Topic: When a hammer becomes a nail.......
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Fri 06/13/14 07:03 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Fri 06/13/14 07:06 AM

A Former Hammer's Lament: It's No Fun to be the Nail

As Attorney General, Shurtleff saw nothing exceptionable about using military tactics to execute warrants dealing with non-violent offenses. All of this occurred, of course, when he was part of the "who," rather than the "��whom"�� - when he belonged to the exalted fraternity of official coercion, before becoming a mere Mundane.

Shurtleff'��s perspective on routine acts of state terrorism has changed in predictable ways now that he's a nail, rather than a hammer.

Agents 'trashed' home, traumatized kids during search, Shurtleff says

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=30158102&nid=148

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 06/13/14 07:37 AM
I'd rather be a hammer than a nail.
Yes I would.
If I only could,
I surely would. laugh

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Fri 06/13/14 12:17 PM


A Former Hammer's Lament: It's No Fun to be the Nail

As Attorney General, Shurtleff saw nothing exceptionable about using military tactics to execute warrants dealing with non-violent offenses. All of this occurred, of course, when he was part of the "who," rather than the "��whom"�� - when he belonged to the exalted fraternity of official coercion, before becoming a mere Mundane.

Shurtleff'��s perspective on routine acts of state terrorism has changed in predictable ways now that he's a nail, rather than a hammer.

Agents 'trashed' home, traumatized kids during search, Shurtleff says

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=30158102&nid=148


Just imagine, doing it to other ok, but when the tides turn, then it's all unfair. But of course that's not really the issue, is it?

"You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and degrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul." - Mahatma Gandhi

And to think he didn't just assist an evil system, he was part of that evil system and helped move it to where it is today.

Moral Culpability, the determination of who is ultimately at fault, or deserving of blame, for the commission of actions which resulted in harm or loss to others. Culpable: "at fault; deserving of blame", from the Latin noun culpa: "fault; blame".

People just following orders, that is why they call it a totalitarian system, a police state, why do they not call it a banker state? A politician state? A lawyer state? A judge state?

Because none of these people are ultimately responsible for bringing that condition into manifestation through their behavior, they are the order givers. The order-followers carry out their commands and through their behavior make that condition into reality, that's why they call it a police state. Because every police state that has existed has always been created by police that follow their orders.

Who is MORE morally culpable, order givers or order followers? This is not to say that order givers aren't morally culpable, they are. The question is who is MORE morally culpable.

Who is lying? Who is telling the truth? My actions didn't cause that, picture a father holding his dead daughter, an action of war as the "that". Then picture Odumbo, Bush, and Clinton as the first group denying causing that, then picture a group of soldiers in a war zone taking action. Make a decision, who's lying, who's telling the truth, from the standpoint of the manifestation of the result?

So just when and how do we restore a civilized society? When will the people realize that slavery is any action not of one's own design?

Imagine is the powerful ability of the human mind to envision a different state or condition than the one which is already manifested. Imagination must be present in order to create a different state of existence than the one currently being experienced, because according to the Principle of Mentalism, for a different state to manifest in the physical world (Plane of Effects), it must first exist within the mind (Plane of Causality). If the imagination is stifled or destroyed (total mind control), any positive change to our state of existence becomes completely impossible.

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Fri 06/13/14 01:44 PM



A Former Hammer's Lament: It's No Fun to be the Nail

As Attorney General, Shurtleff saw nothing exceptionable about using military tactics to execute warrants dealing with non-violent offenses. All of this occurred, of course, when he was part of the "who," rather than the "��whom"�� - when he belonged to the exalted fraternity of official coercion, before becoming a mere Mundane.

Shurtleff'��s perspective on routine acts of state terrorism has changed in predictable ways now that he's a nail, rather than a hammer.

Agents 'trashed' home, traumatized kids during search, Shurtleff says

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=30158102&nid=148


Just imagine, doing it to other ok, but when the tides turn, then it's all unfair. But of course that's not really the issue, is it?

