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Topic: Large KKK Groups On Way To Ferguson
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Thu 11/27/14 08:15 AM

Stoopid crap like that wouldn't happen up here. Population is mostly white. So I spose would be half the nation in flames, but not up here.


Look, I see that the modern anti-racist movement in the US is a disease - that its actually a racist movement. That it is built on justifying and inflaming hatred towards whites, and built upon classist contempt for the wealthy, and denial of personal responsibility, the glorification of victimhood (both real and false).

But ultimately - I mean, if you really look into it - skin color and genetic heritage have NOTHING to do with it. I mean, if our global civilization happened to technologically and economically mature (to the level of global colonization) in africa first, then Africans may have colonized the US, killed the native americans, and brought white slaves from Europe. The technology-motivating cold weather and ship-building-motivating extensive coastlines of europe probably had more to do with today's racial injustice in the US (and the irrational, hateful responses to racial injustice) than anything in anyone's genes.

If the tables were turned, it is very likely that white people would be doing exactly what black people are doing today.

We know white people are perfectly capable of insane, hateful denials-of-reality. Just read the "academic" writings from a mere 150 years ago, in which many actually wrote philosophical treatises 'explaining' how and why blacks had an *intrinsically* inferior intelligence, inferior character compared to whites. Its disgusting.

Hell, read *todays* white power literature. White people still do this!!!

Look at how drunk white males in their 20s behave when their is a major sporting event, or when they are around pumpkins.

Young, drunk white males will burn cars because... sports?

At least the black people rioting in ferguson *believe* (due to the lies of others, and their lack of critical thinking) that they are fighting for social justice. Young white males in the US riot over *nothing*.





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Thu 11/27/14 08:17 AM


Stoopid crap like that wouldn't happen up here. Population is mostly white. So I spose would be half the nation in flames, but not up here.


Look, I see that the modern anti-racist movement in the US is a disease - that its actually a racist movement. That it is built on justifying and inflaming hatred towards whites, and built upon classist contempt for the wealthy, and denial of personal responsibility, the glorification of victimhood (both real and false).

But ultimately - I mean, if you really look into it - skin color and genetic heritage have NOTHING to do with it. I mean, if our global civilization happened to technologically and economically mature (to the level of global colonization) in africa first, then Africans may have colonized the US, killed the native americans, and brought white slaves from Europe. The technology-motivating cold weather and ship-building-motivating extensive coastlines of europe probably had more to do with today's racial injustice in the US (and the irrational, hateful responses to racial injustice) than anything in anyone's genes.

If the tables were turned, it is very likely that white people would be doing exactly what black people are doing today.

We know white people are perfectly capable of insane, hateful denials-of-reality. Just read the "academic" writings from a mere 150 years ago, in which many actually wrote philosophical treatises 'explaining' how and why blacks had an *intrinsically* inferior intelligence, inferior character compared to whites. Its disgusting.

Hell, read *todays* white power literature. White people still do this!!!

Look at how drunk white males in their 20s behave when their is a major sporting event, or when they are around pumpkins.

Young, drunk white males will burn cars because... sports?

At least the black people rioting in ferguson *believe* (due to the lies of others, and their lack of critical thinking) that they are fighting for social justice. Young white males in the US riot over *nothing*.







No research, eh?

I don't have time for you today. Happy Thanksgiving.

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Thu 11/27/14 08:17 AM



Stoopid crap like that wouldn't happen up here. Population is mostly white. So I spose would be half the nation in flames, but not up here.



What the hell are you saying??? It sounds like you are saying that white people don't do 'stupid crap like that'.




Please, name the last time, besides during Vietnam, that white inner city people rioted, looted, committed arson, hit and run on pedestrians, in the US (as a racial group). I'll be waiting while you do the research.

KKK is excluded from my discussion. They are not sane, they are retards. An occult. Course, I could go on about Black Panthers too then.


Why exclude the KKK? That's awfully convenient. The KKK are awful, but they are, in fact, white.

