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Topic: A Case For Impeachment
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Fri 06/06/14 07:45 PM

You realize Clinton WAS convicted of perjury. He lost his law license for a certain amount of time and can NEVER practice law in front of the Supreme Court.


And that would be absolutely wrong, he was never convicted of anything, closest he ever came was contempt for lying on the Paula Jones thing but that whole matter was dismissed by the judge, no convictions whatsoever.

And practice law, he has been doing that his whole life, even now.

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Fri 06/06/14 07:53 PM

I have a question here. If Barack Obama released terorists to bring home a deserter it sounds like he is in league with enemies of the state? Am I missing something here?


Yes, that this country doesn't have a conscious any more, all courtesy of the ignorant masses.

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Fri 06/06/14 08:23 PM


The truth of the matter is that a POTUS doesn't need to break the law to be impeached. His actions can be called into question and impeachment implemented on a simple belief his policies can cause harm to the general public he represents. It DOES NOT need to be criminal!


Sorry but that would not be true, the constitution is very clear that for impeachment, conviction based on "...Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

Even in the Clinton case, their was nothing but mockery of the whole proceeding as predicted by the founders themselves. This was one of the most debated items during the constitutional convention. But now with the system of checks and balances decimated, not a chance any president will ever get impeached.

First, the crap slinging starts"


With polls indicating that Clinton's job approval rating was holding steady at 60 percent amid a booming economy, and with most Americans disapproving of impeachment, Democrats now began a major push for an alternative to impeachment. They hoped for a congressional censure of the President that would reprimand him but leave him in office. However, their efforts got nowhere amid the fiercely partisan impeachment atmosphere in Congress.

Adding to the polarization, old rumors and allegations of marital infidelities came out of the woodwork against leading Republicans, including Speaker-designate Bob Livingston, who stunned his conservative colleagues when he admitted several marital indiscretions.


But even then the witch hunt leads to the Articles being Resolved, the Senate starts their grand show:

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In making their case against the President, House prosecutors accused Clinton of "willful, premeditated, deliberate corruption of the nation's system of justice through perjury and obstruction of justice." Clinton's lawyers countered: "The House Republicans' case ends as it began, an unsubstantiated, circumstantial case that does not meet the constitutional standard to remove the President from office."

Chief prosecutor Henry Hyde countered: "A failure to convict will make the statement that lying under oath, while unpleasant and to be avoided, is not all that serious...We have reduced lying under oath to a breach of etiquette, but only if you are the President...And now let us all take our place in history on the side of honor, and, oh, yes, let right be done."


And Henry Hyde was absolutely correct, all that really occurred was that the statist can not be brought to justice, no matter how bad it gets, back to square one, King George all over again, but this time instead of Royalist, we have the ignorant masses.

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Fri 06/06/14 08:58 PM

Rude, extremely rude would be ...


... not popular." - Carl Jung



Popular, the trait of those that choose to remain in ignorance that to face the truth, that trait that is so unpopular. The manta of those seeking popularity or not being able to face reality: If it's unpleasant, I don't what to hear it, I don't want to see it, and I certainly don't want to tell others about it, I'll just ignore it and it will go away.

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"Truth is belligerent. Truth is, by its very nature, at war with the forces of falsehood and deceit." - Bertolt Brecht


And I love your little cartoon, and that is what it is, a cartoon for the entertainment of those not wishing to face the truth, but needing to hide their true demeanor with a distraction.

Self-Loathing is the underlying psychological condition that causes people to attempt to abdicate their own personal responsibility to exercise conscience, and fall into patterns of order-following and justification. Just as it is not possible for an order-follower to truly be exercising conscience, it is not possible for an order-follower to truly love themselves.

Self-Loathing is created when on earlier trauma has been suppressed and buried into the subconscious mind, instead of being confronted, dealt with, and healed. Such trauma could take the form of feelings of inadequacy, whether real, suggested, or imagined.


Accept responsibility for yourself and your actions, thoughts and words. You alone make choices. You alone are answerable to the consequences of your behavior. The feeble excuse that your boss required it, the establishment expected it, holds no truth or justification. - David Icke



Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the Earth, I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. A man's enemies will be the members of his own household. Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me. Anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it. - Jesus


It is the ill informed that believes they can walk on water, those of an enlightened nature already understand that is impossible, the difference between those enlightened by the natural law, and that choose to remain in an ignorant state.

Another way of saying this would be to say that the presence of truth and morality in the lives of the people of any given society is inversely proportional to the presence of tyranny and slavery in that society. True freedom can never exist in a society that embraces "Moral Relativism" (the idea that there is no inherent and objective difference between right and wrong, so humanity may arbitrarily "create" or "decide" right and wrong for themselves).

And while you indulge in your little cartoons designed to abdicate the facing of knowledge of truth, the acceptance of ignorance as a way of life with Moral Relativism as it basis, it has no effect on myself but gives me extreme pleasure of the rudeness of the removing from the darkness of the action.

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Thu 06/12/14 10:36 AM

Any impeachment would be futile, because impeachment by itself does not result in the removal of a person from public office.

An impeachment results in a trial taking place in the U.S. Senate, and a simple majority of Senators is needed for a conviction. That isn't going to happen with the Senate Democrats being in the majority.


I thought it was a 2/3 majority.

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