"You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and degrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul." - Mahatma Gandhi

And to think he didn't just assist an evil system, he was part of that evil system and helped move it to where it is today.

Moral Culpability, the determination of who is ultimately at fault, or deserving of blame, for the commission of actions which resulted in harm or loss to others. Culpable: "at fault; deserving of blame", from the Latin noun culpa: "fault; blame".

People just following orders, that is why they call it a totalitarian system, a police state, why do they not call it a banker state? A politician state? A lawyer state? A judge state?

Because none of these people are ultimately responsible for bringing that condition into manifestation through their behavior, they are the order givers. The order-followers carry out their commands and through their behavior make that condition into reality, that's why they call it a police state. Because every police state that has existed has always been created by police that follow their orders.

Who is MORE morally culpable, order givers or order followers? This is not to say that order givers aren't morally culpable, they are. The question is who is MORE morally culpable.

Who is lying? Who is telling the truth? My actions didn't cause that, picture a father holding his dead daughter, an action of war as the "that". Then picture Odumbo, Bush, and Clinton as the first group denying causing that, then picture a group of soldiers in a war zone taking action. Make a decision, who's lying, who's telling the truth, from the standpoint of the manifestation of the result?

So just when and how do we restore a civilized society? When will the people realize that slavery is any action not of one's own design?

Imagine is the powerful ability of the human mind to envision a different state or condition than the one which is already manifested. Imagination must be present in order to create a different state of existence than the one currently being experienced, because according to the Principle of Mentalism, for a different state to manifest in the physical world (Plane of Effects), it must first exist within the mind (Plane of Causality). If the imagination is stifled or destroyed (total mind control), any positive change to our state of existence becomes completely impossible.



"Imagine is the powerful ability of the human mind to envision a different state or condition than the one which is already manifested. Imagination must be present in order to create a different state of existence than the one currently being experienced, because according to the Principle of Mentalism, for a different state to manifest in the physical world (Plane of Effects), it must first exist within the mind (Plane of Causality). If the imagination is stifled or destroyed (total mind control), any positive change to our state of existence becomes completely impossible."

pla�gia�rism

an act or instance of using or closely imitating the language and thoughts of another author without authorization and the representation of that author's work as one's own, as by not crediting the original author.


Maybe you would like to edit your reply to include the author of this paragraph that you plagiarized.



metalwing's photo
Fri 06/13/14 01:56 PM




A Former Hammer's Lament: It's No Fun to be the Nail

As Attorney General, Shurtleff saw nothing exceptionable about using military tactics to execute warrants dealing with non-violent offenses. All of this occurred, of course, when he was part of the "who," rather than the "��whom"�� - when he belonged to the exalted fraternity of official coercion, before becoming a mere Mundane.

Shurtleff'��s perspective on routine acts of state terrorism has changed in predictable ways now that he's a nail, rather than a hammer.

Agents 'trashed' home, traumatized kids during search, Shurtleff says

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=30158102&nid=148


Just imagine, doing it to other ok, but when the tides turn, then it's all unfair. But of course that's not really the issue, is it?

"You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and degrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul." - Mahatma Gandhi

And to think he didn't just assist an evil system, he was part of that evil system and helped move it to where it is today.

Moral Culpability, the determination of who is ultimately at fault, or deserving of blame, for the commission of actions which resulted in harm or loss to others. Culpable: "at fault; deserving of blame", from the Latin noun culpa: "fault; blame".

People just following orders, that is why they call it a totalitarian system, a police state, why do they not call it a banker state? A politician state? A lawyer state? A judge state?

Because none of these people are ultimately responsible for bringing that condition into manifestation through their behavior, they are the order givers. The order-followers carry out their commands and through their behavior make that condition into reality, that's why they call it a police state. Because every police state that has existed has always been created by police that follow their orders.

Who is MORE morally culpable, order givers or order followers? This is not to say that order givers aren't morally culpable, they are. The question is who is MORE morally culpable.