What do you gain by trying to compare black people as a group, and insisting that the blacks who behave terrible ARE included in the comparison, while the whites who behave terribly are NOT included ??

Obviously you want to cherry pick your data, and its sounds like you are moving close to 'no true scotsman'

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/no-true-scotsman


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Thu 11/27/14 08:18 AM



Stoopid crap like that wouldn't happen up here. Population is mostly white. So I spose would be half the nation in flames, but not up here.



What the hell are you saying??? It sounds like you are saying that white people don't do 'stupid crap like that'.




Please, name the last time, besides during Vietnam, that white inner city people rioted, looted, committed arson, hit and run on pedestrians, in the US (as a racial group). I'll be waiting while you do the research.

KKK is excluded from my discussion. They are not sane, they are retards. An occult. Course, I could go on about Black Panthers too then.


No, seriously, WHAT ARE YOU SAYING ?
You've deflected the question by asking for evidence of some events.

What are you really saying? Are you actually saying that you think that there is a fundamental difference between white people and black people that leads to black people 'doing crap like that' while white people 'just wouldn't do it' ?




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Thu 11/27/14 08:20 AM




Stoopid crap like that wouldn't happen up here. Population is mostly white. So I spose would be half the nation in flames, but not up here.



What the hell are you saying??? It sounds like you are saying that white people don't do 'stupid crap like that'.




Please, name the last time, besides during Vietnam, that white inner city people rioted, looted, committed arson, hit and run on pedestrians, in the US (as a racial group). I'll be waiting while you do the research.

KKK is excluded from my discussion. They are not sane, they are retards. An occult. Course, I could go on about Black Panthers too then.


Why exclude the KKK? That's awfully convenient. The KKK are awful, but they are, in fact, white.

What do you gain by trying to compare black people as a group, and insisting that the blacks who behave terrible ARE included in the comparison, while the whites who behave terribly are NOT included ??

Obviously you want to cherry pick your data, and its sounds like you are moving close to 'no true scotsman'

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/no-true-scotsman




If you want no research to support your facts, then listen to my opinion, I will relish the day, the white people drag congressmen and senators out of the Capitols and toss them out on their tuckazzes.

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Thu 11/27/14 08:24 AM



No research, eh?

I don't have time for you today. Happy Thanksgiving.


Did you really fail to even notice the quoted statement to which I was responding, and the significance of the time stamps?

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Thu 11/27/14 08:27 AM
Edited by mrld_ii on Thu 11/27/14 08:25 AM
Actually, I agree with BOTH fleta and massage.

Fleta is correct; 'white folk' DON'T take to the streets like 'black folk' do.


It's one of the perks of White Privilege; we're 'in on' The System, so we know how best TO effect "Change".


Strip us OF that Privilege, and we'd be a marauding band of derelicts, too.




A whole BUNCH of white folk got together and threw a whole BUNCH of money-making, capital-creating tea into a bay, once in our history.

Rumor has it 'white folk' torched a whole BUNCH of stuff during that time when they [felt they] had no voice. A whole BUNCH of 'white folk' south of the Mason-Dixon line did similarly, almost 100 years later, when they [felt they] weren't being heard, too.


Do I condone/agree with what the 'black folk' are doing? Absolutely not. I know the RIGHT (read: effective) way to create change. But I *understand* that if 'black folk' feel like they are nothing more than animals being hunted down in the streets

admonishing them to "stop acting like animals" is probably counter-intuitive, at best.


Oh, and by the way, the current laws in Ferguson, MO DO support, condone, and legalize 'being hunted down in the streets like animals'.


Factually-speaking, of course. I've provided the links before; I'm NOT doing it again, since I'm the only one who religiously DOES provide links.



drinks



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Thu 11/27/14 08:30 AM

Stoopid crap like that wouldn't happen up here. Population is mostly white. So I spose would be half the nation in flames, but not up here.

Please, name the last time, besides during Vietnam, that white inner city people rioted, looted, committed arson, hit and run on pedestrians, in the US (as a racial group). I'll be waiting while you do the research.


