Topic: Is Monsanto trying to reduce the population..
Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 05/28/13 12:29 PM

The sleeping giant (John Q Public) is awakening under all the political scandal and lack of representation in DC (definitely corrupt) of late.

The problem is, as with most awaking from a long sleep, it takes quite a few cups of coffee before reality sets in. Hopefully it will be before the 2014 elections (or they collapse our economy, declare martial law, give Obozo, the banks and corporations dictatorial powers))or it may be too late!

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 05/29/13 06:10 AM

Putin Warns Obama....STOP MONSANTO! It's destroying our ability to feed the nations of the world!

http://topinfopost.com/2013/05/28/russia-warns-obama-monsanto

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Wed 05/29/13 06:54 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Wed 05/29/13 07:21 AM
Sorcha Faal monsanto


http://www.google.ch/search?q=Sorcha+Faal+monsanto&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&client=firefox-a&oq=Sorcha+Faal+monsanto&gs_l=heirloom-serp.12...17997.21415.0.24761.9.3.0.6.0.0.259.600.0j2j1.3.0...0.0...1ac.1.12.heirloom-serp.bxgtzfX8Tzg

some strange goings on!
Seems someone is actively publishing things in slanted ways,for whatever purpose only they know!

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_autor_booth.htm


wouldn't you know it,some fine Skullduggery involved again!laugh

it is strange that this Bee-Story is being bounced back and forth between two faceless "News-Agencies"!
Wonder when ENENews will enter the fray!

Someone is trying to light a Fire!


Either way,Congress needs to repeal that Monsanto Protection Act yesterday!

Doubtless those Insecticides are killing not only the Bees,but many other Insects along with them!

The Virus that got introduced by Bees brought in from Australia,along with those Poisons,plus the way Bees are being used these days has to spell Disaster!
In the past,Beehives were stationed locally,now Beekepers bring hundreds of Hives on a Trailer,let the Bees do their business for some days,then pack them up,and drive them to another Location to repeat the same!
No one can tell me this wouldn't add considerable stress to a Bee-Population that is already stressed to the maximum by Disease,Parasites and newfangled Insecticides!

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Wed 05/29/13 09:32 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 05/29/13 09:39 AM
Hungary torches 500 hectares of GM corn to eradicate GMOs from food supply

http://www.naturalnews.com/040525_Hungary_GM_corn_burning_fields.html

UM Researchers Warn of Seed Contamination

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0219-06.htm

http://foodmatters.tv/articles-1/the-truth-is-out-on-genetically-modified-foods-and-its-not-pretty

http://www.ijbs.com/v05p0706.htm

GM corn variety 'cannot be regarded as safe': Author of study linking food to cancer issues new attack

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2236219/GM-corn-variety-regarded-safe-Dr-Gilles-Eric-S-ralini-hits-critics.html

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Wed 05/29/13 10:08 AM

I posted this in an earlier thread.

The powers that be have corrupted the courts/judges to basicly shield Monsanto from any prosecution while giving them the rights to destroy farmers entire crops, eliminating their possibility of income and seize their property, and placing them in debt to the banks for loans they can't repay from these actions.

Pure evil indeed!

http://www.globalresearch.ca/illinois-illegally-seizes-bees-resistant-to-monsantos-roundup-kills-remaining-queens/5336210

Without the bees to pollinate them there are no crops but those that are Monsanto GMO based seed crops



Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 05/29/13 10:35 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 05/29/13 10:39 AM


Names of the 71 senators that betrayed the people and sold out to Monsanto

Here’s the list of the Monsanto 71:

Alexander (R-TN)
Ayotte (R-NH)
Baldwin (D-WI)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Baucus (D-MT)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Brown (D-OH)
Burr (R-NC)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Coons (D-DE)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Cowan (D-MA)
Crapo (R-ID)
Cruz (R-TX)
Donnelly (D-IN)
Durbin (D-IL)
Enzi (R-WY)
Fischer (R-NE)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hagan (D-NC)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Heitkamp (D-ND)
Heller (R-NV)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (D-SD)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kaine (D-VA)
Kirk (R-IL)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lee (R-UT)
Levin (D-MI)
McCain (R-AZ)
McCaskill (D-MO)
McConnell (R-KY)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Moran (R-KS)
Nelson (D-FL)
Paul (R-KY)
Portman (R-OH)
Pryor (D-AR)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rubio (R-FL)
Scott (R-SC)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Shelby (R-AL)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Thune (R-SD)
Toomey (R-PA)
Udall (D-CO)
Vitter (R-LA)
Warner (D-VA)
Warren (D-MA)
Wicker (R-MS)

http://www.hangthebankers.com/the-71-sellout-senators-named-that-sided-with-monsanto-on-the-gmo-labeling-bill/

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Thu 05/30/13 02:49 AM
Edited by JustDukkyMkII on Thu 05/30/13 03:00 AM
We can take down Monsanto tomorrow by getting their AGREEMENT that they are completely liable for damages that are even only REASONABLY SUSPECTED to be caused by their products owing to THEIR ABANDONMENT OF THE PRECAUTIONARY PRINCIPAL.

