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Topic: Madalyn Murray O'hair was not an Atheist
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Sat 11/20/10 06:06 PM
Madalyn Murray O’Hair was Not an Atheist!
By David J. Stewart

That's right, Madalyn O'Hair was NOT an atheist! Shocked? An atheist by definition is: Someone who denies the existence of God. From O'Hair's own statements, it is clear that she DID believe in God, very much so, and she hated Him with a passion...

"We find God to be sadistic, brutal and a representation of hatred."

SOURCE: THE ATHEIST, by Bryan F. LeBeau, pg. 85 (a response from the self-announced "Maryland Atheist" to a Life magazine editorial)

You can't express utter contempt for a God Who doesn't exist. Madalyn O'Hair hated God and the Bible. It's irrefutable evidence against any professed "atheist" who curses in God's name, talks about how much they hate God, and spends their life attacking a Person that allegedly "doesn't exist." No one hates God as much as professed "atheists." Madalyn Murray O'Hair was no atheist. Her very hatred for God manifested her belief in God. Madalyn O'Hair was consumed with hatred and anger against a God that she claimed didn't exist.


Madalyn O'Hair: The Monster

Madalyn's eldest son, William (now an evangelist), said this of his mother in his testimony...

"I was born into a home of near constant rage and violence. As a result of my mother's constant angry outbursts, she could not hold down a job. She, my brother and I, lived with her parents and my unmarried uncle. My grandfather had never filed an income tax return and most of what he did do during his life was illegal or ill advised. My grandmother read Tarot cards and sent out demons by burning human hair. My uncle kept hoards of pornography in his room and my mother filled the house with statues of mating animals which she worshipped."

SOURCE: http://www.wjmurray.com

If anyone is sadistic, brutal and hateful, it was "Mad Madalyn." William J. Murray further states concerning his mother…

“When I was a young boy of ten or eleven years old she would come home and brag about spending the day in X-rated movie theaters in downtown Baltimore...”

“My mother delighted in hiring unrepentant criminals to work in her atheist office. She particularly enjoyed hiring convicted murderers who had served their time but were unrepentant about what they had done...”

“My mother was an evil person ... Not for removing prayer from America's schools ... No ... She was just evil. She stole huge amounts of money. She misused the trust of people. She cheated children out of their parents' inheritance. She cheated on her taxes and even stole from her own organizations. She once printed up phony stock certificates on her own printing press to try to take over another atheist publishing company. I could go on but I won't. All the money my mother made in this manner stayed behind. It did not go with her. 'For we brought nothing into this world and it is certain we can carry nothing out’” (1st Timothy 6:7).

“My mother simply believed, 'Do what thou wilt shall be the only law.’”

SOURCE: http://www.wjmurray.com

"Mad Madalyn" lived out her professed atheism. No atheist should be ashamed of her and her profane life and words, for she was the epitome of every professed "atheist." She lived a reckless life of self-indulgence, wickedness and rebellion against the God of the Bible. No one curses God more than professed atheists. Truthfully, there is NO such thing as a genuine atheist, only wannabes, i.e., people who prefer to live as if there is no God in their unrepentant minds.

Ultimately, O'Hair's bad company brought her own tragic demise and that of her precious family...

"The dismembered bodies of Madalyn Murray O’Hair, Jon Murray and Robin Murray were found in January of 2000 in Camp Wood, Texas. One of the killers, David Waters, led the authorities to the site in return for a guarantee he would serve his time in a Federal rather than in a Texas state prison. He died of prison of liver decease in 2003. A second killer was sentenced to live in prison."

SOURCE: http://www.wjmurray.com

Madalyn liked hiring unrepentant, convicted felons — disobedient, lawless, reprobate persons — and one of them ending up stealing $54,000 from her and killing her. Her Mercedes, her mansion, and her fine liquor took her down that Highway to Hell way that so many people foolishly choose to go down.


Madalyn Murray O'Hair is America!

The following quote from William J. O'Hair is an indictment against America as a nation...

"In reality my mother did not create the times, the times created her. She was what America was about in the sixties and seventies. There were several cases going to the Supreme Court to remove prayer. Her case just got there first. The left-wing Court of the day wanted prayer out of the schools and to allow abortion on demand. They virtually were advertising for cases to change America. But my mother saw the secular and sexual turn in America as centered around her." [Emphasis added]

SOURCE: http://www.wjmurray.com

Mr. O'Hair is correct... his mother simply embodied the spiritual condition of an entire nation during the sixties and seventies. Madalyn Murray O'Hair is America!!!