Yes, lets *exclude* the vietnam war.
Exclude the KKK.
Exclude white people who are not 'inner city'.
And insist that *all* of these happen at the same time: rioting, looting, arson, and hit and run.

So, so convenient.

And yet these past few days a lot of WHITE PEOPLE have been rioting in Oakland.

Many people assume the oakland rioters are black, because the Ferguson rioters are black, and the oakland rioters are rioting 'for Ferguson'.

But, in fact, most of the rioting, breaking of windows, destruction of property, and lighting trash on fire in Oakland is all DONE BY WHITE PEOPLE.

And its being done for the same reasons: because of a combination of their indulgence in their individual anti-social and violent natures, and their collective belief in a ******** anti-racist ideology.


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Thu 11/27/14 08:31 AM

...But, in fact, most of the rioting, breaking of windows, destruction of property, and lighting trash on fire in Oakland is all DONE BY WHITE PEOPLE...



I would LOVE to see the citation to a legimate source that confirms that in Oakland it IS "in fact...all DONE BY WHITE PEOPLE".



I'll (patiently) wait. But, not for too long. MY family will be here to celebrate our Thanksgiving tomorrow and I've got to start cooking at about 10:00AM.



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Thu 11/27/14 08:32 AM
I don't have time for you today. Happy Thanksgiving.


It should not take you long to clarify what you intended by your comment.

If my attempt to rephrase it is completely wrong, you can just say so.

It seems that several of us are giving you a chance to clarify what *sounds* like a terribly racist comment.

And this is coming from someone who is tired of the anti-racists trying to manipulate the dialogue with shame, taboo, and false accusations of racism. I'm not saying you made an ignorantly racist statement, I'm saying that it sounded very much like you did.

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Thu 11/27/14 08:34 AM
Edited by fleta_n_mach on Thu 11/27/14 08:36 AM


Stoopid crap like that wouldn't happen up here. Population is mostly white. So I spose would be half the nation in flames, but not up here.

Please, name the last time, besides during Vietnam, that white inner city people rioted, looted, committed arson, hit and run on pedestrians, in the US (as a racial group). I'll be waiting while you do the research.


Yes, lets *exclude* the vietnam war.
Exclude the KKK.
Exclude white people who are not 'inner city'.
And insist that *all* of these happen at the same time: rioting, looting, arson, and hit and run.

So, so convenient.

And yet these past few days a lot of WHITE PEOPLE have been rioting in Oakland.

Many people assume the oakland rioters are black, because the Ferguson rioters are black, and the oakland rioters are rioting 'for Ferguson'.

But, in fact, most of the rioting, breaking of windows, destruction of property, and lighting trash on fire in Oakland is all DONE BY WHITE PEOPLE.

And its being done for the same reasons: because of a combination of their indulgence in their individual anti-social and violent natures, and their collective belief in a ******** anti-racist ideology.




Still grasping at straws? That is not a racial group in Oakland of whites. I'm still waiting.

So when's the last time whites rioted SINCE Vietnam?


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Thu 11/27/14 08:39 AM

I don't have time for you today. Happy Thanksgiving.


It should not take you long to clarify what you intended by your comment.

If my attempt to rephrase it is completely wrong, you can just say so.

It seems that several of us are giving you a chance to clarify what *sounds* like a terribly racist comment.

And this is coming from someone who is tired of the anti-racists trying to manipulate the dialogue with shame, taboo, and false accusations of racism. I'm not saying you made an ignorantly racist statement, I'm saying that it sounded very much like you did.



Maybe I am racist. oops I can't say that I would be ever romantically attracted to a colored fellow, unless their name was Will Smith. lol

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Thu 11/27/14 08:39 AM
Fleta is correct; 'white folk' DON'T take to the streets like 'black folk' do.


If we are talking about politically motivated protests which lead to property destruction....

....they have been doing so these past 2-3 nights, in Oakland.
And they did so during the occupy protests.



