Topic: Climate Change... it's really heating up!
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Sun 05/18/14 07:21 PM
Edited by alnewman on Sun 05/18/14 07:24 PM

Climate Change Will Hurt Nations' Credit Ratings, S&P Warns

www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/17/climate-change-credit-ratings_n_5344078.html

Well, this is one side of climate change I hadn't thought about yet. But it makes perfect sense.

If the weather prevents us from being able to make a living and paying our bills on time quite naturally our credit ratings will be an added crippling factor to our lives spinning out of control.

OUCH! There's just no end to the damage that the unusual change in weather patterns can create.


Why not, the banks don't steal enough. And to imagine their are a whole mass of idiots that will believe this. Too bad about all those poor countries that will get poorer. Well I guess that means more job losses in the declining to third world status countries, hey that's the US.

And then there will be all those ignorant beings that help to support all this trash that will be standing around wondering where there job went, well Al Gore collected it in taxes.

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Sun 05/18/14 08:20 PM

Countdown to oblivion: The real reason we can’t stop global warming

www.salon.com/2014/05/18/countdown_to_oblivion_the_real_reason_we_cant_stop_global_warming/

There was a time when the environmental damage we produced remained somewhat localized, confined to specific places. That time is gone.

Today, nonindustrial areas, such as Greenland and the Antarctic, experience the industrial pollution generated in the United States and in Russia, to mention just two countries.

Damage produced in particular sites now scales up, driven by the vastness of destruction, and becomes a planetary problem that drifts back down to hit even those places that did not contribute to the damage.

Greenhouse gases (including carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, and particulate matter such as black carbon) are key causes of climate change.

Diverse measures arrive at an estimate that human activity has generated 350 billion tonnes of carbon since 1959; 55 percent of this has been taken up by the oceans and land, and the rest has been left in the atmosphere.

In 2009 alone, global carbon dioxide emissions totaled 30 billion tonnes.

By 2011, annual emissions had increased by 5.3 percent to 31.6 billion tonnes.

And by early 2013, the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere surpassed the critical level of 400 parts per million. This is a level not seen on earth since the Pliocene era 3 million years ago.

Under current conditions, global CO2 emissions (including emissions related to deforestation) will reach 41 billion tonnes per year in 2020.

The EPA estimates that industrial emissions account for 50 percent of greenhouse gases emitted in the United States, and industry is almost certainly responsible for an even higher proportion of China'€™s huge and growing emissions.

At this scale, and with the relationship of carbon dioxide to climate change, industrial pollution is a driver of massive global problems.

One major effect is rising land temperature.

The numbers for the current warming phase are extreme compared to the available historical records.

May 2012 was €œthe 327th consecutive month in which the temperature of the entire globe exceeded the 20th-century average,€ writes Bill McKibben.

The spring of 2012 was the hottest ever, and marked the biggest difference with the average seasonal temperature recorded for any season.

In the United States, the month of June 2012 broke 3,215 heat records across the country, and May 2012 was the warmest May in the country'€™s recorded history.

There are debates and disagreements about the precise rate, timing, and level of increase. But very diverse types of studies all document this upward trend.




Another totally flawed source, a true globalist with Agenda 21 traits in every work.


Saskia Sassen is the Robert S. Lynd Professor of Sociology and Co-Chair, The Committee on Global Thought, Columbia University (www.saskiasassen.com). Her recent books are Territory, Authority, Rights: From Medieval to Global Assemblages ( Princeton University Press 2008), A Sociology of Globalization (W.W.Norton 2007), and the 4th fully updated edition of Cities in a World Economy (Sage 2012). Among older books is The Global City (Princeton University Press 1991/2001). Her books are translated into over 20 languages. Her forthcoming book is Expulsions: Brutality and Complexity in the Global Economy (Harvard University Press 2014). She has received diverse awards, from multiple doctor honoris causa to being chosen as one of the Top 100 Global Thinkers by Foreign Policy and receiving the 2013 winner of the Principe de Asturias Prize for the Social Sciences.