Look at America today! Murdering little children is LEGAL. Casino gambling is LEGAL. Producing, selling and viewing pornography is LEGAL. Getting drunk is LEGAL. Fornication is LEGAL. Homosexuality is LEGAL.

Even more representative of America is Miss USA, Tara Conner, who is a superb representative of American women today. She will continue wearing her crown, as the epitome of her country's lack of morals. It shouldn't be a surprise. American women are responsible for murdering nearly 50,000,000 babies by abortion!!! This is because of the wicked fornication in America, which has produced tens-of-millions of unwanted children. Worldly music, TV, and feminism are MUCH to blame for this corruption of America's morals. Can you image... fifty million people are not here today in the U.S. because they were murdered by their mothers! It's the reckless boozing and wild partying lifestyle which has fueled the abortion industry. Tara Conner is a good representative of that evil. Yes, she truly is Miss USA!


Conclusion

Madalyn Murray O'Hair, by her own expressed hatred for God, clearly evidenced that she believed in God. Her pathetic life is a sad account of evil and bitter hatred. She died a horrible death at the hands of one of her own kind. Sadly, Madalyn is most likely burning in the fires of Hell this moment; but her son made a wonderful statement that I want to share with you...

"Christ is there for the vilest offender. The serial killer whose prayer at the hour of his death is genuine is also forgiven."

SOURCE: http://www.wjmurray.com



http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Atheism/madalyn_ohair.htm


Abracadabra's photo
Sat 11/20/10 07:07 PM

You can't express utter contempt for a God Who doesn't exist. Madalyn O'Hair hated God and the Bible


Sure you can.

You can indeed point out the fact that a mythological God you don't believe in is disgusting.

I do it all the time. flowerforyou

This is just a misunderstanding by the people who believe that the mythological God is real.

She was putting down the very ideologies that Christians support in the "Name of God" by suggesting that such a God would indeed be a hateful sadistic God ----- AND THUS CANNOT BE REAL!

It would be utterly stupid to think that someone would believe that a real God could be vile, because that's a contradiction in terms.

Your posts states:
"Her very hatred for God manifested her belief in God. Madalyn O'Hair was consumed with hatred and anger against a God that she claimed didn't exist."

Her hatred and anger was probably being directed toward the religious people who the biblical God as an excuse for bigotry and hatred themselves.

And what's this?

"No atheist should be ashamed of her and her profane life and words, for she was the epitome of every professed "atheist." She lived a reckless life of self-indulgence, wickedness and rebellion against the God of the Bible. No one curses God more than professed atheists. Truthfully, there is NO such thing as a genuine atheist, only wannabes, i.e., people who prefer to live as if there is no God in their unrepentant minds."

More hatred being spewed by the Christians toward anyone who doesn't believe in their hateful God. whoa

And why should the following be sad?

"Sadly, Madalyn is most likely burning in the fires of Hell this moment"

If this is the WILL of the hateful Christian God then all the Christians should be cheering in bliss that the WILL of their God has prevailed. whoa

This is how utterly stupid the religion is.

It's God's will for people, to be cast into hell, yet it's supposed to be sad? Why? If she DESERVED it according to God's "Righteousness" then it was her "Righteous fate".

Why should anyone be sad that "Righteousness" was done?

It would only be sad if it was unrighteous for her to be there!

This is what's so oxymoronic about this religion that has a God who casts people into hell.

I personally have no clue who Madalyn Murray O’Hair even was. I'm not defending her in any way. But it's clear to me that this whole article is nothing more than Christians foaming at the mouth to spew their hatred for anyone who speaks out against their stupid religion.

What's the purpose of posting this article, and what's up with comparing ALL ATHEISTS with this one woman? huh

What sense does that even make?

This is clearly just propaganda for an artificial "WAR" between Christians and Atheists.

I'm glad that I'm neither. laugh

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Sun 11/21/10 03:55 AM


I personally have no clue who Madalyn Murray O’Hair even was. I'm not defending her in any way. But it's clear to me that this whole article is nothing more than Christians foaming at the mouth to spew their hatred for anyone who speaks out against their stupid religion.

What's the purpose of posting this article, and what's up with comparing ALL ATHEISTS with this one woman? huh

What sense does that even make?

This is clearly just propaganda for an artificial "WAR" between Christians and Atheists.



