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adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Thu 05/01/08 06:14 PM Edited by adj4u on Thu 05/01/08 06:15 PM
rob i am a bit surprised by your attitude you are usually so sensible but it is your thread and opening post yet it appears you have not even read it try reading the first sentence again he should be on the chain gang just as much as anyone posting on this site

Single_Rob Joined Mon 02/04/08 Posts: 8233	Thu 05/01/08 06:19 PM
rob i am a bit surprised by your attitude you are usually so sensible but it is your thread and opening post yet it appears you have not even read it try reading the first sentence again he should be on the chain gang just as much as anyone posting on this site any person who cannot make bail and is in jail awaiting sentencing should have to repay the cost of his/her incarceration. I do not care if it is monetary amounts, or service to the community. It is infact my post, and I was using a broad brush with some of my responses, but I think they are all aplicable to both prison, and county lockup. i am sorry if you disagree, it is just my feeling on the subject

awolf1010 Joined Sun 03/30/08 Posts: 7251	Thu 05/01/08 06:23 PM
rob i am a bit surprised by your attitude you are usually so sensible but it is your thread and opening post yet it appears you have not even read it try reading the first sentence again he should be on the chain gang just as much as anyone posting on this site hmmm....its people like you that make me wonder why???? why do you have the possesions that you OWN....why do you feel SAFE at night in your bed....why are YOU not sold into slavery..or prostitution...why are you even able to EXPRESS your thoughts on this sight........

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Thu 05/01/08 06:23 PM
rob i am a bit surprised by your attitude you are usually so sensible but it is your thread and opening post yet it appears you have not even read it try reading the first sentence again he should be on the chain gang just as much as anyone posting on this site any person who cannot make bail and is in jail awaiting sentencing should have to repay the cost of his/her incarceration. I do not care if it is monetary amounts, or service to the community. It is infact my post, and I was using a broad brush with some of my responses, but I think they are all aplicable to both prison, and county lockup. i am sorry if you disagree, it is just my feeling on the subject and if he is found not guilty what should happen and what ever happened to the unreasonable bail line in the constitution and innocent till proven guilty so the rich (in your opinion) should have a differnt set of rule and the broke should suffer sorry rob but as you are entitled to your opinion the laddle has just shortened a few rungs

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Thu 05/01/08 06:26 PM Edited by adj4u on Thu 05/01/08 06:26 PM
rob i am a bit surprised by your attitude you are usually so sensible but it is your thread and opening post yet it appears you have not even read it try reading the first sentence again he should be on the chain gang just as much as anyone posting on this site hmmm....its people like you that make me wonder why???? why do you have the possesions that you OWN....why do you feel SAFE at night in your bed....why are YOU not sold into slavery..or prostitution...why are you even able to EXPRESS your thoughts on this sight........ so you think that even tho someone has not been convicted of a crime they should have to suffer the punishment as if they have already been found guilty of the crime it is people like you that is eroding the constitution away to the point that it is becoming toilet paper

Single_Rob Joined Mon 02/04/08 Posts: 8233	Thu 05/01/08 06:28 PM
rob i am a bit surprised by your attitude you are usually so sensible but it is your thread and opening post yet it appears you have not even read it try reading the first sentence again he should be on the chain gang just as much as anyone posting on this site any person who cannot make bail and is in jail awaiting sentencing should have to repay the cost of his/her incarceration. I do not care if it is monetary amounts, or service to the community. It is infact my post, and I was using a broad brush with some of my responses, but I think they are all aplicable to both prison, and county lockup. i am sorry if you disagree, it is just my feeling on the subject and if he is found not guilty what should happen and what ever happened to the unreasonable bail line in the constitution and innocent till proven guilty so the rich (in your opinion) should have a differnt set of rule and the broke should suffer sorry rob but as you are entitled to your opinion the laddle has just shortened a few rungs well I am sorry you feel that way. I am in no way saying that the rich have a different set of rules. I am saying that if a person is jailed, and cannot make bail there is nothing wrong with making them pay their own way. The citizens are not responsible for making bail for a person accused of a crime, nor should they ever be. Likewise they should not be responsible for paying for their upkeep while they are tried. Rich or poor makes no difference, most only require a 10% bail to get out anyway. Unreasonable bail? If there is overwhelming evidence presented to a judge after indictment you are damn right they should have a high bail. Do you recommend allowing a person to pay 50.00 to bail themselves out if they are accused of a heinous crime in which there is overwhelming evidence against them? I do not get your point. If you think that then I am glad I slipped a few rungs in your opinion