Who is lying? Who is telling the truth? My actions didn't cause that, picture a father holding his dead daughter, an action of war as the "that". Then picture Odumbo, Bush, and Clinton as the first group denying causing that, then picture a group of soldiers in a war zone taking action. Make a decision, who's lying, who's telling the truth, from the standpoint of the manifestation of the result?

So just when and how do we restore a civilized society? When will the people realize that slavery is any action not of one's own design?

Imagine is the powerful ability of the human mind to envision a different state or condition than the one which is already manifested. Imagination must be present in order to create a different state of existence than the one currently being experienced, because according to the Principle of Mentalism, for a different state to manifest in the physical world (Plane of Effects), it must first exist within the mind (Plane of Causality). If the imagination is stifled or destroyed (total mind control), any positive change to our state of existence becomes completely impossible.



"Imagine is the powerful ability of the human mind to envision a different state or condition than the one which is already manifested. Imagination must be present in order to create a different state of existence than the one currently being experienced, because according to the Principle of Mentalism, for a different state to manifest in the physical world (Plane of Effects), it must first exist within the mind (Plane of Causality). If the imagination is stifled or destroyed (total mind control), any positive change to our state of existence becomes completely impossible."

pla�gia�rism

an act or instance of using or closely imitating the language and thoughts of another author without authorization and the representation of that author's work as one's own, as by not crediting the original author.


Maybe you would like to edit your reply to include the author of this paragraph that you plagiarized.





It was written or copied by a blogger named "Darkheart".

Sad, isn't it?

InvictusV's photo
Fri 06/13/14 02:16 PM
Edited by InvictusV on Fri 06/13/14 02:21 PM





A Former Hammer's Lament: It's No Fun to be the Nail

As Attorney General, Shurtleff saw nothing exceptionable about using military tactics to execute warrants dealing with non-violent offenses. All of this occurred, of course, when he was part of the "who," rather than the "��whom"�� - when he belonged to the exalted fraternity of official coercion, before becoming a mere Mundane.

Shurtleff'��s perspective on routine acts of state terrorism has changed in predictable ways now that he's a nail, rather than a hammer.

Agents 'trashed' home, traumatized kids during search, Shurtleff says

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=30158102&nid=148


Just imagine, doing it to other ok, but when the tides turn, then it's all unfair. But of course that's not really the issue, is it?

"You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and degrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul." - Mahatma Gandhi

And to think he didn't just assist an evil system, he was part of that evil system and helped move it to where it is today.

Moral Culpability, the determination of who is ultimately at fault, or deserving of blame, for the commission of actions which resulted in harm or loss to others. Culpable: "at fault; deserving of blame", from the Latin noun culpa: "fault; blame".

People just following orders, that is why they call it a totalitarian system, a police state, why do they not call it a banker state? A politician state? A lawyer state? A judge state?

Because none of these people are ultimately responsible for bringing that condition into manifestation through their behavior, they are the order givers. The order-followers carry out their commands and through their behavior make that condition into reality, that's why they call it a police state. Because every police state that has existed has always been created by police that follow their orders.

Who is MORE morally culpable, order givers or order followers? This is not to say that order givers aren't morally culpable, they are. The question is who is MORE morally culpable.

Who is lying? Who is telling the truth? My actions didn't cause that, picture a father holding his dead daughter, an action of war as the "that". Then picture Odumbo, Bush, and Clinton as the first group denying causing that, then picture a group of soldiers in a war zone taking action. Make a decision, who's lying, who's telling the truth, from the standpoint of the manifestation of the result?

So just when and how do we restore a civilized society? When will the people realize that slavery is any action not of one's own design?

Imagine is the powerful ability of the human mind to envision a different state or condition than the one which is already manifested. Imagination must be present in order to create a different state of existence than the one currently being experienced, because according to the Principle of Mentalism, for a different state to manifest in the physical world (Plane of Effects), it must first exist within the mind (Plane of Causality). If the imagination is stifled or destroyed (total mind control), any positive change to our state of existence becomes completely impossible.



