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Topic: It’s not a conspiracy! Elite controls global economy
Optomistic69's photo
Fri 04/13/12 02:37 PM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Fri 04/13/12 02:39 PM
Bank of America Corporation,
Morgan Stanley,
Goldman Sachs Group Inc,
Merrill Lynch & Co Inc,
JP Morgan Chase & Co

were included among the top 25.
Quick to dismiss criticism that they are merely concocting another conspiracy theory,
Glattfelder insists that their research is evidence-based.
"Reality is so complex, we must move away from dogma,
whether it's conspiracy theories or free-market," says James Glattfelder.

"Our analysis is reality-based, "he said, as cited by the weekly.




http://rt.com/news/global-elite-economy-conspiracy-427/

InvictusV's photo
Fri 04/13/12 02:54 PM

Bank of America Corporation,
Morgan Stanley,
Goldman Sachs Group Inc,
Merrill Lynch & Co Inc,
JP Morgan Chase & Co

were included among the top 25.
Quick to dismiss criticism that they are merely concocting another conspiracy theory,
Glattfelder insists that their research is evidence-based.
"Reality is so complex, we must move away from dogma,
whether it's conspiracy theories or free-market," says James Glattfelder.

"Our analysis is reality-based, "he said, as cited by the weekly.




http://rt.com/news/global-elite-economy-conspiracy-427/


so what are you going to do about it?

stand on the side of the road holding a sign?

mightymoe's photo
Fri 04/13/12 03:01 PM


Bank of America Corporation,
Morgan Stanley,
Goldman Sachs Group Inc,
Merrill Lynch & Co Inc,
JP Morgan Chase & Co

were included among the top 25.
Quick to dismiss criticism that they are merely concocting another conspiracy theory,
Glattfelder insists that their research is evidence-based.
"Reality is so complex, we must move away from dogma,
whether it's conspiracy theories or free-market," says James Glattfelder.

"Our analysis is reality-based, "he said, as cited by the weekly.




http://rt.com/news/global-elite-economy-conspiracy-427/


so what are you going to do about it?

stand on the side of the road holding a sign?


i was wondering the same thing...

Optomistic69's photo
Fri 04/13/12 03:05 PM


Bank of America Corporation,
Morgan Stanley,
Goldman Sachs Group Inc,
Merrill Lynch & Co Inc,
JP Morgan Chase & Co

were included among the top 25.
Quick to dismiss criticism that they are merely concocting another conspiracy theory,
Glattfelder insists that their research is evidence-based.
"Reality is so complex, we must move away from dogma,
whether it's conspiracy theories or free-market," says James Glattfelder.

"Our analysis is reality-based, "he said, as cited by the weekly.




http://rt.com/news/global-elite-economy-conspiracy-427/


so what are you going to do about it?

stand on the side of the road holding a sign?


More to the point, do you agree or disagree?

mightymoe's photo
Fri 04/13/12 03:18 PM



Bank of America Corporation,
Morgan Stanley,
Goldman Sachs Group Inc,
Merrill Lynch & Co Inc,
JP Morgan Chase & Co

were included among the top 25.
Quick to dismiss criticism that they are merely concocting another conspiracy theory,
Glattfelder insists that their research is evidence-based.
"Reality is so complex, we must move away from dogma,
whether it's conspiracy theories or free-market," says James Glattfelder.

"Our analysis is reality-based, "he said, as cited by the weekly.




http://rt.com/news/global-elite-economy-conspiracy-427/


so what are you going to do about it?

stand on the side of the road holding a sign?


More to the point, do you agree or disagree?


i agree that someone or better yet, something is controlling things on a global level. as to who or what, i have no clue...

