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Topic: Chaos In Waco
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Sun 05/17/15 10:48 PM
Police in Waco, Texas say nine people are dead and multiple people are injured after a shooting between rival biker gangs at a restaurant Sunday.

Authorities say the nine people killed in the shootout were all members of rival biker gangs that had gathered for a meeting.

Waco police Sgt. W. Patrick Swanton told The Associated Press that eight people died at the scene of the shooting at the Twin Peaks restaurant about noon Sunday and another person died at a hospital. The severity of injuries to others was not immediately known and it is not clear if bystanders at the restaurant were among the injured.

"There are still bodies on the scene of the parking lot at Twin Peaks," he said. "There are bodies that are scattered throughout the parking lot of the next adjoining business."

Swanton says the gangs had arranged to meet to discuss differences when a fistfight began and quickly escalated to include knives and firearms. He says there were "hundreds" of gang members and a small number of other patrons in the restaurant.

"This is probably one of the most gruesome crime scenes I've ever seen in my 34 years of law enforcement," Swanton said, later adding, "I was amazed that we didn't have innocent civilians killed or injured."


At least 18 people were transferred to local hospitals with gunshot and stab wounds.

Swanton said Department of Public Safety troopers, police officers from several cities and deputies from the McLennan County Sheriff's Office have surrounded the restaurant to secure the area.

“Officers were on scene when shooting started,” the Waco Police Department posted on Facebook. “No officers have been injured.”

"Dozens" of suspected gang members have been detained, Swanton said.

A photo from the scene showed dozens of motorcycles parked in a lot. Among the bikes, at least three people wearing what looked like biker jackets were on the ground, two on their backs and one face down. Police were standing a few feet away in a group. Several other people also wearing biker jackets were standing or sitting nearby.

Swanton said police were aware in advance that as many as five rival gangs would be gathering at the restaurant and at least 12 Waco officers in addition to state troopers were at the restaurant when the fight began.

When the shooting began in the restaurant and then continued outside, armed bikers were shot by officers, Swanton said, explaining that the actions of law enforcement prevented further deaths. Patrons and bystanders dove for cover.

It's not known what triggered the violence but Swanton and McLennan County District Attorney Abel Reyna said tensions had simmered among rival gangs for months.

"Apparently the management (of Twin Peaks) wanted them here and so we didn't have any say-so on whether they could be here or not," Swanton said.

Swanton told KWTX that the fight started in the restaurant with fists and feet, then escalated to chains, clubs and knives and then to gunfire.

Please avoid the Central Texas Market Place as the area is NOT safe. Officers are continuing to arrest individuals coming to the scene with weapons,” the Waco Police Department posted on Facebook. “This is not the time to sight see as we are dealing with very dangerous individuals.”

Police also were heading to a nearby Flying J Truck stop because a large number of bikers were seen gathering there, KWTX reports.

A witness who asked not to be identified told KWTX that he had just finished eating lunch at the nearby Don Carlos Mexican Restaurant with his family and walked out into the parking lot when they heard gunshots and saw wounded people being taken from the scene.

"We crouched down in front of our pick-up truck because that was the only cover we had," the man said.

Swanton declined to identify the gangs but many men wearing vests inscribed with the words "Bandidos" or "Cossacks" were seen in the area.

In addition to local and state police, agents from the FBI and federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives were also at the scene about an hour and a half south of Dallas.

Swanton said authorities are concerned that gang members are moving to other parts of the city to continue the confrontation elsewhere.