And as for the excerpt used in the article, here is the reviews of the actual book:


In this intellectually audacious and persuasive book, Sassen exposes the fundamental forces at play in current forms of economic, political, and social structures. She correctly contrasts the world as most people understand it with the world as it is actually evolving, towards an extreme form of capitalism with activities that occur across international borders—to devastating effects. This is a powerful, highly relevant, and timely book. (Patricia Fernández-Kelly, Princeton University)

Expulsions is original, thoughtful, evidence-based, and chillingly lucid. There is no other book like it. Its arguments on growing inequality, land grabs, financial footlooseness, and biospheric destruction are a diagnosis of our unstable and disconcerting times—a much-needed wake-up call. (Ash Amin, University of Cambridge)

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Sun 05/18/14 08:23 PM

in 22 years something is going on. we have found cities all around the oceans coasts where civilizations once were. seems as if the oceans rose. whatever u want to say is going on we have defiant data that the polar caps are melting. and very fast. this video show just since 1980. and we know every year they are melting more. do you not believe the oceans could rise and displace millions and millions of people? ice does not melt from cold weather.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cujoirSratU


Another NASA propaganda film.

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Mon 05/19/14 02:39 AM

in 22 years something is going on. we have found cities all around the oceans coasts where civilizations once were. seems as if the oceans rose. whatever u want to say is going on we have defiant data that the polar caps are melting. and very fast. this video show just since 1980. and we know every year they are melting more. do you not believe the oceans could rise and displace millions and millions of people? ice does not melt from cold weather.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cujoirSratU


"Unstoppable" Antarctic Ice Melt Affects Southern California`s Climate

news.yahoo.com/video/unstoppable-antarctic-ice-melt-affects-064239353.html

Yes, I do believe that climate change leading to unusual melting ice and snow does increase the ocean rise onto land. It might not be in our lifetime but when the United States begins to really experience the adverse affects of climate system change that can no longer be denied all the debates and denial occurring now will be changed to "WTF do we do now?" type debates.

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Mon 06/02/14 01:17 PM
Broad Concern about Global Warming Boosts Support for New EPA Regulations

abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/06/broad-concern-about-global-warming-boosts-support-for-new-epa-regulations/

Seven in 10 Americans see global warming as a serious problem facing the country, enough to fuel broad support for federal efforts to limit greenhouse gas emissions – even if it raises their own energy costs, a new ABC News/Washington Post poll finds.

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Mon 06/02/14 01:39 PM
linear projections of a cyclical weather system: much like interpreting the temperature increase from February to July as undeniable proof that December will see highs of 170 F�

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Mon 06/02/14 01:42 PM
http://notrickszone.com/2014/05/02/spiegel-on-antaractic-sea-ice-never-before-has-there-been-so-much-ice-at-this-time-of-year-since-meaurements-began/

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Mon 06/02/14 01:45 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Mon 06/02/14 01:45 PM
Scientists: Sun's approaching 'Grand Cooling" assures new Ice Age

February 18, 2011

NASA and the ESA agree, and so does the Russian space agency, Roscosmos,the sun is headed for a Grand Solar Minimum and a Grand Cooling will commence.

The aptly named Grand Cooling is exactly what it implies: the sun is going to cool. That cooling will also cool off the Earth. It will last from 30 to 50 years.

What exactly does global cooling mean? Well for one, Al Gore was sure wrong! The Earth isn't going to warm, it's going to get colder. Much colder. So cold a little or full-blown Ice Age will ensue. As a matter of fact, some scientists claim we're already in the early stages of an Ice Age.
Maybe the Nobel Committee and the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences should ask Mr. Gore to return his awards.

Dutch Professor Cees de Jager, a prominent astronomer and solar expert, forcefully asserts that we the world is indeed entering for a long period of very low solar activity. The professor and his colleagues are certain Earth is heading for a "long Grand Minimum",defined as either a Solar Wolf-Gleissberg or a Maunder Minimum",not shorter than a century." His 2010 paper, "The forthcoming Grand Minimum of solar activity," outlined the extended period of time that the diminished solar radiation would affect the Earth.

The Maunder minimum lasted from 1645 to 1715. It was marked by a period of general cooling over the entire planet. The Minimum coincided with the coldest year of the Little Ice Age.

The astronomer, formerly the head of the Utrecht University Observatory in the Netherlands, has laid out the basis for the upcoming Ice Age.

Another very respected scientist, the late Dr. Theodor Landscheid, founder of the Schroeter Institute for Research in Cycles of Solar Activity in Waldmuenchen, Germany, was considered a giant in the field of climate research.