InvictusV's photo
Fri 04/13/12 03:29 PM



Bank of America Corporation,
Morgan Stanley,
Goldman Sachs Group Inc,
Merrill Lynch & Co Inc,
JP Morgan Chase & Co

were included among the top 25.
Quick to dismiss criticism that they are merely concocting another conspiracy theory,
Glattfelder insists that their research is evidence-based.
"Reality is so complex, we must move away from dogma,
whether it's conspiracy theories or free-market," says James Glattfelder.

"Our analysis is reality-based, "he said, as cited by the weekly.




http://rt.com/news/global-elite-economy-conspiracy-427/


so what are you going to do about it?

stand on the side of the road holding a sign?


More to the point, do you agree or disagree?


No I don't agree..

These banks have shareholders. I own shares in some of these banks. Most anyone that has a retirement account or mutual fund owns shares in these banks.

This isn't one or two people that control the bank and have ownership of it's assets.

Governments are the problem and they control things.. Goldman Sachs doesn't collect $2.5 trillion in revenue every single year while producing nothing.

Think about that.




Optomistic69's photo
Fri 04/13/12 04:22 PM
What does Goldman Sachs produce?

s1owhand's photo
Fri 04/13/12 04:34 PM
laugh

A conspiracy theory explains an event as being the result of an
alleged plot by a covert group or organization or, more broadly, the
idea that important political, social or economic events are the
products of secret plots that are largely unknown to the general
public.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory

For some individuals, an obsessive compulsion to believe, prove, or
re-tell a conspiracy theory may indicate one or a combination of
well-understood psychological conditions, and other hypothetical ones:
paranoia, denial, schizophrenia, mean world syndrome.[35]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories

The list of conspiracy theories is a collection of the most popular unproven theories related but not limited to clandestine government plans, elaborate murder plots, suppression of secret technology and knowledge, and other supposed schemes behind certain political, cultural, and historical events. They did not have any link to the actual incidents. Some theories are meant to cover up the accusers' own schemes, such as Holocaust denial. Most of them are imaginary works of some people.

Conspiracy theories usually go against a consensus or cannot be proven using the historical method and are typically not considered to be similar to verified conspiracies such as Germany's pretense for invading Poland in World War II.

Contents
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* 1 New World Order
o 1.1 Federal Reserve System
* 2 False flag operations
* 3 Wars
* 4 Coups d'état
* 5 Assassinations and other deaths
* 6 US Presidency
o 6.1 Clinton Body Count
o 6.2 Barack Obama birth conspiracy theories
* 7 Ethnicity, race and religion
o 7.1 Jewish conspiracy theories
o 7.2 Armenian International Conspiracy
o 7.3 "Babylon" and racist oppression
o 7.4 Eurabia
o 7.5 Arab-fascist axis
o 7.6 Baha'i
o 7.7 Apocalyptic prophecies
o 7.8 Bible conspiracy theory
o 7.9 Catholicism as a veiled continuation of Babylonian paganism
* 8 Technology and weapons
o 8.1 Suppression of technologies
o 8.2 Development of weapons technology
o 8.3 Weapons testing
o 8.4 Surveillance, espionage and intelligence agencies
* 9 Media
o 9.1 DTV Transition
* 10 Medicine
o 10.1 Drug legalization
o 10.2 Diet
o 10.3 Creation of diseases
o 10.4 Water fluoridation
o 10.5 Traditional, natural and alternative medicines
* 11 Peak oil
* 12 Real groups said to be involved in conspiracies
o 12.1 Alleged groups associated with conspiracy theories
o 12.2 The Plan
* 13 Paranormal activity
o 13.1 Extraterrestrials
o 13.2 Evil aliens
* 14 Miscellaneous
* 15 See also
* 16 References
* 17 Further reading

[edit] New World Order
Main article: New World Order (conspiracy)

This conspiracy theory states that a group of international elites controls and manipulates governments, industry, and media organizations worldwide. The primary tool they use to dominate nations is the system of central banking. They are said to have funded and in some cases caused most of the major wars of the last 200 years, carry out false flag attacks to manipulate populations into supporting them, and they have a grip on the world economy, deliberately causing inflation and depressions at will. Operatives working for the New World Order are said to be placed in high positions in government and industry.

