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I chuckle reading people's reactions to stories.
There are always believers, fence sitters, and non believers; (and Non-Beebers). What is interesting is that many people disbelieving the so called "conspiracy theories" information, and denigrating those believers, then at their appropriate times and places wholeheartedly believe in things patently rediculous themselves, eg.: Illogical creation stories from thousands of years ago, created by shaman and maggi etc. to hoodwink people and gain power / control of knowledge. Invisible friends. Mysterious friends. Magic trinkets. A dude who is all powerfull and created everything, but needs money. People living in clouds dispensing justice, or suffering in fiery caverns for eternity. Nuclear safety. Government / Corporate compassion. And heaps of other crazy stuff. And what's more, some of the crazy stuff believed by the non-believers, is supplied for them to believe by the very conspirators that are in question. Believe it or not. As most of you here will know, everything taught to you is a lie. |
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What is interesting is that many people disbelieving the so called "conspiracy theories" information, and denigrating those believers, One of the big conspiracies is making the world believe Steven Hawking is a brilliant scientist/physicist ect |
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I can't describe it - what I'm feeling. And what I'm thinking when I eat a plate of spaghetti. This means something.
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It all started when we were kids and Santa Claus.
Ho Ho Ho |
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Wow ... sounds like you know the answer to life, the universe and everything!
(as does everyone else who watched Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy, but that's not the point). Either that or you been doing a Cheech and Chong. I'm going with the latter, just cos that's more fun to thing of, haha |
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If not for conspiracy theorists,
There'd be nobody left, for us to legally make fun of. |
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It all started when we were kids and Santa Claus. Ho Ho Ho Ho Ho Ho, is politically incorrect these days. Might offend a trio of prostitutes. |
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You are lumping a HUGE variety of people under one label, OP. That's not logical or reasonable either.
Not all theists believe in the trinkets, or the literal statements in old books. Pretending they all do, is a conspiracy theory all it's own. |
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Mark Woodman gives some understanding of language manipulation of some scriptures, but can be tedious. The Zeitgeist video is interesting, in showing some part of what the old books really were. Bruce Cathie gives boring maths new meanings in his Harmonic books, and Harmonic Code video. And even some of David Ike's information is pertinent. Off you go and laugh.
If you want to know, then understand the meanings of the symbols, logos, coat of arms, flags, and flag borders, which are legal statements; and also monuments, plaques, and icons, symbology is everywhere. A flag shown back to front means something else. Did you know that ? |
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And even some of David Ike's information is beyond ridiculous. There. I corrected it for you. |
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Mon 09/07/15 12:29 AM
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http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/David_Icke
David Icke[2] is a human singularity of insanity best known for his UFO and conspiracy theory advocacy. He came to fame as an English footballer and sports commentator and used to be a spokesman for the Green Party of England and Wales, but since 1991 has devoted his life to informing the world that it's actually secretly controlled by evil shape-shifting lizard-people from the 4th dimension. David Icke and his claims David Icke is a proponent of a super-duper grand unified conspiracy theory that mixes together just about every conspiracy theory you can think of; this he calls the "Babylonian Brotherhood", where Jew lizards were All members of the media, the scientific community, the banking system, and the religions and militaries of the world's nations trying to bring Global Elite and rule the world Another claim of David Icke is that 5 to 12 feet tall, blood-drinking, shape-shifting reptilian humanoids from the Alpha Draconis star system, now hiding in underground bases, are trying to take over the world. He contends that most of the world's leaders are related to these reptilians, including George W. Bush of the United States, and Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom. David Icke conspiracy theory nonsense made 4% of Americans to believe his ideas. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Reptilians |
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That's the one. I knew he would get a response.