Yep, no different than when idiot militant Fundies say all Unbelievers are closet Stalinists.

There is a chain of stores in the area where I live that sells overstocked, discontinued or buy-out merchanise for pennies on the dollar. They have a huge book section-- sometimes nearly a full half of the department consists of bargain-bin Christian 'Inspirational' books.

-Kerry O.


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Sun 11/21/10 04:27 AM


..sounds like her son was just making excuses for his mother,"my mother didn't create the times the times created her"..oh please..his mother was just one sick bytch..she what, justified her hatred in a vile and sadistic God by doing the same thing as she believed he did.. a twisted hypocrisy of sorts..but none the less always leaving out one key element..CHOICE..to this i can only say BS...smokin

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Sun 11/21/10 05:17 AM
The only thing this lady accomplished was to show the world just how stupid most people are.............we sat back and let her make choices for all of us...and she accomplished that by never being quite........of course she was "athiest"...........a christian would have never attempted to keep prayer out of schools............now we need police officers, metal detectors to protect our children while trying to educate them.......shame on us.....for allowing one crazy woman to do this to us........I will continue to pray for her....and her soul

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Sun 11/21/10 07:04 AM

The only thing this lady accomplished was to show the world just how stupid most people are.............we sat back and let her make choices for all of us...and she accomplished that by never being quite........of course she was "athiest"...........a christian would have never attempted to keep prayer out of schools............now we need police officers, metal detectors to protect our children while trying to educate them.......shame on us.....for allowing one crazy woman to do this to us........I will continue to pray for her....and her soul


The real culprits here are those heathens known as "The Founding Fathers" and a Supreme Court that consisted of nothing BUT Christians who interpreted their Constitution, NOT as you put it "atheists".

Besides, doesn't your own Holy Scripture quote Christ as saying NOT to pray like the Pharisees did, in public making a big show of righteousness?

And isn't it the Far Right Christians who want people to be able to have as many guns and weapons as they want? With little to NO regulations about who can purchase and carry them? Isn't it that same group who has created an economic system which pretty much DEMANDS the people raising the children having to work to make ends meet?

It's easy to demonize one person or one small group and make them scapegoats for the sins of the majority. It's quite another to actually take responsibility where it's due and actually DO something about the inequities in society.

-Kerry O.

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Sun 11/21/10 07:45 AM


The only thing this lady accomplished was to show the world just how stupid most people are.............we sat back and let her make choices for all of us...and she accomplished that by never being quite........of course she was "athiest"...........a christian would have never attempted to keep prayer out of schools............now we need police officers, metal detectors to protect our children while trying to educate them.......shame on us.....for allowing one crazy woman to do this to us........I will continue to pray for her....and her soul


The real culprits here are those heathens known as "The Founding Fathers" and a Supreme Court that consisted of nothing BUT Christians who interpreted their Constitution, NOT as you put it "atheists".

Besides, doesn't your own Holy Scripture quote Christ as saying NOT to pray like the Pharisees did, in public making a big show of righteousness?

And isn't it the Far Right Christians who want people to be able to have as many guns and weapons as they want? With little to NO regulations about who can purchase and carry them? Isn't it that same group who has created an economic system which pretty much DEMANDS the people raising the children having to work to make ends meet?

It's easy to demonize one person or one small group and make them scapegoats for the sins of the majority. It's quite another to actually take responsibility where it's due and actually DO something about the inequities in society.

-Kerry O.


Yes, it's easy to demonize them, the first sentence of your post proves your own point... LOL

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Sun 11/21/10 08:49 AM
Edited by CeriseRose on Sun 11/21/10 09:48 AM


You can't express utter contempt for a God Who doesn't exist. Madalyn O'Hair hated God and the Bible


Sure you can.

You can indeed point out the fact that a mythological God you don't believe in is disgusting.

I do it all the time. flowerforyou

This is just a misunderstanding by the people who believe that the mythological God is real.

She was putting down the very ideologies that Christians support in the "Name of God" by suggesting that such a God would indeed be a hateful sadistic God ----- AND THUS CANNOT BE REAL!

It would be utterly stupid to think that someone would believe that a real God could be vile, because that's a contradiction in terms.

Your posts states:
"Her very hatred for God manifested her belief in God. Madalyn O'Hair was consumed with hatred and anger against a God that she claimed didn't exist."

Her hatred and anger was probably being directed toward the religious people who the biblical God as an excuse for bigotry and hatred themselves.

And what's this?