A few letters, or a letter drafted and signed by a significant number of people is all that is needed to start the process. As a result of documented harm caused by their products, they CANNOT DENY that they have abandoned the precautionary principle, and IF they have done so, it is logical to conclude that they have been GROSSLY NEGLIGENT and therefore LIABLE for any damages reasonably suspected to be caused as a result. Because they can't deny it, you can get their agreement that the mess is their fault, for which they MUST pay equitable compensation for any claims made against it owing to its negligence.

This doesn't have to go thru the courts, or result in any lawsuits. It forms the basis of a contractual agreement, wherein if they don't simply pay off, they can be sued as a deadbeat debtor for refusing to meet their contractual commitment.

There is a maxim in law that says "He who does not deny, admits." All you have to do is PRESUME (don't claim) that they have abandoned the precautionary principle, and show a little evidence to suggest that harm has resulted from that abandonment (and heaven knows what other damage might be in the offing if they continue). The aforementioned maxim can be employed to make Monsanto "testify" against and convict itself of wrongdoing by tacitly "admitting" to its crimes (by not denying them).

The first thing that will happen after you have Monsanto's agreement that it is liable for SUSPECTED damages is that the shareholders will jump ship immediately and the share value of the company will hit bottom and stay there...The creditors will force it into bankruptcy and the giant evil juggernaut that is Monsanto will wind up wiped from the pages of history.

"Never forget that a few dedicated citizens working to a common purpose can change the world; indeed it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead

A few dedicated people (and ducks) have already started changing the world, but we can always use a hand if you wanna help out.

Lawful presumption and the above maxim have been used against unsuspecting people for centuries; they are the "weapons" of choice for tyrants who wish to rule by deception. It has been used against YOU without your even knowing it. It has been used to bring the whole world almost to its knees with fraudulent debt. Don't you think it's time the people started using it to correct the imbalance of power?

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 05/30/13 02:54 AM


I posted this in an earlier thread.

The powers that be have corrupted the courts/judges to basicly shield Monsanto from any prosecution while giving them the rights to destroy farmers entire crops, eliminating their possibility of income and seize their property, and placing them in debt to the banks for loans they can't repay from these actions.

Pure evil indeed!

http://www.globalresearch.ca/illinois-illegally-seizes-bees-resistant-to-monsantos-roundup-kills-remaining-queens/5336210

Without the bees to pollinate them there are no crops but those that are Monsanto GMO based seed crops



seems there Bees days like this!bigsmile

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 05/30/13 02:57 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 05/30/13 03:14 AM

We can take down Monsanto tomorrow by getting their AGREEMENT that they are completely liable for damages that are even only REASONABLY SUSPECTED to be caused by their products owing to THEIR ABANDONMENT OF THE PRECAUTIONARY PRINCIPAL.

A few letters, or a letter drafted and signed by a significant number of people is all that is needed to start the process. As a result of documented harm caused by their products, they CANNOT DENY that they have abandoned the precautionary principle, and IF they have done so, it is logical to conclude that they have been GROSSLY NEGLIGENT and therefore LIABLE for any damages reasonably suspected to be caused as a result. Because they can't deny it, you can get their agreement that the mess is their fault, for which they MUST pay equitable compensation for any claims made against it owing to its negligence.

This doesn't have to go thru the courts, or result in any lawsuits. It forms the basis of a contractual agreement, wherein if they don't simply pay off, they can be sued as a deadbeat debtor for refusing to meet their contractual commitment.

There is a maxim in law that says "He who does not deny, admits." All you have to do is PRESUME (don't claim) that they have abandoned the precautionary principle, and show a little evidence to suggest that harm has resulted from that abandonment (and heaven knows what other damage might be in the offing if they continue). The aforementioned maxim can be employed to make Monsanto "testify" against and convict itself of wrongdoing, by tacitly "admitting" to its crimes (by not denying them).