No need to talk any B.S. Just look at the symbols, owned by money. Crosses, double crosses, Tee's, pyramids, stars, suns, etc. and the ever present fasci. Don't be a sheep, be a goat and climb fences. Finally, empty vessels make the most noise. |
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That's the one. I knew he would get a response. No need to talk any B.S. Just look at the symbols, owned by money. Crosses, double crosses, Tee's, pyramids, stars, suns, etc. and the ever present fasci. Don't be a sheep, be a goat and climb fences. Finally, empty vessels make the most noise. Empty vessels ...? The key element to any conspiracy theory is believable false information. Sometimes the theory takes the form of false science which is instantly shot down by real science but believed by "empty vessels" who know nothing of the topic ... sometimes. You only have to fool a few percent of the population to have a large audience. I am not sure if your message here is "fooling some of the people all of the time" or "all the people some of the time". It actually sounds like "all of the people all of the time" which certainly isn't true. Everything taught is not a lie. Some of it is. A real education consists of being able to tell the difference. Here is some data on the "safety" of nuclear energy. "According to the World Data Bank, Japan's coal generation increased by 57 TWh, natural gas 58 TWh, and oil 9 TWh through 2011. It is reasonable to assume this remained the same through 2012. Deaths/TWh/yr from coal, gas, oil, and nuclear-based generation are 24, 3, 19.2, and 0.052, respectively. See URL EXTRA fossil deaths and serious ailments over 2 years: Coal = 24 people x 57 TWh x 2 years = 2,736 deaths, plus 25,000 serious ailments Gas = 3 x 58 x 2 = 348 deaths, plus 3,400 serious ailments Oil = 19.2 x 9 x 2 = 342 deaths, plus 2,900 serious ailments Total EXTRA fossil deaths = 2,736 + 348 + 342 = 3,426, plus 31,300 serious ailments Nuclear = 0.052 x (57 + 58 + 9) x 2 = 13 deaths, plus 54 serious ailments Opponents of nuclear energy are completely irrational regarding the “dangers of nuclear”. Note that natural gas is 8 times less deadly than coal. These deathrates are operative as long as Japan's nuclear plants are idled!! http://billothewisp.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/fukushima-hidden-epidemic.html http://www.bigthunderwindpower.ca/files/resources/Electricity_generation_and_health_(The_Lancet_2007).pdf FUKUSHIMA COMPARED WITH OTHER CAUSES OF DEATH Deaths from Nuclear vs Coal Energy: If Japan had never adopted nuclear energy generation, accidents and pollution from increased use of coal and gas energy generation would have caused deaths many times greater than those caused by accidents and radiation from nuclear energy generation. Example: Assuming Japanese nuclear energy production at an average of 250 TWh/yr, annual deaths from nuclear energy generation would be 0.04/(TWh/yr) x 250 TWh/yr = 10, whereas annual deaths from an equal quantity of coal energy generation would be about 50/(TWh/yr) x 250 TWh/yr = 12,500. See below section “DEATHS BY ENERGY SOURCE” In China, the annual deaths per TWh of coal energy generation is much greater than in Japan. In the US, the annual deaths from coal energy generation is about 15/(TWh/yr) x 1,700 TWh/yr = 25,500; the same order of magnitude as US annual traffic deaths of 34,000. Note: Deaths from PV solar-rooftop and IWT energy generation are about 16 and 4 times the deaths of nuclear energy generation, respectively, according to the World Health Organization." http://www.theenergycollective.com/willem-post/191326/deaths-nuclear-energy-compared-other-causes |
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Edited by
Dodo_David
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Mon 09/07/15 11:54 AM
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How can any sane human being agree to allow some greedy old men to make a profit for themselves, and have virtually no accountability (since they will all be dead before only 100 years passes), profiting by polluting an area, or many areas with a deadly toxin that will still be dangerous to all life near it, after more than half a million years. That's 500,000 years.
