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Yes. It's like going out in the middle of the lake to save them when they are drowning. If you try to save them they can take you down with them. Have to stick to your beliefs, your faith. Must be careful. Good advice and well noted. |
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no, but i have been the one doing so, and have been adored many times while i was self destructive.  i love self destructive women...it's a challenge and never boring...be seeing you  |
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I have seen them go to destructive mode months after the relationship is over
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Yeah, it hurts. I tried to help, but he's not ready for it. All I can do is keep a safe distance for now.
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too many times!
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Edited by
antediluvian
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Sun 01/18/09 08:50 PM
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the whole world is self-destructive, due to what seems to be the human incapacity to realize that we are selfish, self-centered creatures, mostly incapable of doing personal and en masse in-depth evaluations of our short-comings.
to me, the question is redundant: hell yes, i've been with people who are self-destructive, slowly or fast. it's the nature of modern humanity. i've traveled extensively the last few years, and it's the same story everywhere: people want everything they want and want it now, despite the obvious and harrowing consequences, long-term and short-term. a sad fact, but true nonetheless. the people who fret me the most are those who refuse to see, or cannot see, that we are all creating our own demise. and that is mostly everyone, except for a few rare exceptions. but even those who see the problem (myself included), have no clue how to stop the madness. |
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I'm the self-destructing one.
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My ex was a hard core violent alcoholic, it was his demise, three times through treatment didn't help. He died at the ripe old age of 45 due to alcoholic cardiomyopathy. No one could make him stop. I divorced him when his daughter was 5 so at least she didn't have to watch it first hand. So sad when people won't accept the help that is given them. He missed out on two beautiful grandchildren. Sometimes there is a positive to something like that, to the those who even read that. They realize how grateful they are for taking the help, for not dying, for finally being able to help others, to give a message of recovery, Unfortunately people die in that disease but it helps others to keep them clean and sober. Your in my prayers tonight. For the innocent kids that don't have a say so in the matter. |
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yea it sucks tears you up inside
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....but even those who see the problem (myself included), have no clue how to stop the madness. No clue? I would give many of us far more credit than that. Perhaps it is that we choose not to see, or we rationalize or minimize it away, for whatever reason. Perhaps it is our dharma, life path, or fate. Maybe there are life lessons to be learned and practiced or experiences to gain on our way to greater spiritual awareness or attainment. |
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Edited by
angelindarkness
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Mon 01/19/09 05:42 AM
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My ex was a hard core violent alcoholic, it was his demise, three times through treatment didn't help. He died at the ripe old age of 45 due to alcoholic cardiomyopathy. No one could make him stop. I divorced him when his daughter was 5 so at least she didn't have to watch it first hand. So sad when people won't accept the help that is given them. He missed out on two beautiful grandchildren. Sometimes there is a positive to something like that, to the those who even read that. They realize how grateful they are for taking the help, for not dying, for finally being able to help others, to give a message of recovery, Unfortunately people die in that disease but it helps others to keep them clean and sober. Your in my prayers tonight. And in the same way, there are those that "die for love". Hopefully, their tragedy will help others to see and learn will prompt them to choose a healthier way. There is no glory in martyring oneself. There is comfort in knowing that you didn't live in vain. |
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its still there
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My ex was a hard core violent alcoholic, it was his demise, three times through treatment didn't help. He died at the ripe old age of 45 due to alcoholic cardiomyopathy. No one could make him stop. I divorced him when his daughter was 5 so at least she didn't have to watch it first hand. So sad when people won't accept the help that is given them. He missed out on two beautiful grandchildren. Sometimes there is a positive to something like that, to the those who even read that. They realize how grateful they are for taking the help, for not dying, for finally being able to help others, to give a message of recovery, Unfortunately people die in that disease but it helps others to keep them clean and sober. Your in my prayers tonight. And in the same way, there are those that "die for love". Hopefully, their tragedy will help others to see and learn will prompt them to choose a healthier way. There is no glory in martyring oneself. There is comfort in knowing that you didn't live in vain. 
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