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| Topic: Little ditty about Hell | |
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And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: Don't snakes live in fields also? Looks like the Serpent wasn't a snake or even an animal. The term "Serpent" is used to imply wisdom and in some cases deviousness. Genesis is talking about Satan, not some animal. So all in all, yes "hell" is the grave. And that is why when it says "condemned" to the grave or "condemned" to hell, it is referring to the same place. And is why Jesus spent 3 days in the heart of the Earth eg., hell. Hell is described alternately as being eaten by worms, as fire and as darkness. Hell isn't the grave. I believe that hell is annihilation. Don't snakes live in fields also? Looks like the Serpent wasn't a snake or even an animal. The term "Serpent" is used to imply wisdom and in some cases deviousness. Genesis is talking about Satan, not some animal. So Satan is cursed to live on his belly and eat dust the rest of his life? Hell is described alternately as being eaten by worms, as fire and as darkness. Hell isn't the grave. I believe that hell is annihilation. Please give this description. I've never heard the description of hell being about being eaten by warms. And hell is the grave, look up the meanings of the original words. |
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I believe that hell is annihilation. Interesting. |
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Cowboy, how can hell be the grave when we are all to be resurrected from the grave before the Judgement? Isn't Hell permanent?
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Cowboy, how can hell be the grave when we are all to be resurrected from the grave before the Judgement? Isn't Hell permanent? Hell is not permanent. Revelation 20:14 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And this makes sense as to why a new Earth and Heaven is made. Revelation 21 1And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. A new Heaven was needed because of the war that went on inside of Heaven. Revelation 12:7 7And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, |
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Okay, I see what you are saying. The damnation part is permanent. But, the physical place called "Hell" is not.
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Okay, I see what you are saying. The damnation part is permanent. But, the physical place called "Hell" is not. Yes. "Hell" is purely a temporary holding place originally set up for Satan once he fell from Heaven. Hell was made for Satan, it was not made for man, nor was man made for Hell. |
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Okay, I see what you are saying. The damnation part is permanent. But, the physical place called "Hell" is not. Yes. "Hell" is purely a temporary holding place originally set up for Satan once he fell from Heaven. Hell was made for Satan, it was not made for man, nor was man made for Hell. Yeah, I remember all that. You just made it sound as thought Hell was not permanent....which it may or may not be, but I know the Bible teaches that the damned are damned forever. So, I just wanted to clarify. |
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Okay, I see what you are saying. The damnation part is permanent. But, the physical place called "Hell" is not. Yes. "Hell" is purely a temporary holding place originally set up for Satan once he fell from Heaven. Hell was made for Satan, it was not made for man, nor was man made for Hell. Yeah, I remember all that. You just made it sound as thought Hell was not permanent....which it may or may not be, but I know the Bible teaches that the damned are damned forever. So, I just wanted to clarify. Yes the damned will be damned forever. But not in hell. For hell is not permanent nor was it made for man. It and every one in it eg., Satan and his angels will be thrown into the lake of fire and destroyed along with everyone that did not receive the gift of eternal life through Jesus Christ. |
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No one said a cow was aggressive. Your money would be on the snake eh? Hmmm, yeah I can see where you'd think that a bull couldn't stampede on a snake before it bit the bull. Nobody said the bull would have to stab it with it's horn or ram it or anything. And yeah a snake might get lucky from time to time. But as a general factor, the bull would be the dominate species. Heck if you wanna get that technical, spides are the top dominate species. The poisonouse ones anyhow. They are small enough to be able to sneak up on any other beast, plus poinsonous enough to kill. A snake you can see easier then some spider. And a spider would be more of a possibility to bite you in your sleep and more prone to do so. First off, one bull does not make a stampede. Snakes can take down an elephant. I've even seen a snake take down an alligator, or was it a croc? Meh. Bull's are colored blind. Cow's are livestock. And yeah, I'd consider a spider above a snake. Since I think one of the spiders are more deadly then a snake. However, by that ideal alone, I think it's the Poison Dart Frog is actually the most deadly in a sense of 'poisonous'. But to say, 'you are lower then a cattle' Means very little, in my sense. T'was my point. ??? Do what??? You're stating this as it is a comparison. As in A was cursed and B was cursed as well, just A was cursed more then B. Nobody said the other animals were cursed. The serpant was cursed to being a lower dominate species, a lesser of a being so to speak then the rest of the beasts. Comparison? Perhaps. But if you say: "You are lower than dirt." That in itself, feels like a comparison on itself. So, if you tell me: "You are to be cursed above cattle and all the beasts of the field." ..and then tell me, that none of them are 'actually' cursed. Your original statement means absolutely nothing. Less dominant than any other species? Including rats and other animals that the snake/serpent would eat? How is that 'less' than when a snake/serpent has been able to take out some of the words most deadliest predators? Man. Bears. Crocodiles. Alligators. Elephants. Tigers. Lions. The list is almost infinite; which makes it very far from the bottom of said list. While it may not 'seek' out these predators, when confronted, it rarely 'runs' which I have to use loosely since it lacks 'legs'. |
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Okay, I see what you are saying. The damnation part is permanent. But, the physical place called "Hell" is not. Yes. "Hell" is purely a temporary holding place originally set up for Satan once he fell from Heaven. Hell was made for Satan, it was not made for man, nor was man made for Hell. Yeah, I remember all that. You just made it sound as thought Hell was not permanent....which it may or may not be, but I know the Bible teaches that the damned are damned forever. So, I just wanted to clarify. Yes the damned will be damned forever. But not in hell. For hell is not permanent nor was it made for man. It and every one in it eg., Satan and his angels will be thrown into the lake of fire and destroyed along with everyone that did not receive the gift of eternal life through Jesus Christ. Satan has angels? O.o News to me. But now I am confused by your own wording. I placed such in bold. If there are no 'men' in hell, who would actually be tossed into the lake with them? Second. God has banished men to Hell, if I recall correctly, he banished men there 'to suffer for eternity'. ..right, or wrong..? |
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