Optomistic69's photo
Fri 04/13/12 05:12 PM
One question not answered by the study is just how much political power the financial elite are able to wield. John Driffill, a macroeconomics expert at the University of London, told the New Scientist that the interests of 147 companies would most likely be too diverse to sustain collusion.
But while the capitalist network which controls our economy might not be an active conspiracy, they will inevitably have some interests that correspond. The desire to fight any attempts to regulate the network most likely remains a point they can all agree on

no photo
Fri 04/13/12 05:30 PM
What exactly is being claimed here?

I don't think its a wing nut conspiracy theory just to suggest that a smallish number of people wield an incredible amount of power.


USmale47374's photo
Fri 04/13/12 05:47 PM
Anyone with even a basic knowledge of economics and world affairs knows that the wealthy have far too much influence over governmental affairs. Much like Russia used to be pre-1917, and well all know that those who fail to remember the past are doomed to repeat it, don't we?

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Fri 04/13/12 07:51 PM
[edit] New World Order
Main article: New World Order (conspiracy)

This conspiracy theory states that a group of international elites controls and manipulates governments, industry, and media organizations worldwide. The primary tool they use to dominate nations is the system of central banking. They are said to have funded and in some cases caused most of the major wars of the last 200 years, carry out false flag attacks to manipulate populations into supporting them, and they have a grip on the world economy, deliberately causing inflation and depressions at will. Operatives working for the New World Order are said to be placed in high positions in government and industry.


Okay, so that is a conspiracy theory because is hypothesizes a secret organization, with operatives out there in the world doing the bidding of a centralized authority.

Just because that particular spin on the notion is a conspiracy theory, doesn't undermine the idea that a very few people have an astounding amount of control and influence.

Certain subsets of those very few people are actually members of private organizations...like...I dunno.... yacht clubs and such. They don't hold secret meetings planning world domination, but they might chat about elections and investments and they may influence each others decisions. And I'm sure they often find themselves having co-aligned interests causing them to work in such a way that it appears to outsiders like its choreographed. It's not choreographed. Its just what like-minded people do.


mightymoe's photo
Fri 04/13/12 08:17 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Fri 04/13/12 08:18 PM

One question not answered by the study is just how much political power the financial elite are able to wield. John Driffill, a macroeconomics expert at the University of London, told the New Scientist that the interests of 147 companies would most likely be too diverse to sustain collusion.
But while the capitalist network which controls our economy might not be an active conspiracy, they will inevitably have some interests that correspond. The desire to fight any attempts to regulate the network most likely remains a point they can all agree on


one thing i have read around, is that some ceo's and board members are also board members of other major corporations, so that 1 person maybe on maybe 5 different boards of different corporations... if that is the case, i can see how they can control the economics to a degree...

s1owhand's photo
Sat 04/14/12 12:24 AM

[edit] New World Order
Main article: New World Order (conspiracy)

This conspiracy theory states that a group of international elites controls and manipulates governments, industry, and media organizations worldwide. The primary tool they use to dominate nations is the system of central banking. They are said to have funded and in some cases caused most of the major wars of the last 200 years, carry out false flag attacks to manipulate populations into supporting them, and they have a grip on the world economy, deliberately causing inflation and depressions at will. Operatives working for the New World Order are said to be placed in high positions in government and industry.


Okay, so that is a conspiracy theory because is hypothesizes a secret organization, with operatives out there in the world doing the bidding of a centralized authority.

Just because that particular spin on the notion is a conspiracy theory, doesn't undermine the idea that a very few people have an astounding amount of control and influence.

