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A couple in northeastern Georgia apparently were attacked and killed by nearly a dozen dogs, authorities said today.
Former college professor Lothar Karl Schweder, 77, and his wife, Sherry Schweder, 65, most likely died of injuries that occurred in a dog attack, according to Oglethorpe County Sheriff Mike Smith. The couple's mutilated bodies were found Saturday morning by five passers-by. Smith said they likely were killed by dogs because the scene was so grisly. http://www.examiner.com/x-15948-Homicide-Examiner~y2009m8d17-Georgia-couple-killed-by-dogs video report: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFcmdatvVUo&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.google.com%2Fnews%3Fhl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox- ------------------------------------------------------------------- so much for innocence of dogs and all those arguments dogs do not attack unless provoked |
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how ironic
if this was a bout a person killing dogs it would have had 4-5 posts from the 10 views but seeing as how it is about viciousness of dogs it gets nothing where was vick when they needed him 
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not sure where you're heading with this thread nor what it is in response to
 Smith said they likely were killed by dogs because the scene was so grisly. operative word is likely anyway aren't dogs natural hunters? |
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yes they are
but to many of the dog lovers say that dogs would never do such a thing have you read the vick threads i do not condone what vick did but there were a lot of misnomers about the goodness of dogs in those threads where are those that said those things now how can they justify what they said in those threads can they? should they? |
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yes they are but to many of the dog lovers say that dogs would never do such a thing have you read the vick threads i do not condone what vick did but there were a lot of misnomers about the goodness of dogs in those threads where are those that said those things now how can they justify what they said in those threads can they? should they? ahhh can they justify it? yes, even if only to themselves. should they? yes, don't want to lose any more of my rights entirely up to you whether you buy into the justification (jmo)  |
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well fran
i do not think it will matter i feel they will avoid this like it is a full blown aids victim with seeping sores and all but hey........... |
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I love dogs and think for the most part, they're pretty good animals. I think most people forget that, though "domesticated," they are animals, an animal whose instinct is to hunt. Whether a dog attacks out of hunger or survival, it is doing nothing more or less than following its own natural instincts. There is no right or wrong, it just is a fact of nature. People need to be more mindful of this.
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and yes it did say likely
but it also said officers had to fire shots to scare the dogs away from them so hey it is what it is 
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I love dogs and think for the most part, they're pretty good animals. I think most people forget that, though "domesticated," they are animals, an animal whose instinct is to hunt. Whether a dog attacks out of hunger or survival, it is doing nothing more or less than following its own natural instincts. There is no right or wrong, it just is a fact of nature. People need to be more mindful of this. so if someone fights a dog (that is a natural hunter fighter they should be crucified but if a pack of dogs kill people it is ok interesting |
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just replied to your post, haven't been in those M. Vick threads and truly didnt read link - which is why I responded to you.
