Topic: George Takei Sounds Off
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Sun 07/05/15 09:25 AM
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HOMOSEXUALITY, POLITICS - U.S.
Fri Jul 3, 2015 - 4:07 pm EST

George Takei: Clarence Thomas is a ‘clown in blackface’ for saying slaves had dignity

Dustin Siggins Dustin

Clarence Thomas , George Takei , Same-Sex 'Marriage'

July 3, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) -- Here is your "If a conservative said it" Moment of the Week: Comedian, marriage redefinition activist, and former Star Trek actor George Takei, who has more than 8.7 million Facebook followers, called Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas "a clown in blackface."

Hear those crickets? That's the sound of the Left refusing to bring down the proverbial hammer on Takei for his racist comment because, unlike Thomas, Takei considers redefining marriage the civil rights fight of modern America.

Here's the background:

As part of his dissent against the U.S. Supreme Court's redefinition of how government recognizes marriage, Thomas -- a black man who grew up in pre-Civil Rights Era Georgia -- noted that the Court's ruling that marriage should be redefined to enhance the "dignity" of same-sex couples was flawed. According to Thomas, "The flaw in that reasoning, of course, is that the Constitution contains no ‘dignity’ Clause, and even if it did, the government would be incapable of bestowing dignity.”

Thomas expanded upon this:

Human dignity has long been understood in this country to be innate. When the Framers proclaimed in the Declaration of Independence that “all men are created equal” and “endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,” they referred to a vision of mankind in which all humans are created in the image of God and therefore of inherent worth. That vision is the foundation upon which this Nation was built.

The corollary of that principle is that human dignity cannot be taken away by the government. Slaves did not lose their dignity (any more than they lost their humanity) because the government allowed them to be enslaved. Those held in internment camps did not lose their dignity because the government confined them. And those denied governmental benefits certainly do not lose their dignity because the government denies them those benefits. The government cannot bestow dignity, and it cannot take it away.
Okay, so far so good. Thomas believes that dignity is innate -- a characteristic given by God, not man or man's governments. Agree or disagree, it's clear what Thomas meant.

Except, it appears, to Takei:

[Thomas] is a clown in blackface sitting on the Supreme Court. He gets me that angry. He doesn't belong there. And for him to say, slaves have dignity. I mean, doesn't he know that slaves were in chains? That they were whipped on the back. If he saw the movie 12 Years a Slave, you know, they were raped. And he says they had dignity as slaves or – My parents lost everything that they worked for, in the middle of their lives, in their 30s. His business, my father's business, our home, our freedom and we're supposed to call that dignified? Marched out of our homes at gun point. I mean, this man does not belong on the Supreme Court. He is an embarrassment. He is a disgrace to America.
After some backlash -- including some from liberal pundits -- Takei doubled down on Facebook:


A few fans have written wondering whether I intended to utter a racist remark by referring to Justice Thomas as a "clown in blackface."

"Blackface" is a lesser known theatrical term for a white actor who blackens his face to play a black buffoon. In traditional theater lingo, and in my view and intent, that is not racist. It is instead part of a racist history in this country.

I feel Justice Thomas has abdicated and abandoned his African American heritage by claiming slavery did not strip dignity from human beings. He made a similar remark about the Japanese American internment, of which I am a survivor. A sitting Justice of the Supreme Court ought to know better.

I have expressed my full thoughts on the matter here.
To summarize: Takei, who was a victim of anti-Japanese bigotry during World War II, thinks that Thomas has betrayed his race by saying all people, including black slaves and interned Asians, have inherent dignity that even the most horrible of man's actions cannot diminish or extinguish.

Thus ends your "If a conservative said it" Moment of the Week.

Update: Shortly after this post went up, Takei offered a combination apology/justification for his comments.
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MARRIAGE

Fri Jul 3, 2015 - 6:09 pm EST
‘You can’t have’ marriage equality ‘without polygamy’

Lisa Bourne

Marriage , Polygamy , Same-Sex 'Marriage'

July 3, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) – Motivated by the U.S. Supreme Court ruling legalizing homosexual “marriage,” a Montana polygamist has filed for a second marriage license, so he can be legally wed to two women at once.

"It's about marriage equality," said Nathan Collier, using homosexual advocates’ term to support marriage redefinition. "You can't have this without polygamy."

Collier, who has has appeared on the TLC reality show Sister Wives with his legal wife Victoria, and his second wife Christine, said he was inspired by the dissent in the Supreme Court decision.

The minority Supreme Court justices said in Friday’s ruling it would open the door to both polygamy and religious persecution.

“It is striking how much of the majority’s reasoning would apply with equal force to the claim of a fundamental right to plural marriage,” wrote Chief Justice John Roberts.

Collier and his wives applied for a second marriage license earlier this week at the Yellowstone County Courthouse in Billings, a report from the Salt Lake Tribune said.

Collier, who was excommunicated from the Mormon Church for polygamy, married Victoria in 2000 and had a religious wedding ceremony with Christine in 2007. The three have seven children between them and from previous relationships.

"My second wife Christine, who I'm not legally married to, she's put up with my crap for a lot of years. She deserves legitimacy," Collier said.

Yellowstone County officials initially denied the application before saying they would consult with the County Attorney and get him a final answer.

Bigamy, the holding of multiple marriage licenses, is illegal all 50 states, but Collier plans to sue if his application is denied. Officials expect to have an answer for him next week.

While homosexual “marriage” supporters have long insisted legalization of same-sex unions would not lead to polygamy, pro-life and family advocates have warned all along it would be inevitable with the redefinition of marriage.

