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Well what it is worth, I hope that a stabile global economy will occur with everlasting peace. That would be nice to have, although I do feel anxiety for those people who really are not treated fairly with their wages and humanitarian rights. I also doubt things will get alot better since the world population is rising at alarming rates in alot of countries.

Anyway, good luck on your debates no matter which direction you swing.

This makes alot of sense. I mean alot of the big businesses have their headquarters outside of the United States making them excempt on paying taxes.

I can clearly see how the government wants more people in their country working to get more taxes into the system, yet how will they do that if no businesses will be attained in the country. I mean the corporations will have to build more businesses here in the states for the people to work to pay taxes. As it looks like so far they rather put their manufacturys in China, India, etc. etc.

Perhaps foreign investors will step up since the dollar has become a bit weak.

We shall see what happens.

Actually it is the international banks, WTO, and Fed Banks that lend money to those countries with high interest rates that prevents the country from ever getting out of debt.

Now since they knew that the countries cannot get out of debt they will then use other alternatives to get their money back like installing these corporations into the country and putting in slave labor work raping its resources to get the goods we want over here.

Yes I am surprised that these countries don't fight for their rights. That they don't have a revolution in say no! Perhaps it is too late and besides alot are tired and weak from the lifestyle they are having.

I am just not a big supporter of mega corporations and these international banks, WTO, Fed Banks. I think this is going to ruin the world one day. I really hope I am wrong, because it just doesn't look good for alot of these countries. Maybe America will pull it through. I mean they have went through alot of hard times before, but with such a split society with such huge difference of opinions across the country, I wonder if it will always be a stalemate or the same story year after year after year when it comes to important subjects.

What I am saying is yes Americans should really think about the future of their country and stop acting like everything is going to be okay. Many believe that they will recover and things will go good again. It surely isn't what alot of economists are saying you know. They are saying this is just the tip of the mountain. Harder times are coming.

Can the 12 trillion dollar deficit be paid off? Will it continue to rise?

How much more can you afford to have 500 bases across the world?

How long can you continue to fight the wars in the Middle East?

How long will the corporations determine on what is best for the country when it really is all about profits and not the welfare of the people?

These are good questions with alot of various answers. In the end I am just opening dialogue for you guys to think about.

I see this is going no where and it doesn't make sense to continue. In the end just remember that my fairy tale world that you so heavenly describe should be reevaluated 15 years from now. You will then start to understand what is really going to happen if Americans continue to go this route and perhaps say, yes he is right about this. I don't wish any ill will on Americans, I am just making aware of what is happening to your country.

I hope for your sake and many others that good decisions will be made. If not then the unemployment rate will continue to rise and illegal immigration will continue to rise also with it, because corporations will want them for cheap labor. With ID and fake documents coyotes create.

Good luck on your opinions and strategy of what you think is right for this country.

Wow you guys really need to get out of your country more and see what is really going outside of it. No wonder you guys are not liked that much by alot of countries. Always watching the news channels, researching on the internet and then claim to know how it is like over there without even stepping foot onto its land. I call that the Roman Empire syndrome. It surely has gotten hold of you good!

Those countries that pay poor prices for their workers truly are suffering with very little. You can find excuses all day long that they have decent wages and a good life, but it is simply not true. This is the reason why they want to come to America, because even 40 dollars is a fortune of money for a days work. They even get a chance to rest after working 10 hours over here. Ask them how much sleep they get over there!

Yes the rent and food is cheaper over there but in comparison they can only afford some rice and salty fish for that day. Many have to cram up in one place just to pay the rent. Their children are actually starving and need medical attention. Many of them are not living as well as you think they are.

And yes some parts of each country have the wealthy who exclude themselves from the rest of the country and its poverty. I am not talking about them, I am talking about the majority of the population that are trying to really make it through each day. Each day is a challenge and it is a big one.

Fair prices, fair business ethics, fair humane rights??? Yeah right. You guys really need to travel more and see for yourself.

I have been to alot of those countries that you guys are talking about and have seen it first hand through the profession I practiced. I have communicated with them and everyone one of them would rather live in this country then where they are now and for good reason. Are they thankful to have a job, of course, but that doesn't mean they are happy. They are not allowed to complain at their job or they will not only get beaten, but also fired at the same time. When interviewed they have to hide their faces if they are to tell the truth of how it is like over there for they don't want to lose their job or get searched down and beaten.

Corporations are fierce over there and they will do whatever it takes to ensure that their stay is profitable. They care less of the conditions of the people. As long as they get their merchandise completed and shipped over here for the cheapest prices. Have you looked at the percentage of win they make when selling it over here?

Yes China is advancing rather quickly compared to alot of countries, but that doesn't exclude alot of the regions that are suffering from poverty at the same time.

So in the end it is not relative. There is a complete difference of life style that you Americans take for granted. They don't have the opportunity to own internet, radio, television, clean appliances, etc. Yes they have those things there, but many can't buy or go to them because they simply don't have the money to do so. They are living day by day.

China is the exception in many parts now for they are an economic boom house for the last 10 years. Every huge corporation is tending business over there.