If we are talking about white people just burning **** for no reason, they do so after sports events and during pumpkin festivals.


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Thu 11/27/14 08:57 AM

However, if you'd LIKE to play the game of cutting-and-editing others posts to make it appear that they are saying something they're not,


I cut an edit posts to save screen space, and to be clear about the portion to which I'm responding. Anyone can re-read the whole thread to see what was actually said. I have NO desire to make it 'look like you said something you didn't'.

When you have conversations in person, do you never try to focus in on a particular sub-topic?

Yes, in this particular series of posts I absolutely do have an 'agenda' - a focus of interest.

Fleta made a questionable statement about differences between what white people do and what black people do.

This is the ONE thing that I am most interested in, in this particular series of posts.




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Thu 11/27/14 08:59 AM


I don't have time for you today. Happy Thanksgiving.


It should not take you long to clarify what you intended by your comment.

If my attempt to rephrase it is completely wrong, you can just say so.

It seems that several of us are giving you a chance to clarify what *sounds* like a terribly racist comment.

And this is coming from someone who is tired of the anti-racists trying to manipulate the dialogue with shame, taboo, and false accusations of racism. I'm not saying you made an ignorantly racist statement, I'm saying that it sounded very much like you did.



Maybe I am racist. oops I can't say that I would be ever romantically attracted to a colored fellow, unless their name was Will Smith. lol



I have no idea if you are racist. And I've seen too much of the anti-racists trying to silence a viewpoint by accusing someone of being racist.

I want to know what you really think about any supposed intrinsic differences between white people and black people. What conclusion do you draw about differences you see in white people and black people rioting?

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Thu 11/27/14 09:04 AM


...But, in fact, most of the rioting, breaking of windows, destruction of property, and lighting trash on fire in Oakland is all DONE BY WHITE PEOPLE...



I would LOVE to see the citation to a legimate source that confirms that in Oakland it IS "in fact...all DONE BY WHITE PEOPLE".


I'll (patiently) wait. But, not for too long. MY family will be here to celebrate our Thanksgiving tomorrow and I've got to start cooking at about 10:00AM.




It's not 'all' as in 'exclusively', but yes all of those things are being done by white people.

All you have to do is watch the livestream feeds to see literally hundreds of white people participating in the protests, and the dozens of people setting fires and breaking windows are mostly white.

Also the news articles, videos, and photos available on line about the oakland protests show almost exclusively white people.



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Thu 11/27/14 09:42 AM
Edited by fleta_n_mach on Thu 11/27/14 09:48 AM
Still can't cite a legitimate, credible source SINCE Vietnam, can you?

waiting for the,... copy and paste the from Passio again too.

Whoops! Gotta do make up now.drinker

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Thu 11/27/14 10:56 AM
mrld_ii,

Can I suggest a way to keep things civil yet humorous?

Simply do what I do. When someone is being a pest like a fly, use this computer key:


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Thu 11/27/14 10:59 AM
Anyone who refers to the president primarily as 'Odumbo' isn't likely to be worth my time. But I still try to skim most people's posts most of the time. Not that I'm an Obama supporter - I am not - its just that there is a level of childish-troll-language that goes to low for me.

It seems that you are mostly unhappy with me for my quoting style, and the implications thereof. I really don't mean to be rude (not by thinking this, nor saying it, nor by acting according to this) but - as you correctly stated - I do have certain 'agendas' (purpose, focus, intent) and 'properly resolving our disagreement about quoting habits' isn't one of them at the moment. I am sorry if I've offended you, for whatever that is worth.

I do hope you know that I generally slice and dice everyone's comments, regardless of gender. Overall length and number of separate topics are the main factors influencing whether I do so.

I respect the fact that you don't care who I am. I do hope that, while not-caring-who-I-am, that you don't make implications that I am him. I feel that people ought to care if the implications they make about others are correct.












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Thu 11/27/14 11:10 AM
Another way to respond that is civil:


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