250,000 years is its half life, when it's only half as deadly, but still very deadly. Still deadly after theft of site maintenance budgets, government changes, cultural changes, fencing / signage failure. And still dangerous to all life after environmental changes eliminate all memory of its continuing danger. Even the radon gas from mining is dangerous and no filter can scrub it. And the waste ? Aborigines had ancient knowledge of deadly places with radioactivity and asbestos etc. from a 40,000 year old or older culture, but "civilised" Europeans ignored the safety information because they were so clever. Leave it in the ground. Yes there are medical uses arguments, and the "but they are all doing it" argument. Statistical creativity won't protect you. Forget the power argument and turn off some lights. Against a half a million years of constant danger. Think of the children and animals. INTERGENERATIONAL EQUITY NOT GREED OF THE SELFISH |
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How can any sane human being agree to allow some greedy old men to make a profit for themselves, and have virtually no accountability (since they will all be dead before only 100 years passes), profiting by polluting an area, or many areas with a deadly toxin that will still be dangerous to all life near it, after more than half a million years. That's 500,000 years. 250,000 years is its half life, when it's only half as deadly, but still very deadly. Still deadly after theft of site maintenance budgets, government changes, cultural changes, fencing / signage failure. And still dangerous to all life after environmental changes eliminate all memory of its continuing danger. Even the radon gas from mining is dangerous and no filter can scrub it. And the waste ? Aborigines had ancient knowledge of deadly places with radioactivity and asbestos etc. from a 40,000 year old or older culture, but "civilised" Europeans ignored the safety information because they were so clever. Leave it in the ground. Yes there are medical uses arguments, and the "but they are all doing it" argument. Statistical creativity won't protect you. Forget the power argument and turn off some lights. Against a half a million years of constant danger. Think of the children and animals. INTERGENERATIONAL EQUITY NOT GREED OF THE SELFISH yep,it isn't as if Tribalism/Collectivism hasn't destroyed any Countries in the past! |
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How can any sane human being agree to allow some greedy old men to make a profit for themselves, and have virtually no accountability (since they will all be dead before only 100 years passes), profiting by polluting an area, or many areas with a deadly toxin that will still be dangerous to all life near it, after more than half a million years. That's 500,000 years. 250,000 years is its half life, when it's only half as deadly, but still very deadly. Still deadly after theft of site maintenance budgets, government changes, cultural changes, fencing / signage failure. And still dangerous to all life after environmental changes eliminate all memory of its continuing danger. Even the radon gas from mining is dangerous and no filter can scrub it. And the waste ? Aborigines had ancient knowledge of deadly places with radioactivity and asbestos etc. from a 40,000 year old or older culture, but "civilised" Europeans ignored the safety information because they were so clever. Leave it in the ground. Yes there are medical uses arguments, and the "but they are all doing it" argument. Statistical creativity won't protect you. Forget the power argument and turn off some lights. Against a half a million years of constant danger. Think of the children and animals. INTERGENERATIONAL EQUITY NOT GREED OF THE SELFISH Perhaps you would be willing to share the source of your "half-life" claim. |
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List of nuclides
From Wikipedia, the free encyclop[a]edia Primordial radioactive nuclides[edit] The following 34 primordial nuclides have been measured to be radioactive, or decay products were identified (Te-130, Ba-130): no nuclide energy half-life (sec) 284 238U 7.872551 1.410×10-17 decay mode decay energy (MeV) half-life (years) α, SF 4.270 4.471×10-9 = 4,471,000,000 years uranium 238 no nuclide energy half-life (sec) 286 235U 7.897198 2.222×10-16 decay mode decay energy (MeV) half-life (years) α, SF 4.679 704×10-6 = 704,000,000 years uranium 235 no nuclide energy half-life (sec) 288 244Pu 7.826221 2.525×10-15 decay mode decay energy (MeV) half-life (years) α, SF 4.666 80×10-6 = 80,000,000 years plutonium 244 Non-primordial radionuclides[edit] These have half-lives of less than 80 million years. no nuclide energy half-life (sec) 290 236U 7.891470 7.391×10-14 decay mode half-life (years) half-life α, SF 2.342×10-7 y = 23,420,000 years uranium 236 no nuclide energy half-life (sec) 313 234U 7.908308 7.747×10-12 decay mode half-life (years) half-life α, SF 2.455×10-5 y = 245,500 years uranium 234 no nuclide energy half-life (sec) 318 233U 7.912873 5.024×10-12 decay mode half-life (years) half-life α, SF 1.592×10-5 y = 159,200 years uranium 233 It takes this long to get just half as deadly, but still deadly. How dead or mutated do you want your progeny to get ? How many extinctions is appropriate for corporate government greed? Nuclear waste, coming to a piece of land near you. Mockers. |
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