awolf1010 Joined Sun 03/30/08 Posts: 7251	Thu 05/01/08 06:30 PM
rob i am a bit surprised by your attitude you are usually so sensible but it is your thread and opening post yet it appears you have not even read it try reading the first sentence again he should be on the chain gang just as much as anyone posting on this site hmmm....its people like you that make me wonder why???? why do you have the possesions that you OWN....why do you feel SAFE at night in your bed....why are YOU not sold into slavery..or prostitution...why are you even able to EXPRESS your thoughts on this sight........ so you think that even tho someone has not been convicted of a crime they should have to suffer the punishment as if they have already been found guilty of the crime it is people like you that is eroding the constitution away to the point that it is becoming toilet paper

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Thu 05/01/08 06:30 PM
rob i am a bit surprised by your attitude you are usually so sensible but it is your thread and opening post yet it appears you have not even read it try reading the first sentence again he should be on the chain gang just as much as anyone posting on this site any person who cannot make bail and is in jail awaiting sentencing should have to repay the cost of his/her incarceration. I do not care if it is monetary amounts, or service to the community. It is infact my post, and I was using a broad brush with some of my responses, but I think they are all aplicable to both prison, and county lockup. i am sorry if you disagree, it is just my feeling on the subject and if he is found not guilty what should happen and what ever happened to the unreasonable bail line in the constitution and innocent till proven guilty so the rich (in your opinion) should have a differnt set of rule and the broke should suffer sorry rob but as you are entitled to your opinion the laddle has just shortened a few rungs well I am sorry you feel that way. I am in no way saying that the rich have a different set of rules. I am saying that if a person is jailed, and cannot make bail there is nothing wrong with making them pay their own way. The citizens are not responsible for making bail for a person accused of a crime, nor should they ever be. Likewise they should not be responsible for paying for their upkeep while they are tried. Rich or poor makes no difference, most only require a 10% bail to get out anyway. Unreasonable bail? If there is overwhelming evidence presented to a judge after indictment you are damn right they should have a high bail. Do you recommend allowing a person to pay 50.00 to bail themselves out if they are accused of a heinous crime in which there is overwhelming evidence against them? I do not get your point. If you think that then I am glad I slipped a few rungs in your opinion if the person makes 200$ a week 500$ bail is the same as a multimillionaire getting a million dollar bail bail should be set by the assets of the accused if it is not it is excessive

Single_Rob Joined Mon 02/04/08 Posts: 8233	Thu 05/01/08 06:32 PM
rob i am a bit surprised by your attitude you are usually so sensible but it is your thread and opening post yet it appears you have not even read it try reading the first sentence again he should be on the chain gang just as much as anyone posting on this site any person who cannot make bail and is in jail awaiting sentencing should have to repay the cost of his/her incarceration. I do not care if it is monetary amounts, or service to the community. It is infact my post, and I was using a broad brush with some of my responses, but I think they are all aplicable to both prison, and county lockup. i am sorry if you disagree, it is just my feeling on the subject and if he is found not guilty what should happen and what ever happened to the unreasonable bail line in the constitution and innocent till proven guilty so the rich (in your opinion) should have a differnt set of rule and the broke should suffer sorry rob but as you are entitled to your opinion the laddle has just shortened a few rungs well I am sorry you feel that way. I am in no way saying that the rich have a different set of rules. I am saying that if a person is jailed, and cannot make bail there is nothing wrong with making them pay their own way. The citizens are not responsible for making bail for a person accused of a crime, nor should they ever be. Likewise they should not be responsible for paying for their upkeep while they are tried. Rich or poor makes no difference, most only require a 10% bail to get out anyway. Unreasonable bail? If there is overwhelming evidence presented to a judge after indictment you are damn right they should have a high bail. Do you recommend allowing a person to pay 50.00 to bail themselves out if they are accused of a heinous crime in which there is overwhelming evidence against them? I do not get your point. If you think that then I am glad I slipped a few rungs in your opinion if the person makes 200$ a week 500$ bail is the same as a multimillionaire getting a million dollar bail bail should be set by the assets of the accused if it is not it is excessive Now you are starting to sound like you have drifted into liberal la-la land Ad. It is NOT the community that is responsible for how much an individual makes, and considering the seriousness of the charges against them bail should be set high enough that if they do manage to make it, they stand a lot to lose if they just leave