“The next court cases coming will push for polygamy, as Chief Justice John Roberts acknowledged in his dissent,” said Penny Nance, president of Concerned Women for America, after the Supreme Court ruling. “The chief justice said “the argument for polygamy is actually stronger than that for ‘gay marriage.’ It’s only a matter of time.

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Sun 07/05/15 10:15 AM
Does polygamy work both ways? If women can have multiple husbands, I am open to the idea. It's hard to only choose one good man sometimes. I would like the option of marrying more than one at the same time. smokin

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Sun 07/05/15 10:17 AM
I could have one, two or even 3 Daddys at once. Woo wee!!!!

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Sun 07/05/15 10:37 AM
Edited by RebelArcher on Sun 07/05/15 10:42 AM

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Sun 07/05/15 10:42 AM
just goes to show, no one is allowed an opinion anymore... what does anyone think would be happening right now if a republican, any republican, would have said the exact same thing GT said?

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Sun 07/05/15 10:45 AM

Does polygamy work both ways? If women can have multiple husbands, I am open to the idea. It's hard to only choose one good man sometimes. I would like the option of marrying more than one at the same time. smokin


Sorry just the thought of it makes me tired.
Think of the houses you have to clean. Making more than 1 lunch. Oh my gosh the kids whose the daddy?
I think one man is more than enough for me until then happy to do the single life.

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Sun 07/05/15 10:58 AM

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Sun 07/05/15 11:01 AM




another thing people seem to forget... how many roosters can you have in a henhouse? only one, they will kill each other otherwise...

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Sun 07/05/15 11:03 AM








rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

sad, but true

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Sun 07/05/15 02:42 PM
How very old-style "liberal" of this writer to read racism into the comments for effect. Amusing, really.

By the way, anyone know why some posters' cut and paste posts are so hard to read? Full of extra characters?

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Sun 07/05/15 03:20 PM
George Takei

Doesn't matter.

George Takei, who has more than 8.7 million Facebook followers

That in no way means there are 8.7 million followers wearing Takei robes, worshipping on the Takei sabbath, about the Takei takeover and enlightenment of mankind.

If George Takei can get 8.7 million people to march on Washington to promote his opinion I might care about it because it might actually matter.

As it is, he's just a celebrity with an opinion no different than any dating site forum post opinion.


And I'm starting to wonder if I should have kids, try to marry my daughter (or son, doesn't matter anymore) at 16, and also claim them as a dependent after they get a job.

So, I get marriage tax benefits, and child credits.

And if their job offers better insurance benefits than mine, I can be put on her insurance as a spouse.

anyone know why some posters' cut and paste posts are so hard to read? Full of extra characters?

Differences in formatting.
Most dating sites use the same formatting, at least the ones with forums. Quoting, bolding, underlining, italicizing, and putting images in are the same commands.

News sites use different formatting rules and commands.

When cutting and posting people take from one formatting system and stick it into another without running it through a "cleaning" program, so those formatting commands translate into weird extra characters.





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Sun 07/05/15 03:43 PM

QUOTE:
anyone know why some posters' cut and paste posts are so hard to read? Full of extra characters?

Differences in formatting.
Most dating sites use the same formatting, at least the ones with forums. Quoting, bolding, underlining, italicizing, and putting images in are the same commands.

News sites use different formatting rules and commands.

When cutting and posting people take from one formatting system and stick it into another without running it through a "cleaning" program, so those formatting commands translate into weird extra characters.
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BECAUSE, it is a $120.00 Android Mobile phone, with no " cleaning " program on a site that is still not mobile friendly.

Threads... threads anyone.. :banana:

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Sun 07/05/15 04:01 PM


QUOTE:
anyone know why some posters' cut and paste posts are so hard to read? Full of extra characters?

Differences in formatting.
Most dating sites use the same formatting, at least the ones with forums. Quoting, bolding, underlining, italicizing, and putting images in are the same commands.

News sites use different formatting rules and commands.

When cutting and posting people take from one formatting system and stick it into another without running it through a "cleaning" program, so those formatting commands translate into weird extra characters.
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BECAUSE, it is a $120.00 Android Mobile phone, with no " cleaning " program on a site that is still not mobile friendly.

Threads... threads anyone.. :banana:


it has nothing to do with phones, i never post with my phone on here... it's the quotation marks, mainly these two " ' ... i always replace them when i copy and paste, but why it does this, i have no idea...it wasn't always like this, just started doing this in the last year or so...

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Sun 07/05/15 04:19 PM



QUOTE:
anyone know why some posters' cut and paste posts are so hard to read? Full of extra characters?

Differences in formatting.
Most dating sites use the same formatting, at least the ones with forums. Quoting, bolding, underlining, italicizing, and putting images in are the same commands.

News sites use different formatting rules and commands.

When cutting and posting people take from one formatting system and stick it into another without running it through a "cleaning" program, so those formatting commands translate into weird extra characters.
-------------------------------------------------------

BECAUSE, it is a $120.00 Android Mobile phone, with no " cleaning " program on a site that is still not mobile friendly.

Threads... threads anyone.. :banana:


it has nothing to do with phones, i never post with my phone on here... it's the quotation marks, mainly these two " ' ... i always replace them when i copy and paste, but why it does this, i have no idea...it wasn't always like this, just started doing this in the last year or so...



Hhmmm... well, I'm stuck with the phone ,so everyone else is too.
Removing all the quotes would be a pain in the ovaries, laugh , not going to happen.
Thanks for explaining it Moe drinker