I'm w/Suz - dont all animals (humans included) have that self preservation instinct? |
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I love dogs and think for the most part, they're pretty good animals. I think most people forget that, though "domesticated," they are animals, an animal whose instinct is to hunt. Whether a dog attacks out of hunger or survival, it is doing nothing more or less than following its own natural instincts. There is no right or wrong, it just is a fact of nature. People need to be more mindful of this. so if someone fights a dog (that is a natural hunter fighter they should be crucified but if a pack of dogs kill people it is ok interesting I never said that either was ok or not ok. I very specifically did not comment on Vick, only on the case of the dog attack on the people. As the article, as you posted it, did not say definitively that it was a dog attack (though they seem to feel that is a reasonable scenario) nor did it give any kind of explanation as to what exactly happened, it's hard to give an opinion as to the rightness or wrongness. Was the couple walking in the woods and the dogs just attacked for no reason? Were the dogs starving? Did the couple provoke the dogs? Did they have rabies? Do the circumstances even matter in the natural scheme of life? Would it matter if another "wilder" animal was the killer(s) of the couple? If an alligator attacked them, or a bear, or a cougar, would people see this differently? I feel bad for the couple, if that's what happened it's a horrible way to die. But I cannot judge nature, it is what it is. |
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yes they do
but do you think that elderly couple posed a threat to the pack of dogs and remember they were attacked individually at different times as the article says he went looking for here when she did not return and having animal fights is exploiting the survival instinct of which you speak like i said i do not condone what vick did but these dogs being dogs makes their actions ok i think not and the cops had to shoot at them to scare them off (where they attempting to attack the cops) (it does not say) |
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Edited by
adj4u
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Tue 08/18/09 01:56 PM
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I love dogs and think for the most part, they're pretty good animals. I think most people forget that, though "domesticated," they are animals, an animal whose instinct is to hunt. Whether a dog attacks out of hunger or survival, it is doing nothing more or less than following its own natural instincts. There is no right or wrong, it just is a fact of nature. People need to be more mindful of this. so if someone fights a dog (that is a natural hunter fighter they should be crucified but if a pack of dogs kill people it is ok interesting I never said that either was ok or not ok. I very specifically did not comment on Vick, only on the case of the dog attack on the people. As the article, as you posted it, did not say definitively that it was a dog attack (though they seem to feel that is a reasonable scenario) nor did it give any kind of explanation as to what exactly happened, it's hard to give an opinion as to the rightness or wrongness. Was the couple walking in the woods and the dogs just attacked for no reason? Were the dogs starving? Did the couple provoke the dogs? Did they have rabies? Do the circumstances even matter in the natural scheme of life? Would it matter if another "wilder" animal was the killer(s) of the couple? If an alligator attacked them, or a bear, or a cougar, would people see this differently? I feel bad for the couple, if that's what happened it's a horrible way to die. But I cannot judge nature, it is what it is. """There is no right or wrong, it just is a fact of nature.""" that appears to me as them being dogs gives them a pass sorry if i misunderstood it if it was a bear or a gator would they have fired to scare or kill remember we are talking a pack not just one or two |
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"""There is no right or wrong, it just is a fact of nature.""" that appears to me as them being dogs gives them a pass sorry if i misunderstood it if it was a bear or a gator would they have fired to scare or kill remember we are talking a pack not just one or two I don't believe we can judge an animal's behavior on human standards. Animals do not have the same capacity for thought, consequences, etc as humans, they act on instinct. I guess in your interpretation that means I'm giving them a pass. Perhaps I am. I stick with my opinion, though, that we cannot judge an animals behavior by standards I would hold people to, instincts will prevail in all animals, you cannot change nature, it is what it is. |
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Edited by
Unknow
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Tue 08/18/09 04:22 PM
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Do you want me to say some irresponsible owner left them to run wild(There are packs of strays running lose in certain areas here!)
I will say a dog owner should be responsible enough to carry liability on their dogs and pets... I will say I cant get Homeowners on my home if I own a Pit, Rott or German Shepard but people renting and lying to their landlord have them... The first only applies here because yes I blame people for not being responsible Have I said enough? |
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Do you want me to say some irresponsible owner left them to run wild(There are packs of strays running lose in certain areas here!) I will say a dog owner should be responsible enough to carry liability on their dogs and pets... I will say I cant get Homeowners on my home if I own a Pit, Rott or German Shepard but people renting and lying to their landlord have them... Have I said enough? Agreed, there are many, many irresponsible owners. That was part of my point about people forgetting the basic nature of their pets. That's irresponsible as well. |
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Do you want me to say some irresponsible owner left them to run wild(There are packs of strays running lose in certain areas here!) I will say a dog owner should be responsible enough to carry liability on their dogs and pets... I will say I cant get Homeowners on my home if I own a Pit, Rott or German Shepard but people renting and lying to their landlord have them... Have I said enough? Agreed, there are many, many irresponsible owners. That was part of my point about people forgetting the basic nature of their pets. That's irresponsible as well. I want to add Vick is a low life scum for what he did!!!! That is the King of irresponsibility!!!!!
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