McLennan County District Attorney Abel Reyna told KWTX earlier this month that law enforcement was aware of simmering conflicts between gangs that gathered at the restaurant.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/05/17/police-report-multiple-fatalities-after-shooting-in-texas/

Just waiting for the truthers to say the Government set this up........ rofl

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Sun 05/17/15 11:32 PM
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Sun 05/17/15 11:41 PM
Wonder what their disagreement was about. Which one had the biggest sweetroll? laugh

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Sun 05/17/15 11:47 PM
whats funny Lpdon is, you claim the boston bombing was all true and that everything good old MSM told us was the truth. and then i pointed out that the MSM said the younger brother sustained a gunshot wound to his neck that prevented him from being able to talk. THEN I SHOWED YOU A PICTURE OF HIM SURRENDERING WITH NOTHING WRONG WITH HIS NECK.

then i pointed out how the older brother was supposedly killed in a gun battle according to the MSM version of things. THEN I SHOWED YOU A PICTURE OF HIM IN HANDCUFFS, ALIVE AND WELL!

conveniently after i did that, you didnt seem to post anything to rebut it. you suddenly get silent on the matter because there is no way to rebut it. PICTURES DO NOT LIE! MSM does. its funny how you try to criticize me and call me a "loon" when in reality i post actual evidence to back up what i say, all you do is criticize and then when confronted with actual evidence that YOUR WRONG, you conveniently stop posting and run away from the thread. only to make a new thread and try to call out "truthers and loons". the only loon im seeing is the one who never has any kind of evidence to back up their claims other than what they saw on the MSM. i completely destroyed your whole version of the boston bombing thread in 3 sentences. of course, like a coward you run away to make a new thread calling out truthers and loons.

so now lets make a thread about biker gangs getting into a fight, and use that to try to call me out. terror attacks and motorcycle gangs fighting are two completely different things. nice try.

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 05/18/15 12:41 AM

Police in Waco, Texas say nine people are dead and multiple people are injured after a shooting between rival biker gangs at a restaurant Sunday.

Authorities say the nine people killed in the shootout were all members of rival biker gangs that had gathered for a meeting.

Waco police Sgt. W. Patrick Swanton told The Associated Press that eight people died at the scene of the shooting at the Twin Peaks restaurant about noon Sunday and another person died at a hospital. The severity of injuries to others was not immediately known and it is not clear if bystanders at the restaurant were among the injured.

"There are still bodies on the scene of the parking lot at Twin Peaks," he said. "There are bodies that are scattered throughout the parking lot of the next adjoining business."

Swanton says the gangs had arranged to meet to discuss differences when a fistfight began and quickly escalated to include knives and firearms. He says there were "hundreds" of gang members and a small number of other patrons in the restaurant.

"This is probably one of the most gruesome crime scenes I've ever seen in my 34 years of law enforcement," Swanton said, later adding, "I was amazed that we didn't have innocent civilians killed or injured."


At least 18 people were transferred to local hospitals with gunshot and stab wounds.

Swanton said Department of Public Safety troopers, police officers from several cities and deputies from the McLennan County Sheriff's Office have surrounded the restaurant to secure the area.

“Officers were on scene when shooting started,” the Waco Police Department posted on Facebook. “No officers have been injured.”

"Dozens" of suspected gang members have been detained, Swanton said.

A photo from the scene showed dozens of motorcycles parked in a lot. Among the bikes, at least three people wearing what looked like biker jackets were on the ground, two on their backs and one face down. Police were standing a few feet away in a group. Several other people also wearing biker jackets were standing or sitting nearby.

Swanton said police were aware in advance that as many as five rival gangs would be gathering at the restaurant and at least 12 Waco officers in addition to state troopers were at the restaurant when the fight began.

When the shooting began in the restaurant and then continued outside, armed bikers were shot by officers, Swanton said, explaining that the actions of law enforcement prevented further deaths. Patrons and bystanders dove for cover.

It's not known what triggered the violence but Swanton and McLennan County District Attorney Abel Reyna said tensions had simmered among rival gangs for months.

"Apparently the management (of Twin Peaks) wanted them here and so we didn't have any say-so on whether they could be here or not," Swanton said.

Swanton told KWTX that the fight started in the restaurant with fists and feet, then escalated to chains, clubs and knives and then to gunfire.