"No atheist should be ashamed of her and her profane life and words, for she was the epitome of every professed "atheist." She lived a reckless life of self-indulgence, wickedness and rebellion against the God of the Bible. No one curses God more than professed atheists. Truthfully, there is NO such thing as a genuine atheist, only wannabes, i.e., people who prefer to live as if there is no God in their unrepentant minds."

More hatred being spewed by the Christians toward anyone who doesn't believe in their hateful God. whoa

And why should the following be sad?

"Sadly, Madalyn is most likely burning in the fires of Hell this moment"

If this is the WILL of the hateful Christian God then all the Christians should be cheering in bliss that the WILL of their God has prevailed. whoa

This is how utterly stupid the religion is.

It's God's will for people, to be cast into hell, yet it's supposed to be sad? Why? If she DESERVED it according to God's "Righteousness" then it was her "Righteous fate".

Why should anyone be sad that "Righteousness" was done?

It would only be sad if it was unrighteous for her to be there!

This is what's so oxymoronic about this religion that has a God who casts people into hell.

I personally have no clue who Madalyn Murray O’Hair even was. I'm not defending her in any way. But it's clear to me that this whole article is nothing more than Christians foaming at the mouth to spew their hatred for anyone who speaks out against their stupid religion.

What's the purpose of posting this article, and what's up with comparing ALL ATHEISTS with this one woman? huh

What sense does that even make?

This is clearly just propaganda for an artificial "WAR" between Christians and Atheists.
I'm glad that I'm neither. laugh



I don't see hatred in the use of this article,

only the revelation that evil attitudes

and behaviors can sometimes be adopted

and copied in the name of organized protest

destroying good morals standard in our society.

A person with a mental illness having

that much impact over the sound laws of society.

spock


Also that atheist claim to not believe

in the God of the bible, yet hate Him so much.

slaphead

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Sun 11/21/10 09:00 AM
:tongue:

The only thing this lady accomplished was to show the world just how stupid most people are.............we sat back and let her make choices for all of us...and she accomplished that by never being quite........of course she was "athiest"...........a christian would have never attempted to keep prayer out of schools............now we need police officers, metal detectors to protect our children while trying to educate them.......shame on us.....for allowing one crazy woman to do this to us........I will continue to pray for her....and her soul



Exactly!!!

Pray for others like her.

She is now deseased.

sad2

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Sun 11/21/10 10:16 AM


You can't express utter contempt for a God Who doesn't exist. Madalyn O'Hair hated God and the Bible


Sure you can.

You can indeed point out the fact that a mythological God you don't believe in is disgusting.

I do it all the time. flowerforyou

This is just a misunderstanding by the people who believe that the mythological God is real.

She was putting down the very ideologies that Christians support in the "Name of God" by suggesting that such a God would indeed be a hateful sadistic God ----- AND THUS CANNOT BE REAL!

It would be utterly stupid to think that someone would believe that a real God could be vile, because that's a contradiction in terms.

Your posts states:
"Her very hatred for God manifested her belief in God. Madalyn O'Hair was consumed with hatred and anger against a God that she claimed didn't exist."

Her hatred and anger was probably being directed toward the religious people who the biblical God as an excuse for bigotry and hatred themselves.

And what's this?

"No atheist should be ashamed of her and her profane life and words, for she was the epitome of every professed "atheist." She lived a reckless life of self-indulgence, wickedness and rebellion against the God of the Bible. No one curses God more than professed atheists. Truthfully, there is NO such thing as a genuine atheist, only wannabes, i.e., people who prefer to live as if there is no God in their unrepentant minds."

More hatred being spewed by the Christians toward anyone who doesn't believe in their hateful God. whoa

And why should the following be sad?

"Sadly, Madalyn is most likely burning in the fires of Hell this moment"

If this is the WILL of the hateful Christian God then all the Christians should be cheering in bliss that the WILL of their God has prevailed. whoa

This is how utterly stupid the religion is.

It's God's will for people, to be cast into hell, yet it's supposed to be sad? Why? If she DESERVED it according to God's "Righteousness" then it was her "Righteous fate".

Why should anyone be sad that "Righteousness" was done?

It would only be sad if it was unrighteous for her to be there!

This is what's so oxymoronic about this religion that has a God who casts people into hell.

I personally have no clue who Madalyn Murray O’Hair even was. I'm not defending her in any way. But it's clear to me that this whole article is nothing more than Christians foaming at the mouth to spew their hatred for anyone who speaks out against their stupid religion.