"Imagine is the powerful ability of the human mind to envision a different state or condition than the one which is already manifested. Imagination must be present in order to create a different state of existence than the one currently being experienced, because according to the Principle of Mentalism, for a different state to manifest in the physical world (Plane of Effects), it must first exist within the mind (Plane of Causality). If the imagination is stifled or destroyed (total mind control), any positive change to our state of existence becomes completely impossible."

pla�gia�rism

an act or instance of using or closely imitating the language and thoughts of another author without authorization and the representation of that author's work as one's own, as by not crediting the original author.


Maybe you would like to edit your reply to include the author of this paragraph that you plagiarized.





It was written or copied by a blogger named "Darkheart".

Sad, isn't it?


It's from a Mark Passio lecture. Fear of Chaos..

I'm not sure where Captain Paranoia took it from..

Maybe we will get a lengthy explanation..

haha



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Fri 06/13/14 02:26 PM




A Former Hammer's Lament: It's No Fun to be the Nail

As Attorney General, Shurtleff saw nothing exceptionable about using military tactics to execute warrants dealing with non-violent offenses. All of this occurred, of course, when he was part of the "who," rather than the "��whom"�� - when he belonged to the exalted fraternity of official coercion, before becoming a mere Mundane.

Shurtleff'��s perspective on routine acts of state terrorism has changed in predictable ways now that he's a nail, rather than a hammer.

Agents 'trashed' home, traumatized kids during search, Shurtleff says

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=30158102&nid=148


Just imagine, doing it to other ok, but when the tides turn, then it's all unfair. But of course that's not really the issue, is it?

"You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and degrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul." - Mahatma Gandhi

And to think he didn't just assist an evil system, he was part of that evil system and helped move it to where it is today.

Moral Culpability, the determination of who is ultimately at fault, or deserving of blame, for the commission of actions which resulted in harm or loss to others. Culpable: "at fault; deserving of blame", from the Latin noun culpa: "fault; blame".

People just following orders, that is why they call it a totalitarian system, a police state, why do they not call it a banker state? A politician state? A lawyer state? A judge state?

Because none of these people are ultimately responsible for bringing that condition into manifestation through their behavior, they are the order givers. The order-followers carry out their commands and through their behavior make that condition into reality, that's why they call it a police state. Because every police state that has existed has always been created by police that follow their orders.

Who is MORE morally culpable, order givers or order followers? This is not to say that order givers aren't morally culpable, they are. The question is who is MORE morally culpable.

Who is lying? Who is telling the truth? My actions didn't cause that, picture a father holding his dead daughter, an action of war as the "that". Then picture Odumbo, Bush, and Clinton as the first group denying causing that, then picture a group of soldiers in a war zone taking action. Make a decision, who's lying, who's telling the truth, from the standpoint of the manifestation of the result?

So just when and how do we restore a civilized society? When will the people realize that slavery is any action not of one's own design?

Imagine is the powerful ability of the human mind to envision a different state or condition than the one which is already manifested. Imagination must be present in order to create a different state of existence than the one currently being experienced, because according to the Principle of Mentalism, for a different state to manifest in the physical world (Plane of Effects), it must first exist within the mind (Plane of Causality). If the imagination is stifled or destroyed (total mind control), any positive change to our state of existence becomes completely impossible.



"Imagine is the powerful ability of the human mind to envision a different state or condition than the one which is already manifested. Imagination must be present in order to create a different state of existence than the one currently being experienced, because according to the Principle of Mentalism, for a different state to manifest in the physical world (Plane of Effects), it must first exist within the mind (Plane of Causality). If the imagination is stifled or destroyed (total mind control), any positive change to our state of existence becomes completely impossible."

pla�gia�rism

an act or instance of using or closely imitating the language and thoughts of another author without authorization and the representation of that author's work as one's own, as by not crediting the original author.


Maybe you would like to edit your reply to include the author of this paragraph that you plagiarized.