Please avoid the Central Texas Market Place as the area is NOT safe. Officers are continuing to arrest individuals coming to the scene with weapons,” the Waco Police Department posted on Facebook. “This is not the time to sight see as we are dealing with very dangerous individuals.”

Police also were heading to a nearby Flying J Truck stop because a large number of bikers were seen gathering there, KWTX reports.

A witness who asked not to be identified told KWTX that he had just finished eating lunch at the nearby Don Carlos Mexican Restaurant with his family and walked out into the parking lot when they heard gunshots and saw wounded people being taken from the scene.

"We crouched down in front of our pick-up truck because that was the only cover we had," the man said.

Swanton declined to identify the gangs but many men wearing vests inscribed with the words "Bandidos" or "Cossacks" were seen in the area.

In addition to local and state police, agents from the FBI and federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives were also at the scene about an hour and a half south of Dallas.

Swanton said authorities are concerned that gang members are moving to other parts of the city to continue the confrontation elsewhere.

McLennan County District Attorney Abel Reyna told KWTX earlier this month that law enforcement was aware of simmering conflicts between gangs that gathered at the restaurant.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/05/17/police-report-multiple-fatalities-after-shooting-in-texas/

Just waiting for the truthers to say the Government set this up........ rofl

Must have been Operation JADED-HELM!spock :laughing:

Lpdon's photo
Mon 05/18/15 04:28 AM

Wonder what their disagreement was about. Which one had the biggest sweetroll? laugh


Well, if you would listen to certain people who are mentally ill they would say it was a conspiracy between the CIA, FBI and DOD to start some kind of war that their Paranoid Personality Disorder comes up with.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 05/18/15 04:30 AM

Wonder what their disagreement was about. Which one had the biggest sweetroll? laugh


But in reality according to investigators it was over a parking spot. These guys are all about respect, once they feel they have been disrespected in any way it's on.

Blah's photo
Mon 05/18/15 04:30 AM
9 dead?

That would be the equivalent to ALL
of the Lords of Aluminum

And... 6 friends.
If only they had any friends.

:laughing:

Lpdon's photo
Mon 05/18/15 04:30 AM
Edited by Lpdon on Mon 05/18/15 04:32 AM

whats funny Lpdon is, you claim the boston bombing was all true and that everything good old MSM told us was the truth. and then i pointed out that the MSM said the younger brother sustained a gunshot wound to his neck that prevented him from being able to talk. THEN I SHOWED YOU A PICTURE OF HIM SURRENDERING WITH NOTHING WRONG WITH HIS NECK.

then i pointed out how the older brother was supposedly killed in a gun battle according to the MSM version of things. THEN I SHOWED YOU A PICTURE OF HIM IN HANDCUFFS, ALIVE AND WELL!

conveniently after i did that, you didnt seem to post anything to rebut it. you suddenly get silent on the matter because there is no way to rebut it. PICTURES DO NOT LIE! MSM does. its funny how you try to criticize me and call me a "loon" when in reality i post actual evidence to back up what i say, all you do is criticize and then when confronted with actual evidence that YOUR WRONG, you conveniently stop posting and run away from the thread. only to make a new thread and try to call out "truthers and loons". the only loon im seeing is the one who never has any kind of evidence to back up their claims other than what they saw on the MSM. i completely destroyed your whole version of the boston bombing thread in 3 sentences. of course, like a coward you run away to make a new thread calling out truthers and loons.

so now lets make a thread about biker gangs getting into a fight, and use that to try to call me out. terror attacks and motorcycle gangs fighting are two completely different things. nice try.


There's that paranoia again. If I was going to call you out I would call you out. You need professional help. That is all I am going to say on the matter.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 05/18/15 04:31 AM


Police in Waco, Texas say nine people are dead and multiple people are injured after a shooting between rival biker gangs at a restaurant Sunday.

Authorities say the nine people killed in the shootout were all members of rival biker gangs that had gathered for a meeting.