What's the purpose of posting this article, and what's up with comparing ALL ATHEISTS with this one woman? huh

What sense does that even make?

This is clearly just propaganda for an artificial "WAR" between Christians and Atheists.

I'm glad that I'm neither. laugh



It is not my intentions to have war with you for being a nonbeliever. Your rantings and misrepresentations of the gospel message appear to be vehicles of hate propaganda; they seem to serve no other purpose except that proselyte an Anti-Christian Biblical message.
While I will not argue with every hateful thing you say...from time to time I will remind you and others of your true state of mind.
It is obvious that underneath you may not be a true atheist, only one who refuses to see God as wiser than yourself.

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Sun 11/21/10 11:59 AM
Edited by Abracadabra on Sun 11/21/10 12:00 PM
CeriseRose wrote:

It is obvious that underneath you may not be a true atheist, only one who refuses to see God as wiser than yourself.


Oh but I don't.

On the contrary, I imagine that God is far wiser than me. Infinitely wiser.

This is why I recognize that the biblical stories cannot be from God. Those stories are not even close to being as wise as I am, much less representing infinite wisdom.

This is a mistake that all Christians make. They see a rejection of the Biblical stories to be a rejection of God. Because from thier perspective there is no difference between the biblical stories and God, because they hold the Bible up as as being "God's Word".

But that's precisely the notion that I reject. flowers


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Sun 11/21/10 12:01 PM

CeriseRose wrote:

It is obvious that underneath you may not be a true atheist, only one who refuses to see God as wiser than yourself.


Oh but I don't.

On the contrary, I imagine that God is far wiser than me. Infinitely wiser.

This is why I recognize that the biblical stories cannot be from God. Those stories are not even close to being as wise as I am, much less representing infinite wisdom.

This is a mistake that all Christians make. They see a rejection of the Biblical stories to be a rejection of God. Because from there perspective there is no difference between the biblical stories and God because they hold the Bible up as as being "God's Word".

But that's precisely the notion that I reject. flowers




Is it intelligent to be incredibly proud of one's self? Is it intelligent to see yourself as greater then another?

Abracadabra's photo
Sun 11/21/10 12:20 PM

Is it intelligent to be incredibly proud of one's self?


If someone has done something that merits pride, then yes, I think it's intelligent to be proud of one's achievements.

I see nothing wrong with that.


Is it intelligent to see yourself as greater then another?


I personally see no value in that mindset in general, but this can become a can of worms when it comes to protecting ourselves and loved ones from harm. Did the rest of the world consider themselves to be "greater than" Hitler?

How do you define "greater than"? Do you consider your moral values to be greater than Hitler's? If so, does this make you greater than Hitler?


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Sun 11/21/10 12:34 PM


Is it intelligent to be incredibly proud of one's self?


If someone has done something that merits pride, then yes, I think it's intelligent to be proud of one's achievements.

I see nothing wrong with that.


Is it intelligent to see yourself as greater then another?


I personally see no value in that mindset in general, but this can become a can of worms when it comes to protecting ourselves and loved ones from harm. Did the rest of the world consider themselves to be "greater than" Hitler?

How do you define "greater than"? Do you consider your moral values to be greater than Hitler's? If so, does this make you greater than Hitler?




If one is proud one feels they've accomplished something greater then at least one other person. Otherwise there would be no reason to be "proud" in oneself. Cause otherwise it would just be an accomplishment.

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Sun 11/21/10 12:37 PM



Is it intelligent to be incredibly proud of one's self?


If someone has done something that merits pride, then yes, I think it's intelligent to be proud of one's achievements.

I see nothing wrong with that.


Is it intelligent to see yourself as greater then another?


I personally see no value in that mindset in general, but this can become a can of worms when it comes to protecting ourselves and loved ones from harm. Did the rest of the world consider themselves to be "greater than" Hitler?

How do you define "greater than"? Do you consider your moral values to be greater than Hitler's? If so, does this make you greater than Hitler?




If one is proud one feels they've accomplished something greater then at least one other person. Otherwise there would be no reason to be "proud" in oneself. Cause otherwise it would just be an accomplishment.


The definition of proud.

a surface that protrudes more than its neighbour can be described as proud. Compare with recessed and flush.

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Sun 11/21/10 12:54 PM
Cowboy wrote:

If one is proud one feels they've accomplished something greater then at least one other person. Otherwise there would be no reason to be "proud" in oneself. Cause otherwise it would just be an accomplishment.