America played a huge risk when getting involved in these countries. As soon as their labor stops what will you Americans then do when you don't get your gap tshirts, furniture, plastic toys, nike shoes, tires for the car, candles, weights, etc. etc.

Will you work for very low prices each day? Do you think Corporations want to pay the prices you ask for each hour when they can get cheaper labor else where? Labor Unions? Don't bet on it. If a corporation doesn't comply they won't and go else where if have to. Have you thought about this?

Concerning Americans working those jobs for low wages over here in the states? I haven't seen many Americans doing them. Show me some Americans doing construction work, picking vegetables at a farm, seperating organs from cows. The majority doing these jobs are foreigners because they will do it for a low price that Americans find utterly ridiculous to consider. The minimum wage that Congress has set is the lowest an American will go. Anything below that you will only find illegal immigrants doing without complaining.

Wow with this mentality it won't be long before you see some dramatic changes in this country that will surprise you. You can blame the democrats or the republicans, but they won't care. Each and everyone one of them made their money and have bought their mansion including having a fat savings for their retirement.

The question is... will you have achieved this for yourself or will you continue to slave your hard hours to help Congress and its cabinet members achieve their pension and mansion?

Wake up! You are getting raped left and right without even knowing it. Keep supporting and voting the same way. Soon you will see how you get the run arounds all the time realizing that nothing has been achieved to your satisfaction.

It is time for a new party, a new beginning, and a new system that can truly work for the people. Not just some people, but everyone. A third party in America! Yeah, I have a hard time believing this will happen, yet who knows maybe after Americans had enough of the run arounds they might find those parties you never hear of quiet appealing.

Good luck if you think otherwise. I do hope that the mentality of America will change. Not only for the children, but for future generations after that.

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The “mechanical” application of logic – famously championed by the half-Vulcan Mr. Spock from the television series Star Trek – appears alien to some, to others a sign of distinctively human rationality.




Even Spock was known to be wrong at times. Good old Captain Kirk has shown it in a few episodes.

Why are the pretty ones always having health problems

I wish you health and happiness

I remember talking about this on a thread and believe it could be very possible we had a sixth sense at one time a very long time ago for survival purposes.

Thank you for taking the time to reply to the questions. They sound great

Anymore takers to keep this thread alive?

I love coffee, but I realize it isn't that good for you and have found tea to be great also.

I try to drink coffee only on weekends now and tea throughout the week.

In Scotland they put cream in their tea. That is something I do occassionally also now.

Concerning jobs overseas that corporations set up.

I also know that the stores such as Gap, Nike, and other big corporations in were you can wear that shirt you are probably wearing are created by the poorest countries that have no law of how long a worker needs to work. They go by delivery. If the US wants a million gap shirts in two weeks then the staff has to work 36 hours straight before getting actual time off for a few hours under no air conditioning, no breaks, no complaints and for less then a dollar a day. Since the demand is high in Europe and America the long hours is persistent all year round.

And yes it is 36 hours at a time. This is no exaggeration.

Those who work in those conditions just earn enough to buy sticky rice and some old salty fish for their family. They have no health care and if so they can't afford it and their basic neccesseties are beyond hygiene and acceptable.

Yet we don't care because we have nice boot boots or a nice pink shirt for our children.

So yes, most Americans as of Europeans don't care and turn their heads and those who do care are usually silenced quickly or ousted out of the media quickly.

I do so happen to know the pay wage they get. For example just outside of Miami illegal immigrants, which are Argentinians, Nicargua, Hondurus, and Mexicans earn 40 dollars the whole day picking oranges.

They start at 8 am all the way until 6 pm in the hot sun.

I don't see any Americans doing that for a living.

If you want to see a good documentary that isn't demorcratic or republican but just tells it how it is then watch "Fast Food Nation".

There you will get more examples of how illegals get jobs through the help of coyotes supported silently by corporations and what kind of money they make.

Construction is at 70 dollars for many of them. They work very long hours over here past 12 hours with breaks.

So yes I am aware of the workforce without checking the internet or watching the corporate news in which I never do anyway. The majority who do these jobs are also latinos.

And yes they get no benefits whatsoever, which is lucrative for corporations, but inhumane for most people who think about it.

Well I guess there is only one way to find out right. I hope for your case that you are right that Americans will get up and start doing those jobs for the prices asked for.

Those jobs will be done for the lowest wages. Will Americans do it?

Yes and that is why Americans sit home and let those immigrants do the work for a low price. The corporations are satisfied.

If they are forced to raise the wages, provide healthcare, pay taxes, and other costs they will go to China or India to where they don't have to do this or at least not too much.

Americans can go on the streets right now and protest. What will happen? Perhaps the government will enforce corporations to pay fair wages to sustain here in the country, but will the corporations comply? I don't think they will go against the governments will if they had to, but they will find a way to bring their business else where as you are seeing at the moment.

So now what do you do? What would be a better alternative?

You have either the choice to work for lower wages to make somekind of money or you have the corporations leave the country and the Americans would have to rebuild small or medium size businesses like we knew them in the 50s. I figure this won't happen either.

As long as other countries are willing to work for very low prices corporations will take advantage of it.