The first thing that will happen after you have Monsanto's agreement that it is liable for SUSPECTED damages is that the shareholders will jump ship immediately and the share value of the company will hit bottom and stay there...The creditors will force it into bankruptcy and the giant evil juggernaut that is Monsanto will wind up wiped from the pages of history.
why don't you start the Proceedings if you think it is that easy!laugh

They have Political Backing,you don't!
And that is the damn Fly in the Ointment!
Need to remove that Fly first,and everything else will fall in place!

Until the Monsanto Protection Act is repealed,Monsanto has Immunity under the Law!
Besides,if someone claims to have been injured in any way by Monsanto Products,there has to be an Involvement by Courts,withe subsequent haggling by Oodles of Experts on both sides,and postponements ad Infinitum!
With that Act in place there is no way to get them!
Besides,Obama has appointed former Monsanto Executive strategically wherever there might be Trouble!
Monsanto would be Nobody without the Political Muscle behind it!

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Thu 05/30/13 03:11 AM
Edited by JustDukkyMkII on Thu 05/30/13 03:24 AM

why don't you start the Proceedings if you think it is that easy!


Don't worry...It's on the agenda, just behind fluoridation, but there are bigger fish to fry first... They are going in the pan right now.
:laughing:

Us ducks can do quite a bit on our own, but we can't cure all of the world's ills at once, so it would be nice to get a li'l help to accelerate the process...Otherwise it might take us a couple of years to clean up the mess you people made.


Until the Monsanto Protection Act is repealed,Monsanto has Immunity under the Law!
Besides,if someone claims to have been injured in any way by Monsanto Products,there has to be an Involvement by Courts,withe subsequent haggling by Oodles of Experts on both sides,and postponements ad Infinitum!
With that Act in place there is no way to get them!
Besides,Obama has appointed former Monsanto Executive strategically wherever there might be Trouble!
Monsanto would be Nobody without the Political Muscle behind it!


That's defeatism talking...Look at the assumptions you're making!

1) Monsanto has Immunity under the Law!
2) if someone claims to have been injured in any way by Monsanto Products,there has to be an Involvement by Courts
3) With that Act in place there is no way to get them!

1) Horsehockey!...They are NOT immune from the law...nobody is, most especially the "government" "granting " them that immunity.
2) Not if a contractual agreement exists to pay on damages
3) MY suggestion has nothing to do with lawsuits or claims against them, so that Act doesn't apply. Therefore there IS a way to get them...It is the way I have suggested.


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Thu 05/30/13 03:18 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 05/30/13 03:24 AM


why don't you start the Proceedings if you think it is that easy!


Don't worry...It's on the agenda, just behind fluoridation, but there are bigger fish to fry first... They are going in the pan right now.
:laughing:
keep on wishing!laugh

If you wish in one Hand,and Crap in the Other,which one will get full first?:laughing:
Your hand will stay pretty empty!:laughing: biggrin

all that's gonna happen is that you all wind up in Jail,without having achieved anything!
Remember OCCUPY?
Well,one Man profited from it,the same one who had started it through Adbusters!
Yep,Uncle George the Billionaire!The one who gets Pssed everytime someone makes more Money than him!

Now the same Skullduggery is happening again,and it again is NOT in the People's favour!

Let's hope your Dream doesn't turn into a Nightmare

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 05/30/13 03:29 AM



why don't you start the Proceedings if you think it is that easy!


Don't worry...It's on the agenda, just behind fluoridation, but there are bigger fish to fry first... They are going in the pan right now.
:laughing:
keep on wishing!laugh

If you wish in one Hand,and Crap in the Other,which one will get full first?:laughing:
Your hand will stay pretty empty!:laughing: biggrin

all that's gonna happen is that you all wind up in Jail,without having achieved anything!
Remember OCCUPY?
Well,one Man profited from it,the same one who had started it through Adbusters!
Yep,Uncle George the Billionaire!The one who gets Pssed everytime someone makes more Money than him!

Now the same Skullduggery is happening again,and it again is NOT in the People's favour!

Let's hope your Dream doesn't turn into a Nightmare
Remember what you all were going to do to Big Tobacco?
Well they are still here!
How come?
Political Backing,that's what!
That's what you need to remove,and the Boil will shrink to a Pimple!

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Thu 05/30/13 03:33 AM



why don't you start the Proceedings if you think it is that easy!