Don't need to, have the author's permission to quote freely and without reference. So you would be wrong as usual, not plagiarism when permission granted freely as open source.

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Fri 06/13/14 02:35 PM

It was written or copied by a blogger named "Darkheart".

Sad, isn't it?


Wrong again! But I will agree with the sad, grasping at straws, nothing real to offer.

But for myself, it's so nice to be so loved, or as the person that is the source says, if you don't like my style or message, I don't care. You are free not to pay attention.

InvictusV's photo
Fri 06/13/14 02:36 PM





A Former Hammer's Lament: It's No Fun to be the Nail

As Attorney General, Shurtleff saw nothing exceptionable about using military tactics to execute warrants dealing with non-violent offenses. All of this occurred, of course, when he was part of the "who," rather than the "��whom"�� - when he belonged to the exalted fraternity of official coercion, before becoming a mere Mundane.

Shurtleff'��s perspective on routine acts of state terrorism has changed in predictable ways now that he's a nail, rather than a hammer.

Agents 'trashed' home, traumatized kids during search, Shurtleff says

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=30158102&nid=148


Just imagine, doing it to other ok, but when the tides turn, then it's all unfair. But of course that's not really the issue, is it?

"You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and degrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul." - Mahatma Gandhi

And to think he didn't just assist an evil system, he was part of that evil system and helped move it to where it is today.

Moral Culpability, the determination of who is ultimately at fault, or deserving of blame, for the commission of actions which resulted in harm or loss to others. Culpable: "at fault; deserving of blame", from the Latin noun culpa: "fault; blame".

People just following orders, that is why they call it a totalitarian system, a police state, why do they not call it a banker state? A politician state? A lawyer state? A judge state?

Because none of these people are ultimately responsible for bringing that condition into manifestation through their behavior, they are the order givers. The order-followers carry out their commands and through their behavior make that condition into reality, that's why they call it a police state. Because every police state that has existed has always been created by police that follow their orders.

Who is MORE morally culpable, order givers or order followers? This is not to say that order givers aren't morally culpable, they are. The question is who is MORE morally culpable.

Who is lying? Who is telling the truth? My actions didn't cause that, picture a father holding his dead daughter, an action of war as the "that". Then picture Odumbo, Bush, and Clinton as the first group denying causing that, then picture a group of soldiers in a war zone taking action. Make a decision, who's lying, who's telling the truth, from the standpoint of the manifestation of the result?

So just when and how do we restore a civilized society? When will the people realize that slavery is any action not of one's own design?

Imagine is the powerful ability of the human mind to envision a different state or condition than the one which is already manifested. Imagination must be present in order to create a different state of existence than the one currently being experienced, because according to the Principle of Mentalism, for a different state to manifest in the physical world (Plane of Effects), it must first exist within the mind (Plane of Causality). If the imagination is stifled or destroyed (total mind control), any positive change to our state of existence becomes completely impossible.



"Imagine is the powerful ability of the human mind to envision a different state or condition than the one which is already manifested. Imagination must be present in order to create a different state of existence than the one currently being experienced, because according to the Principle of Mentalism, for a different state to manifest in the physical world (Plane of Effects), it must first exist within the mind (Plane of Causality). If the imagination is stifled or destroyed (total mind control), any positive change to our state of existence becomes completely impossible."

pla�gia�rism

an act or instance of using or closely imitating the language and thoughts of another author without authorization and the representation of that author's work as one's own, as by not crediting the original author.


Maybe you would like to edit your reply to include the author of this paragraph that you plagiarized.



Don't need to, have the author's permission to quote freely and without reference. So you would be wrong as usual, not plagiarism when permission granted freely as open source.


haha...


You are a fraud..


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Fri 06/13/14 02:47 PM

It's from a Mark Passio lecture. Fear of Chaos..

I'm not sure where Captain Paranoia took it from..

Maybe we will get a lengthy explanation..

haha


Wow, you actually got something half right, it was Mark Passio but Fear of Chaos is but an excerpt from the real lecture.