Waco police Sgt. W. Patrick Swanton told The Associated Press that eight people died at the scene of the shooting at the Twin Peaks restaurant about noon Sunday and another person died at a hospital. The severity of injuries to others was not immediately known and it is not clear if bystanders at the restaurant were among the injured.

"There are still bodies on the scene of the parking lot at Twin Peaks," he said. "There are bodies that are scattered throughout the parking lot of the next adjoining business."

Swanton says the gangs had arranged to meet to discuss differences when a fistfight began and quickly escalated to include knives and firearms. He says there were "hundreds" of gang members and a small number of other patrons in the restaurant.

"This is probably one of the most gruesome crime scenes I've ever seen in my 34 years of law enforcement," Swanton said, later adding, "I was amazed that we didn't have innocent civilians killed or injured."


At least 18 people were transferred to local hospitals with gunshot and stab wounds.

Swanton said Department of Public Safety troopers, police officers from several cities and deputies from the McLennan County Sheriff's Office have surrounded the restaurant to secure the area.

“Officers were on scene when shooting started,” the Waco Police Department posted on Facebook. “No officers have been injured.”

"Dozens" of suspected gang members have been detained, Swanton said.

A photo from the scene showed dozens of motorcycles parked in a lot. Among the bikes, at least three people wearing what looked like biker jackets were on the ground, two on their backs and one face down. Police were standing a few feet away in a group. Several other people also wearing biker jackets were standing or sitting nearby.

Swanton said police were aware in advance that as many as five rival gangs would be gathering at the restaurant and at least 12 Waco officers in addition to state troopers were at the restaurant when the fight began.

When the shooting began in the restaurant and then continued outside, armed bikers were shot by officers, Swanton said, explaining that the actions of law enforcement prevented further deaths. Patrons and bystanders dove for cover.

It's not known what triggered the violence but Swanton and McLennan County District Attorney Abel Reyna said tensions had simmered among rival gangs for months.

"Apparently the management (of Twin Peaks) wanted them here and so we didn't have any say-so on whether they could be here or not," Swanton said.

Swanton told KWTX that the fight started in the restaurant with fists and feet, then escalated to chains, clubs and knives and then to gunfire.

Please avoid the Central Texas Market Place as the area is NOT safe. Officers are continuing to arrest individuals coming to the scene with weapons,” the Waco Police Department posted on Facebook. “This is not the time to sight see as we are dealing with very dangerous individuals.”

Police also were heading to a nearby Flying J Truck stop because a large number of bikers were seen gathering there, KWTX reports.

A witness who asked not to be identified told KWTX that he had just finished eating lunch at the nearby Don Carlos Mexican Restaurant with his family and walked out into the parking lot when they heard gunshots and saw wounded people being taken from the scene.

"We crouched down in front of our pick-up truck because that was the only cover we had," the man said.

Swanton declined to identify the gangs but many men wearing vests inscribed with the words "Bandidos" or "Cossacks" were seen in the area.

In addition to local and state police, agents from the FBI and federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives were also at the scene about an hour and a half south of Dallas.

Swanton said authorities are concerned that gang members are moving to other parts of the city to continue the confrontation elsewhere.

McLennan County District Attorney Abel Reyna told KWTX earlier this month that law enforcement was aware of simmering conflicts between gangs that gathered at the restaurant.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/05/17/police-report-multiple-fatalities-after-shooting-in-texas/

Just waiting for the truthers to say the Government set this up........ rofl

Must have been Operation JADED-HELM!spock :laughing:


rofl

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Mon 05/18/15 04:47 AM


Wonder what their disagreement was about. Which one had the biggest sweetroll? laugh


Well, if you would listen to certain people who are mentally ill they would say it was a conspiracy between the CIA, FBI and DOD to start some kind of war that their Paranoid Personality Disorder comes up with.


Well.. if it was a war on obesity. than I would applaud the effort .. those were some fat, out of shape (mostly old) men there... trying to act tough.