Don't worry...It's on the agenda, just behind fluoridation, but there are bigger fish to fry first... They are going in the pan right now.
:laughing:
keep on wishing!laugh

If you wish in one Hand,and Crap in the Other,which one will get full first?:laughing:
Your hand will stay pretty empty!:laughing: biggrin

all that's gonna happen is that you all wind up in Jail,without having achieved anything!
Remember OCCUPY?
Well,one Man profited from it,the same one who had started it through Adbusters!
Yep,Uncle George the Billionaire!The one who gets Pssed everytime someone makes more Money than him!

Now the same Skullduggery is happening again,and it again is NOT in the People's favour!

Let's hope your Dream doesn't turn into a Nightmare


The "impossible" can only accomplished by one of two kinds of people:
1) Those too dumb to know that it was
2) Those smart enough to know that it isn't.

Either way, the "impossible" will only be accomplished by those brave enough to try.

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 05/30/13 03:46 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 05/30/13 03:48 AM




why don't you start the Proceedings if you think it is that easy!


Don't worry...It's on the agenda, just behind fluoridation, but there are bigger fish to fry first... They are going in the pan right now.
:laughing:
keep on wishing!laugh

If you wish in one Hand,and Crap in the Other,which one will get full first?:laughing:
Your hand will stay pretty empty!:laughing: biggrin

all that's gonna happen is that you all wind up in Jail,without having achieved anything!
Remember OCCUPY?
Well,one Man profited from it,the same one who had started it through Adbusters!
Yep,Uncle George the Billionaire!The one who gets Pssed everytime someone makes more Money than him!

Now the same Skullduggery is happening again,and it again is NOT in the People's favour!

Let's hope your Dream doesn't turn into a Nightmare


The "impossible" can only accomplished by one of two kinds of people:
1) Those too dumb to know that it was
2) Those smart enough to know that it isn't.

Either way, the "impossible" will only be accomplished by those brave enough to try.

you just wagging your Bill,instead of thinking rationally!laugh
You're not up against Monsanto,but you are up against the Political Power of the US,with all its implications!
You really think Monsanto is worried about a couple of Ducks,when they have the power and protection of a Congresional Act behind them?

This is what you are up against!

http://eatlocalgrown.com/article/11524-the-monsanto-71-senators-who-betrayed-constituents-in-favor-of-biotech-dollars.html
A truly bi-Partisan Effort,ain't it?pitchfork



BTW,what is Canada doing about it?

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Thu 05/30/13 04:08 AM
Edited by JustDukkyMkII on Thu 05/30/13 04:53 AM

You really think Monsanto is worried about a couple of Ducks,when they have the power and protection of a Congresional Act behind them?

This is what you are up against!


I'm not up against anything. All I'm doing is using the law to get contractual agreements with counterparties. Are you trying to tell me that monsanto or a government would breach contracts or treaties it makes and get away with it?...They couldn't do that. The international laws of commerce laid down by the banks would prohibit that, so if I find any counterparty breaching their contract with me, I have the world's banks on my side (behind the scenes)!

They HAVE to support me, because contract law is what supports them, and if ANYONE can get away with breach of contract, then EVERYONE can get away with it and the entire world order would collapse into chaos (there would be no rule of law).

Still think I have no political clout?
:laughing:


BTW,what is Canada doing about it?


There is currently a lot of legal process going on behind the scenes in Canada. Keep your eye on the papers. I suspect that Harper will have to resign in disgrace over the Mike Duffy thing and that the last election will be declared null & void (owing to election fraud) which will force the nullification of all legislation passed into "law" since the election. IMO, things will only get better after that. It will probably be about 6 months before the canadian people take down Monsanto Canada (less if we get someone to start on it now), but that is no reason people in other jurisdictions can't start taking it down in their sphere's of influence right now.

Us ducks have to adhere to the "Prime Directive" and not clean up someone else's mess for them, so in order to clean up the planet and make it fit for living in, we have to act as consultants to human agents. Unfortunately almost all of you are too stupid to see what's going on, and that small segment that does, tends to be too mad about being screwed to do much except either b!tch about it, or turn terrorist. Neither of those is a terribly wise course of action, so we ducks are advising people to simply know who they are, to realize that the mightiest of governments is really your employee and a "person" in law which can be contracted with.

ADDENDUM:

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/non-approved-gmo-wheat-found-in-oregon-field/37222/

Now you know why Monsanto so desperately wanted the "Protect Monsanto Act" passed into "law."