You should attend one of the lectures sometime, but then there is the fear.

And I only do lengthy explanations when I really want to make a point and you are one of my favorites.

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Fri 06/13/14 02:50 PM
Edited by alnewman on Fri 06/13/14 02:56 PM


Don't need to, have the author's permission to quote freely and without reference. So you would be wrong as usual, not plagiarism when permission granted freely as open source.


haha...


You are a fraud..




That is hilarious, but again you are incorrect, How is it that a fraud keeps rebutting all your arguments, actually BS as I have yet to see an argument.

Somehow that just don't work out does it? Sorry posed that as a question, let me rephrase, fraud would be one that posts some crap that keeps getting rebutted with no counter. So I think you need to check your premise, it is in error.

But I see that your only rebuttals are still strong arm.

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Fri 06/13/14 04:06 PM



Don't need to, have the author's permission to quote freely and without reference. So you would be wrong as usual, not plagiarism when permission granted freely as open source.


haha...


You are a fraud..




That is hilarious, but again you are incorrect, How is it that a fraud keeps rebutting all your arguments, actually BS as I have yet to see an argument.

Somehow that just don't work out does it? Sorry posed that as a question, let me rephrase, fraud would be one that posts some crap that keeps getting rebutted with no counter. So I think you need to check your premise, it is in error.

But I see that your only rebuttals are still strong arm.


Your rebuttals are nothing more than the delusional rantings of a conspiracy theorist.

Now that you have run out of your own nonsense you are taking nonsense from someone else and passing it off as yours.

I find it absolutely pathetic.


I looked at another of your posts and found another example of you taking Passio's work and passing it off as yours.

You are a fraud... Plain and simple..




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Fri 06/13/14 04:59 PM

Your rebuttals are nothing more than the delusional rantings of a conspiracy theorist.


Really that bad huh? And to think that they are so bad that they you can't seem to handle a rebuttal. I would have to question just what would be delusional, and just what would be rantings. But I happy and with pride claim the title of "Conspiracy Theorist". And from one that hasn't a clue about just what a conspiracy is, much less the difference between theory and fact.

So using your analogy, imagine, taking nothing to rebut your statements, not arguments, seems like it never makes it that far, but defeat by nothing, just imagine.


Now that you have run out of your own nonsense you are taking nonsense from someone else and passing it off as yours.


But here you are discussing something else that you have no knowledge of. It is all mine, he gave it to me. I now have possession, I invested the time and effort to obtain it and by his reckoning earned it, nothing in this world is free. I am doing exactly what he requested that I do to earn that right. But then you little understand any of this and will choose to remain ignorant of it in all probability forever.


I find it absolutely pathetic.


But I would expect nothing less from you. This would be absolutely par for the course. While not your only error in judgement, but the most major is to even think I would care what you find pathetic. Obviously anything deemed pathetic by yourself would be an absolute positive attribute in my world, so thank you.


I looked at another of your posts and found another example of you taking Passio's work and passing it off as yours.


Really, and just who helped to make that determination? Do you pay attention to the information, of course not, brawn over brain, the desire to remain ignorant of the facts. In fact in Mark's own words:

"As a matter of fact, the absolute worst thing that could happen is that you leave here believing anything you've read, without seeking to verify it through your own research and in your own experience. The whole purpose of this body of work is to encourage others to seek the knowledge that can lead them to a better understanding of themselves, and of our world."

And for the more intelligent beings that wants to check him out:

{url=http://www.whatonearthishappening.com/]What On Earth Is Happening


You are a fraud... Plain and simple..


So I guess with all the errors in your analogy, your opinion that is used as the conclusion would be seen as a culmination of those errors, worthless. But you did get the plain and simple correct.

"Willful ignorance in the presence of knowledge is the measure of a bad person." - Mark Passio, one I am proud to declare as one of my mentors on my search for truth and wisdom. And thank you for this great opportunity to introduce him and his work.