I totally disagree. A person can be proud of themselves, relative to their very own previous accomplishments.

You can pervert these concepts all you want. It doesn't mean that other people need to accept your perverted negativity.

Besides, what's pride got to do with anything? Where did anyone claim to be proud of themselves?

I must have missed that.

You posted this question in response to my comments that I believe that God is infinitely wise and the biblical stories are not, therefore I conclude that the biblical stories cannot be "God's Word".

So what does this have to do with the concept of being "proud"?







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Sun 11/21/10 12:59 PM

Cowboy wrote:

If one is proud one feels they've accomplished something greater then at least one other person. Otherwise there would be no reason to be "proud" in oneself. Cause otherwise it would just be an accomplishment.


I totally disagree. A person can be proud of themselves, relative to their very own previous accomplishments.

You can pervert these concepts all you want. It doesn't mean that other people need to accept your perverted negativity.

Besides, what's pride got to do with anything? Where did anyone claim to be proud of themselves?

I must have missed that.

You posted this question in response to my comments that I believe that God is infinitely wise and the biblical stories are not, therefore I conclude that the biblical stories cannot be "God's Word".

So what does this have to do with the concept of being "proud"?










This is why I recognize that the biblical stories cannot be from God. Those stories are not even close to being as wise as I am, much less representing infinite wisdom.


You were being proud in yourself stating you're more wise then God.

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Sun 11/21/10 01:09 PM


Cowboy wrote:

If one is proud one feels they've accomplished something greater then at least one other person. Otherwise there would be no reason to be "proud" in oneself. Cause otherwise it would just be an accomplishment.


I totally disagree. A person can be proud of themselves, relative to their very own previous accomplishments.

You can pervert these concepts all you want. It doesn't mean that other people need to accept your perverted negativity.

Besides, what's pride got to do with anything? Where did anyone claim to be proud of themselves?

I must have missed that.

You posted this question in response to my comments that I believe that God is infinitely wise and the biblical stories are not, therefore I conclude that the biblical stories cannot be "God's Word".

So what does this have to do with the concept of being "proud"?










This is why I recognize that the biblical stories cannot be from God. Those stories are not even close to being as wise as I am, much less representing infinite wisdom.


You were being proud in yourself stating you're more wise then God.


But that's false.

I'm not stating that I'm more wise than God at all.

I'm stating that I don't see any wisdom in the biblical fables, thus they clearly cannot be from any all-wise God.

Precisely the opposite of what you are claiming here.

You are just aren't comprehending my position is all.


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Sun 11/21/10 01:22 PM



Cowboy wrote:

If one is proud one feels they've accomplished something greater then at least one other person. Otherwise there would be no reason to be "proud" in oneself. Cause otherwise it would just be an accomplishment.


I totally disagree. A person can be proud of themselves, relative to their very own previous accomplishments.

You can pervert these concepts all you want. It doesn't mean that other people need to accept your perverted negativity.

Besides, what's pride got to do with anything? Where did anyone claim to be proud of themselves?

I must have missed that.

You posted this question in response to my comments that I believe that God is infinitely wise and the biblical stories are not, therefore I conclude that the biblical stories cannot be "God's Word".

So what does this have to do with the concept of being "proud"?










This is why I recognize that the biblical stories cannot be from God. Those stories are not even close to being as wise as I am, much less representing infinite wisdom.


You were being proud in yourself stating you're more wise then God.


But that's false.

I'm not stating that I'm more wise than God at all.

I'm stating that I don't see any wisdom in the biblical fables, thus they clearly cannot be from any all-wise God.

Precisely the opposite of what you are claiming here.

You are just aren't comprehending my position is all.




Oh but I do comprehend your position. But the bible is the word of God no matter how you twist it around, so therefore with you stating that you are wiser then the God the bible depicts you are stating you are wiser then God.

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Sun 11/21/10 02:48 PM
Cowboy wrote:

Oh but I do comprehend your position. But the bible is the word of God no matter how you twist it around, so therefore with you stating that you are wiser then the God the bible depicts you are stating you are wiser then God.


You may as well be saying to me, "Oh but Zeus is God, so if you are stating that you're wiser than Zeus, then you are stating that you are wiser then God"

No, not at all. I'm simply explaining one reason why I'm convinced that Zeus is a totally fictional picture of God.

Now just replace "Zeus" with "Yahweh" and you're all set. drinker

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