No biggie...You can get their agreement that allowing it into the wild was an act of criminal negligence on their part, and further evidence that they have abandoned the precautionary principle.

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Thu 05/30/13 10:32 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 05/30/13 11:11 AM
The world according to Monsanto

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=N6_DbVdVo-k#!

Monsanto A Documentary on GMO a must watch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omtYlsG1P5U

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Thu 05/30/13 11:11 AM


30 May 2013 9:36 AM



Illegal Monsanto GMO wheat found in Oregon
By John Upton

Shutterstock
A farmer in Oregon found a patch of wheat growing like a weed where it wasn’t expected, so the farmer sprayed it with the herbicide Roundup. Surprisingly, some of the wheat survived.

The startled farmer sent samples of the renegade wheat to a laboratory, which confirmed something that should have been impossible: The wheat was a genetically engineered variety that had never been approved to be grown in the U.S., nor anywhere else in the world.


From The New York Times:

The Agriculture Department said the wheat was of the type developed by Monsanto to be resistant to the herbicide Roundup, also known as glyphosate. Such wheat was field-tested in 16 states, including Oregon, from 1998 through 2005, but Monsanto dropped the project before the wheat was ever approved for commercial planting.

The department said it was not known yet whether any of the wheat got into the food supply or into grain shipments. Even if it did, officials said, it would pose no threat to health. The Food and Drug Administration reviewed the wheat and found no safety problems with it in 2004.

Still, the mere presence of the genetically modified plant could cause some countries to turn away exports of American wheat, especially if any traces of the unapproved grain were found in shipments. About $8.1 billion in American wheat was exported in 2012, representing nearly half the total $17.9 billion crop, according to U.S. Wheat Associates, which promotes American wheat abroad. About 90 percent of Oregon’s wheat crop is exported.

It’s not clear when the discovery was made. In a statement on its website, Monsanto said it was contacted by the U.S. Department of Agriculture regarding its investigation “earlier this month.” The USDA announced the discovery on Wednesday and said nine investigators are trying to figure out how the freak wheat wound up growing on the unnamed farmer’s land. Reuters reports that there were eight field trials of Monsanto’s GMO wheat in Oregon from 1999 to 2001.

While the federal government and agriculture industry scramble to investigate and manage fallout from the escaped wheat strain, there is one company that doesn’t seem too concerned. You can guess who that might be. From a statement posted on Monsanto’s website:

Over the past decade, an annual average of 58 million acres of wheat have been planted in the United States. This is the first report of the Roundup Ready trait being found out of place since Monsanto’s commercial wheat development program was discontinued nine years ago. …

Accordingly, while USDA’s results are unexpected, there is considerable reason to believe that the presence of the Roundup Ready trait in wheat, if determined to be valid, is very limited.

Well, if it’s “very limited,” then, I suppose there’s no need for concern. Try telling that to America’s wheat trading partners.

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Thu 05/30/13 11:18 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 05/30/13 11:19 AM




why don't you start the Proceedings if you think it is that easy!


Don't worry...It's on the agenda, just behind fluoridation, but there are bigger fish to fry first... They are going in the pan right now.
:laughing:
keep on wishing!laugh

If you wish in one Hand,and Crap in the Other,which one will get full first?:laughing:
Your hand will stay pretty empty!:laughing: biggrin

all that's gonna happen is that you all wind up in Jail,without having achieved anything!
Remember OCCUPY?
Well,one Man profited from it,the same one who had started it through Adbusters!
Yep,Uncle George the Billionaire!The one who gets Pssed everytime someone makes more Money than him!

Now the same Skullduggery is happening again,and it again is NOT in the People's favour!

Let's hope your Dream doesn't turn into a Nightmare
Remember what you all were going to do to Big Tobacco?
Well they are still here!
How come?
Political Backing,that's what!
That's what you need to remove,and the Boil will shrink to a Pimple!



Tobacco is still here because there is a demand for it. People want it. They are addicted.

Nobody wants genetically modified food.

Monsanto is going down.

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Thu 05/30/13 11:23 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 05/30/13 11:24 AM
Here in Baca County a big corporation planted fields and fields of GMO corn, not caring if the company made any money at all. They did not manage it well, and they hired a bunch of losers and drunks to work there and spent money like it was growing on trees. Then the company just seemed to go belly up and left the corn in the fields.

I don't know what was going on with that. Weird to say the least.

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Thu 05/30/13 11:25 AM

Jon Stewarts take on it.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K4pfiYK2IQ