A prodigious author of many research papers, leader of studies, and the author of several books, Landscheidt investigated the Gleissberg Minimum. He rejected the now proven flawed science of anthropogenic global warming and even the concept of long-term global warming itself.

"Contrary to the IPCC's speculation about man-made global warming as high as 5.8° C within the next hundred years," he said, "a long period of cool climate with its coldest phase around 2030 is to be expected."

Referring to the sun's cycles, he pointed to their correlation with other periods of prehistory when ice spread across the northern hemisphere. "It can be seen that the Gleissberg minimum around 2030 and another one around 2200 will be of the Maunder Minimum type accompanied by severe cooling on Earth."

A few of the doctor's many papers on the sun's relation to Earth's climate include "Solar activity: A dominant factor in climate dynamics," and "New confirmation of strong solar forcing of climate." Both show the sun's relationship to Earth's climate and abrupt changes in that climate during periods of transition from warming to cooling and back to warming.

It is unfortunate that Al Gore's inconvenient truth turned out to be a fallacy. Global warming is much preferable to the climate the Earth actually seems on the verge of slipping into within a few short years.

Depending on the severity of the Ice Age, agriculture could be severely affected and millions could perish.

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Mon 06/02/14 02:43 PM
An Entire Island Nation Is Vanishing Because Of Global Warming

www.businessinsider.com/pacific-island-nation-kiribati-sinking-2014-5


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Mon 06/02/14 04:18 PM

Climate Change 2013 Working Group I:

The Physical Science Basis

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yiTZm0y1YA

Global warming and it's natural and adverse affects on our environments and subsequent economy is a subject I'm interested in.

When I look to the media for news and information I see clear data supporting facts that human beings are assisting in the evolution of our climate system by the release of green house gasses (carbon dioxide) into our atmosphere.

Almost nonstop there are massive disasters occurring more rapidly and abundantly somewhere around the world that takes human lives and can cost millions/billions in damages.

I personally believe that some of these disasters are rooted in and resulting from man-made climate change. Therefore, I'm creating this thread for all those who believe and agree that climate change is adversely affecting our earth overall so we can post our views in support of this topic.


This is about the umpteenth time this thread has been created over the past month and with the same tired and false flag assumptions.

But if you would like to make your contributions to lessening carbon dioxide, donate all your stuff to Al Gore, he needs another billion, and then stop breathing, one person less carbon dioxide contribution.

You can personally believe anything your little heart desires, doesn't really change things though. Sort of like all those Jews that believed it was for their own good that they received that all expense paid trip to the wonderful resort village of Auschwitz.

And when you get an education and obtain an advanced degree in climate science or geology, come on back and let us know how much it cost for the government to buy you off.

Plane of effects (Physical World), is where manifested realities have formed due to their underlying causes. The plane of effects constitutes that which has already occurred, as such no power to affect change lies here, because that which has already occurred cannot un-occur; it has become that which is (truth). Human consciousness seems to be "trapped" upon the plane of effects, meaning that humanity, as a whole, remains ignorant of the underlying causes which they themselves set into motion and which lead to self-inflicted suffering in their lives.

But to start, do you even understand the plane of effects, much less how to escape this plane?

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Mon 06/02/14 04:29 PM
Edited by alnewman on Mon 06/02/14 04:57 PM


in 22 years something is going on. we have found cities all around the oceans coasts where civilizations once were. seems as if the oceans rose. whatever u want to say is going on we have defiant data that the polar caps are melting. and very fast. this video show just since 1980. and we know every year they are melting more. do you not believe the oceans could rise and displace millions and millions of people? ice does not melt from cold weather.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cujoirSratU


"Unstoppable" Antarctic Ice Melt Affects Southern California`s Climate

news.yahoo.com/video/unstoppable-antarctic-ice-melt-affects-064239353.html

Yes, I do believe that climate change leading to unusual melting ice and snow does increase the ocean rise onto land. It might not be in our lifetime but when the United States begins to really experience the adverse affects of climate system change that can no longer be denied all the debates and denial occurring now will be changed to "WTF do we do now?" type debates.


Another great NASA propaganda film. Do you have anything that is not IPCC or NASA, same thing by the way, government predestined paid results.

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Mon 06/02/14 04:32 PM
Video brought to you by a group that is convinced that climate change is happening. Biased video is Biased.