awolf1010 Joined Sun 03/30/08 Posts: 7251	Thu 05/01/08 06:34 PM
rob i am a bit surprised by your attitude you are usually so sensible but it is your thread and opening post yet it appears you have not even read it try reading the first sentence again he should be on the chain gang just as much as anyone posting on this site hmmm....its people like you that make me wonder why???? why do you have the possesions that you OWN....why do you feel SAFE at night in your bed....why are YOU not sold into slavery..or prostitution...why are you even able to EXPRESS your thoughts on this sight........ so you think that even tho someone has not been convicted of a crime they should have to suffer the punishment as if they have already been found guilty of the crime it is people like you that is eroding the constitution away to the point that it is becoming toilet paper I may not agree with what you say ....but I have defended your right to say it.....if our constitution is so bad.....GET THE H3LL OUT...I will personally help you pack....there your done go......try living a week in some of the countries I have been stationed years in....

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Thu 05/01/08 06:34 PM
i did not right the constitution and they said it not me so if you were accused of murder your bail should be 10 million dollars

Single_Rob Joined Mon 02/04/08 Posts: 8233	Thu 05/01/08 06:36 PM
i did not right the constitution and they said it not me so if you were accused of murder your bail should be 10 million dollars I am saying some crimes should demand that no bail be set. If I murdered and raped a child I would deserve no bail, you are darned right

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Thu 05/01/08 06:38 PM
rob i am a bit surprised by your attitude you are usually so sensible but it is your thread and opening post yet it appears you have not even read it try reading the first sentence again he should be on the chain gang just as much as anyone posting on this site hmmm....its people like you that make me wonder why???? why do you have the possesions that you OWN....why do you feel SAFE at night in your bed....why are YOU not sold into slavery..or prostitution...why are you even able to EXPRESS your thoughts on this sight........ so you think that even tho someone has not been convicted of a crime they should have to suffer the punishment as if they have already been found guilty of the crime it is people like you that is eroding the constitution away to the point that it is becoming toilet paper I may not agree with what you say ....but I have defended your right to say it.....if our constitution is so bad.....GET THE H3LL OUT...I will personally help you pack....there your done go......try living a week in some of the countries I have been stationed years in.... maybe you should read your post that i responded to yer punishing someone who has not been convicted of a crime (thus taking away their constitutional rights) i never said i did not like the constitution i said attitudes like you displayed is what is eroding it

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Thu 05/01/08 06:39 PM
i did not right the constitution and they said it not me so if you were accused of murder your bail should be 10 million dollars I am saying some crimes should demand that no bail be set. If I murdered and raped a child I would deserve no bail, you are darned right whether i agree or not is irrelevant and what you or i think is irrelevant the constitution say excessive bail is wrong

awolf1010 Joined Sun 03/30/08 Posts: 7251	Thu 05/01/08 06:41 PM
i did not right the constitution and they said it not me so if you were accused of murder your bail should be 10 million dollars no YOU didnt write it ....but you enjoy the liberties it provides you...every single day...criminals...loose that right.

daniel48706 Joined Fri 03/16/07 Posts: 8566	Thu 05/01/08 06:41 PM
rob i am a bit surprised by your attitude you are usually so sensible but it is your thread and opening post yet it appears you have not even read it try reading the first sentence again he should be on the chain gang just as much as anyone posting on this site any person who cannot make bail and is in jail awaiting sentencing should have to repay the cost of his/her incarceration. I do not care if it is monetary amounts, or service to the community. It is infact my post, and I was using a broad brush with some of my responses, but I think they are all aplicable to both prison, and county lockup. i am sorry if you disagree, it is just my feeling on the subject you say someoen awaiting sentencing shuld have too repay. I agree with you. HOWEVER, this guy has not even been found guilty, so how can he be facing sentencing?

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Thu 05/01/08 06:42 PM
Amendment VIII Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

daniel48706 Joined Fri 03/16/07 Posts: 8566	Thu 05/01/08 06:47 PM
Amendment VIII Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted. The problem, is, who is the defining authority on what constitutes excessiveness, or cruel and unusual? It sure is not you or I, sadly to say.

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Thu 05/01/08 06:50 PM
Amendment VIII Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted. The problem, is, who is the defining authority on what constitutes excessiveness, or cruel and unusual? It sure is not you or I, sadly to say. if it is unaffordable it is excessive and if it is excessive it is cruel and unusual punishment for someone not convicted of anything

Single_Rob Joined Mon 02/04/08 Posts: 8233	Thu 05/01/08 06:50 PM
The 8th Amendment stipulates that bail shall not be excessive. This does not say there is a constitutional right to bail, it only prohibits excessive bail, if it is to be granted.