered while praying.

I did not explicitly say they should not, in exact specifics.

But it is fact, that women are generally more tender and submissive then men. ESPECIALLY in this time frame of mankind in question when these scriptures were written down.

Women were not always as outspoken as they are now. Nothing to do with any "sexist". Just that is how it is. Women only very recently have become more and more outspoken for themselves. But you know as well as I do, that is not the way it has always been. REGARDLESS of the reason of why it hasn't always been, fact still remains the same.

Ps. Quit editing the posts one makes. If you wish to only respond to a specific part, quote it, leaving the remaining post in there.

I said EVERYONE but the preacher should remain silent. Then went even further in explaining that with giving an example of the Pentecostals having women preachers.



Please show where I explicitly said "They should NOT". If they are called to preach, so be it. And again, even in context of that verse. It says EVERYONE should remain silent during service, even the men. And again it says if the woman has questions to wait till they are home and ask their husbands, because again in THAT culture at that time it was not permitted for women to speak in public. Thus also where having their heads covered while praying came into effect.

How is that sexist? I never said a woman can't do something, nor did I say women were of a lower level then men, or anything along those lines.

Please come back when you learn how to discuss rather then trying to belittle people's beliefs and make the one discussing with you look stupid.

The "scriptures" were not written intending to be in one book. Heck, the authors of each book didn't even know each other. Some where hundreds of years apart from one another even just being in existence.

The bible only includes the books, the one's that put the bible together thought needed to be included. There are many upon many scriptures that are not even included in the bible itself.

It's about reading what is given, taking it to prayer, and allowing God to guide the rest.

No, not necassarily. But you do realize in that culture, women were not to even speak in public? No specifically a law from God himself, just in the culture itself. And when a woman prayed, they covered their head to take them out of being in public so to speak.

You also do realize, all the scriptures in the bible, were not originally intended to be all in one book we now call the Holy bible?

These different "books" or "epistles" were written to a specific group of people for a specific reason. And again keeping the conversation in context and on track, it was not even permitted for women in this culture to speak in public. Thus why it says if they have any questions, to ask the husband at home.

And also again, these aren't specifically laws from God. Just was how the culture was.

Now please do give a verse(s) that is specifically knowledge from God on this matter, if you wish to continue to think this.

Yes he was giving a specific command to a specific group of people for whatever reason it may have been. I refuse nothing lol. I follow what we are told and not told. Paul was addressing a specific group of people. Again, the bible is made of different epistles to specific groups of people for specific reasons.

I totally agree. And keeping it in context of the more original discussion. Women were never and are never "property" in the Christian faith. The man has a lot of obligations to the woman through marriage. Weather he does it or not is irrelevant, has no bearing on the belief in itself. He was to love her and cherish her even more then himself. That is not "property" That is not "controlling" that is love and compassion.

No not specifically talking about "todays" society. Heck, today's society isn't the same it was even 100 years ago and so on. I'm talking about the original purpose of marriage in or out of any affiliations with "religion".

And you have to also keep in mind, women weren't' always as independent as they are now. It's only been fairly recently women have become indipendent, fairly recently in the comparison to the world.

The Jews may as well. But the 7th day adventists do as well. They see Jesus as a "prophet" and not the promissed messiah. I have a 7th day adventist friend.

Aye, you're looking at it from the point of religion purely. It's not totally about "religion".

When two are married, the woman leaves her family eg., her maiden name. And joins with the husbands family and thus why the woman changes her last name.

It is also kept there for say the 7th Day Adventists. I have absolutely no idea why they believe the way they believe. But they do not believe Jesus to be the prophesied Son of God. They still follow the old testament/old covenant because they do not feel it's been fulfilled. They are still waiting for that promised messiah, which again they do not see Jesus as having been.

And again that is the churches problem/fault. If they do no agree with his "teachings" why did they ordain him to be a preacher there? Preachers aren't suppose to preach their understanding of the scriptures, they are to deliver a message from God. If they do that or not is totally and entirely between them and God. If they have allowed Satan to deceive them so much they are spreading a false gospel, again that is totally between them and God.

The old testament is kept in the bibles for history. And better understand of the new testament, to understand the how's and why's of what has been done.

And what do you mean there would be no connection between Jesus and the God of Abraham? Who do you think the God of Abraham is? Who do you think created this world? Who do you think created even man and woman. Jesus did. Jesus is the LORD God.