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Mon 06/02/14 04:34 PM

Broad Concern about Global Warming Boosts Support for New EPA Regulations

abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/06/broad-concern-about-global-warming-boosts-support-for-new-epa-regulations/

Seven in 10 Americans see global warming as a serious problem facing the country, enough to fuel broad support for federal efforts to limit greenhouse gas emissions – even if it raises their own energy costs, a new ABC News/Washington Post poll finds.


8 in 10 Americans are part of the ignorant masses and believe anything they are told.And if you take a survey around liberal college students, most will sign a petition on approval of 4th trimester abortions.

Of course ABC would support those wanting to have new regulations, they should have used NBC, probably could have gotten 9 out of 10 of what little viewers they still have remaining.

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Mon 06/02/14 04:56 PM

An Entire Island Nation Is Vanishing Because Of Global Warming

www.businessinsider.com/pacific-island-nation-kiribati-sinking-2014-5




Same ole IPCC data, nothing new, same liars.

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Mon 06/02/14 07:33 PM
I totally agree climate change is real, it also isn't new and it's part of a natural cycle, possibly/probably accelerated by mankind but still a natural cycle that will revert.
The little ice age by Brian Fagan is a fascinating read on the subject.

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Mon 06/02/14 08:50 PM
It's been getting cooler for 18 years more lies from the elitists who want to bring on more taxes

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Tue 06/03/14 07:27 AM

Anything to push a new tax and more control!

Enter Agenda 21 and Cap and Trade!

Bet ole Al Gore checks his bank account and smiles daily since the new law!

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Tue 06/03/14 06:17 PM

Video brought to you by a group that is convinced that climate change is happening. Biased video is Biased.


But that isn't even the half of it, rumor has it that a recent survey (rumor because not at hand and too lazy to go look), that 66% of the people interviewed during a study in the US believed in Moral Relativism, the idea that there is no inherent and objective difference between right and wrong, so humanity may arbitrarily "create" or "decide" right and wrong for themselves.

Psychologist long ago discovered that by reducing the masses to Moral Relativism, then the concept of what is conceived as "right" or "wrong" could easily be controlled.

This concept can be no better demonstrated than this whole "man-made" climate change fiasco. And just who better to control all this than a government full of psychopathic statist with an unlimited budget fulled by run-away presses and fiat currency. All the scientist not agreeing just lose their grants, shame they would then have to get a job and stop sucking off the taxpayers teets.

And what does the government get, why control over another segments of the slaves lives, not to mention tons of money over all these new taxes. It should be that money that is the dead give away, but the ignorant masses can't see past the next freebie.

Sort of like that turtle thing out in Nevada, to save the turtles they need to increase fees but when then the turtles need to be killed because not enough money to care for them.

The second hint that totally escapes the idiots that keep posting this trash is the whole carbon policy. To add a fairly punitive tax, not to prevent carbon release, but to be able to trade carbon emissions for enormous amounts of money. Just because all the electrical plants must close or spend a lot of money to convert to natural gas, at the cost of destruction of our water supply is never considered. I mean none of these idiots paid any attention when Odumbo even stated in very plain English that electric power will become unaffordable.

So I guess there will be a lot of frozen idiots as the climate goes into its cold cycle, can't burn any carbon fuel and electric not affordable.

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Tue 06/03/14 06:19 PM


Anything to push a new tax and more control!

Enter Agenda 21 and Cap and Trade!

Bet ole Al Gore checks his bank account and smiles daily since the new law!


Yeah, he always wanted to be a member of the billionaire club just had trouble finding his scam until now. He enjoys his new club, courtesy of the ignorant masses, they starve and freeze, he basks in glory.

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Mon 06/09/14 02:19 AM
Militaries Know That The Arctic Is Melting — Here's How They're Taking Advantage

finance.yahoo.com/news/militaries-know-arctic-melting-heres-130246417.html

The Arctic summer sea ice is melting rapidly

Wildly rich
The region is stocked with valuable oil, gas, mineral, and fishery reserves. The U.S. estimates that a significant proportion of the Earth's untapped petroleum including about 15% of the world's remaining oil, up to 30% of its natural gas deposits, and about 20% of its liquefied natural gas are stored in the Arctic seabed.

whoa

Regardless to the true CAUSE of climate change, weather its man made or mother nature made, WTF is going to happen to our EARTH when we've finally depleted ALL our natural resources?

Where do we go then? Who and what do we blame then?