They are 1%ers, from some "no name" gangs that most likely patched over to the local larger gang ( Bandito's, Warlords, Hells Angels, ect).

A bunch of middle age wanna bees... with some Grandfathers sprinkled in.

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Mon 05/18/15 04:49 AM
I drove through there around 19:15 yesterday. Truth seen with mine own eyes: the truck stop (Flying J) was indeed closed. I was slated to shut down there but ended up in Salado, Tx. Entrance and exit ramps were also closed off. Restrictions reached as far south as Temple, Texas. I saw the crime scene from the highway(Twin Peaks restaurant), tons of motorcycles in the parking lot. That's all I got. Did not see the players (police, bikers, patrons). I believe something happened. Back in the northeast I saw military, I assumed jade helm. No biggie. I'm currently sitting in Austin.

Fred7170's photo
Mon 05/18/15 06:02 AM


Well.. if it was a war on obesity. than I would applaud the effort .. those were some fat, out of shape (mostly old) men there... trying to act tough.

They are 1%ers, from some "no name" gangs that most likely patched over to the local larger gang ( Bandito's, Warlords, Hells Angels, ect).

A bunch of middle age wanna bees... with some Grandfathers sprinkled in.

rofl

Fred7170's photo
Mon 05/18/15 06:05 AM


Well, if you would listen to certain people who are mentally ill they would say it was a conspiracy between the CIA, FBI and DOD to start some kind of war that their Paranoid Personality Disorder comes up with.

You mean like Fox News and MSN? laugh

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Mon 05/18/15 06:18 AM
Edited by SassyEuro2 on Mon 05/18/15 07:17 AM
So glad, the OP made this thread.
Here is my beef...
I read 4 links on the story, & there are more discrepancies than usual
* usually everything is off AP w/ slight variations.. lately anyway*
The ONLY thing, they seem to agree on, is NINE dead & where.

But no agreement ... on the following

1- How many injured?

2- How many gangs ? (some say, 2 some say 3, some just have it written as plural)

3- Which gangs? (only FoxNews named 2,which they claimed is from an eyewitness account of viewing two people vests, face down on the ground)

4- Why aren't there more details?

Does the police and/ or media REALLY believe, that NOT naming the gangs will prevent future violence.
* Hhhaaaa... no, it won't *


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Mon 05/18/15 06:27 AM
Edited by 2OLD2MESSAROUND on Mon 05/18/15 07:17 AM

devildog123 stated >>>
Well.. if it was a war on obesity. than I would applaud the effort .. those were some fat, out of shape (mostly old) men there... trying to act tough.

They are 1%ers, from some "no name" gangs that most likely patched over to the local larger gang ( Bandito's, Warlords, Hells Angels, ect).

A bunch of middle age wanna bees... with some Grandfathers sprinkled in.















Just from some of the still photo's seems the 'obesity factor' worked well for both sides of the shoot out event! UGH

But on the serious note: 'WTF' were they thinking to allow this to take place in a state that has been 'ARMED AND DANGERSOUS' for years and in such a family oriented setting? GOOD GRIEF...

With all the chaos; WHEW, the local yokels were exceedingly lucky that there weren't any citizens wounded/killed --- those unfortunate employees that had to be on duty to have to crawl some where safe to get out of sight!!!

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Mon 05/18/15 06:30 AM
them crazy texans, what are thay going to do next? HEHEHE

Blah's photo
Mon 05/18/15 06:47 AM

them crazy texans, what are thay going to do next? HEHEHE


I guess it woulda been a bad weekend for
me to cruise down to Waco.

:laughing:

2469nascar's photo
Mon 05/18/15 06:56 AM


them crazy texans, what are thay going to do next? HEHEHE


I guess it woulda been a bad weekend for
me to cruise down to Waco.

:laughing:
if you do,might wana bring your six shooter,,

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Mon 05/18/15 07:12 AM

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