Certain subsets of those very few people are actually members of private organizations...like...I dunno.... yacht clubs and such. They don't hold secret meetings planning world domination, but they might chat about elections and investments and they may influence each others decisions. And I'm sure they often find themselves having co-aligned interests causing them to work in such a way that it appears to outsiders like its choreographed. It's not choreographed. Its just what like-minded people do.




laugh

1. Yes there are powerful people. Yes there are rich people.
They attend social functions, eat at restaurants and many of
them have been shown to use the same toilets!
So what big deal. What is claimed by Opto among others is that
there is an unprovable wing nut global conspiracy in the classical
version of that delusion exactly as described in books on the
subject of "Classic Conspiracy Theories" and in the Wiki.

laugh

Ooooo Ooooo Ooooo!!

laugh


InvictusV's photo
Sat 04/14/12 01:39 AM

What does Goldman Sachs produce?


credit.. and without it the world grinds to a halt..

Optomistic69's photo
Sat 04/14/12 02:47 AM


What does Goldman Sachs produce?


credit.. and without it the world grinds to a halt..


Is this the same Goldman Sachs that were involved in the Greek cover-up from the EU and led Greece to the brink of Bankruptcy.?

Is this the same Goldman Sachs that have been involved in the Bush and Obama Administrations?

Is this the same Goldman Sachs that has perfected insider Trading?

shall I go on?

The World can do without Goldman Sachs tomorrow morning

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 04/14/12 02:55 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 04/14/12 03:02 AM

Bank of America Corporation,
Morgan Stanley,
Goldman Sachs Group Inc,
Merrill Lynch & Co Inc,
JP Morgan Chase & Co

were included among the top 25.
Quick to dismiss criticism that they are merely concocting another conspiracy theory,
Glattfelder insists that their research is evidence-based.
"Reality is so complex, we must move away from dogma,
whether it's conspiracy theories or free-market," says James Glattfelder.

"Our analysis is reality-based, "he said, as cited by the weekly.




http://rt.com/news/global-elite-economy-conspiracy-427/
thank God it's not a Conspiracy,just Control by an Elite!
You had me scared there for a minute!:laughing:

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 04/14/12 03:01 AM



What does Goldman Sachs produce?


credit.. and without it the world grinds to a halt..


Is this the same Goldman Sachs that were involved in the Greek cover-up from the EU and led Greece to the brink of Bankruptcy.?

Is this the same Goldman Sachs that have been involved in the Bush and Obama Administrations?

Is this the same Goldman Sachs that has perfected insider Trading?

shall I go on?

The World can do without Goldman Sachs tomorrow morning
you forgot Uncle Soros in your List!
Besides,Goldman Sachs acted on behalf of the crooked Greek Politicians,who are blameless,of Course,since the Bankers acted on their behalf!:laughing:

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 04/14/12 03:04 AM

Anyone with even a basic knowledge of economics and world affairs knows that the wealthy have far too much influence over governmental affairs. Much like Russia used to be pre-1917, and well all know that those who fail to remember the past are doomed to repeat it, don't we?
Russia was a Monarchy,and Feudalist still to a large extent in '17!

InvictusV's photo
Sat 04/14/12 03:21 AM



What does Goldman Sachs produce?


credit.. and without it the world grinds to a halt..


Is this the same Goldman Sachs that were involved in the Greek cover-up from the EU and led Greece to the brink of Bankruptcy.?

Is this the same Goldman Sachs that have been involved in the Bush and Obama Administrations?

Is this the same Goldman Sachs that has perfected insider Trading?

shall I go on?

The World can do without Goldman Sachs tomorrow morning


acting in coordination with the greek government..

acting in coordination with the american government..

you see a theme here?

GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM... TOO MUCH POWER... IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE GOVERNMENTS ABSOLUTE POWER THIS WOULD NOT BE HAPPENING..

THE FREE MARKET SYSTEM WOULD HAVE SWALLOWED UP THESE BANKS, BUT THE GOVERNMENTS AROUND THE WORLD BAILED THESE BANKS OUT..

OPEN YOUR EYES..


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