Topic: sign or mark of the beast.
Tom4Uhere's photo
Wed 02/14/18 06:49 PM





My brother read Revelation 22:6-12. There is your question. Focus on vers 11.


11> He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

Essentially, "Be All That You Can Be"
Are you telling me to Join the Army?
I was a Navy man, Decades ago.

I am not Unjust
I am not Filthy
I don't need to be Righteous
and
I have no desire to be Holy.

How is
What if I don't see the world as coming to an end?
What if I don't concentrate on bad things in the world?
What if my impression of life is in harmony?
What if I see beauty in all things?
What if I don't see the world as needing changed or saved or fixed?
I'm not afraid of the future.
I'm not afraid of death.
I'm not afraid of the diversity of people.
I don't need saved from anything because nothing is threatening me that I have no power over.
I don't need to be guided because I actively choose my path.
I live in contentment.
I have a positive attitude about life.
I see 'Good Things' all the time.
making me Unjust, Filthy, needing to be Righteous or Holy?

Just because I am not afraid of the world I live in is construed to be a bad thing?
I don't need to be saved from anything except the closed-mindedness of religions.
My life is not full of worry.
I don't stress about death.
I live in a positive attitude.
I am responsible for the acts I do.
I can accept that responsibility without needing to be forgiven for my mistakes.
I need my mistakes and my turmoil.
I learn from it.
It makes me who I am right now and frankly, I like me as I am.
you can't be a good religious person if you aren't scared... Your supposed to love and fear god at the same time... key word there being fear...

Exactly the point I am making.
Around my place, churches come to the door and the first thing out of their mouths is how the world is falling apart.
My response is always that I don't see it.
Then they stop knocking on my door.
I just hold my dog and let him talk with them...they get the message pretty quick... (A Rotty, but he's actually sweet...just doesn't like people knocking on the door)

My nephew has a pit that is gentle as a kitten...unless you're aggressive.

mich111111's photo
Thu 02/15/18 06:10 PM
My friends if you have all those qualities,what are you seeking in a Christian forum? For you live is just born love and die. But for Christian live is faith and live forever when Jesus come back. They come to your home because God sent them. You talk to me because God is talking to you through me. We can do nothing on our own power. And if God not exist,why all those miracles? Look At The magician, look at dynamo. Just YouTube Dynamo and see what he is doing. Maybe you don't live far from him. That is the devil who are do all this wondering now,through the magician. Let me known what you think when you this magicians in actions.

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Thu 02/15/18 06:13 PM

My friends if you have all those qualities,what are you seeking in a Christian forum? For you live is just born love and die. But for Christian live is faith and live forever when Jesus come back. They come to your home because God sent them. You talk to me because God is talking to you through me. We can do nothing on our own power. And if God not exist,why all those miracles? Look At The magician, look at dynamo. Just YouTube Dynamo and see what he is doing. Maybe you don't live far from him. That is the devil who are do all this wondering now,through the magician. Let me known what you think when you this magicians in actions.


This isn't a Christian forum. This is General Religion meaning ALL beliefs. Christian Singles is the Christian forum

Vera's photo
Fri 02/16/18 11:03 AM
Hi Tom!

I love your message! The text is filled with life and truth.

I think, not everyone who comes to my door is sent by God, because God has given us a free will, so they do what they want. I don’t need any signs, because faith is about what I believe, not about what I see.

God’s Word, The Good News is the eternal Word, for everyone, for every generation, for every century. It speaks to every generation and the message is still the same. The Holy Bible is not a newspaper. No. It is a constant Word. Which means, throughout all times believers constantly are waiting for the return of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Constantly thinking of being in the end times. Constantly!

Jesus was saying it three times, that we can do what we like, but we shall choose life. I choose life, I go out with joy, I know I am secured in Jesus. Amen

God bless you! Rev. Vera

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Fri 02/16/18 12:14 PM
Edited by Tom4Uhere on Fri 02/16/18 12:15 PM
Hi Reverend Vera,

The Bible is full of happiness but it also full of despair.
What is disturbing is that a lot of people use despair to try to incite fear. Its a mind game where they use fear to try to get you to embrace love and happiness.
They think that people exist in fear, alot of people do.
When someone turns to religion out of fear and expecting protection and comfort but live in fear, there is no comfort. Not true comfort.
Comfort becomes something they are told they should have.

I find comfort in my existence, it doesn't hinge on belief in religion. I acknowledge the good things in life. I give no power to fear and dread.

My acceptance of God is not a condition of benefit or reward. It isn't a protection from fear and dread. It is a personal choice.

When religions try to convince you that you 'need' them, they are changing the parameters of your unity with God. They are making assumptions on how you experience life then they try to convince you that those assumptions are true.

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Fri 02/16/18 01:23 PM
My friend I understand you. But nobody is free to do what they want and also believed in God. If you have knowing the Bible good the you also can shown people where to find the truth. Thanks that you have remind me, that this part is for everyone. Now I can defend my faith much better. My believing is completely from the scripture and I lives through the scripture. Now let me go to the scripture. Do you have a bible if is yes,than open it and read what Paul says. And also the lady who has here loving your words. Go to Galatians 1:1-10. You can read the rest when you have understand what Paul says. Let me go now I'm the old testament. What did God says to Moses when the people has make a golden calf? They says that they are free. But God says NO. He has given them his commandments. And still today the law stay. And it will stay till Jesus return. So if you are not a Christian just let the Christians with their believes and you keep talking about your believes. We real Christian die for our faith,the one who kill us is not the people itself,but the demons in them. We died preaching the gospel. If you are a Christian follow the words of God BIBLICALLY.

Tom4Uhere's photo
Fri 02/16/18 01:28 PM

My friend I understand you. But nobody is free to do what they want and also believed in God. If you have knowing the Bible good the you also can shown people where to find the truth. Thanks that you have remind me, that this part is for everyone. Now I can defend my faith much better. My believing is completely from the scripture and I lives through the scripture. Now let me go to the scripture. Do you have a bible if is yes,than open it and read what Paul says. And also the lady who has here loving your words. Go to Galatians 1:1-10. You can read the rest when you have understand what Paul says. Let me go now I'm the old testament. What did God says to Moses when the people has make a golden calf? They says that they are free. But God says NO. He has given them his commandments. And still today the law stay. And it will stay till Jesus return. So if you are not a Christian just let the Christians with their believes and you keep talking about your believes. We real Christian die for our faith,the one who kill us is not the people itself,but the demons in them. We died preaching the gospel. If you are a Christian follow the words of God BIBLICALLY.

Why does your faith need defended?

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 02/16/18 01:31 PM

My friend I understand you. But nobody is free to do what they want and also believed in God. If you have knowing the Bible good the you also can shown people where to find the truth. Thanks that you have remind me, that this part is for everyone. Now I can defend my faith much better. My believing is completely from the scripture and I lives through the scripture. Now let me go to the scripture. Do you have a bible if is yes,than open it and read what Paul says. And also the lady who has here loving your words. Go to Galatians 1:1-10. You can read the rest when you have understand what Paul says. Let me go now I'm the old testament. What did God says to Moses when the people has make a golden calf? They says that they are free. But God says NO. He has given them his commandments. And still today the law stay. And it will stay till Jesus return. So if you are not a Christian just let the Christians with their believes and you keep talking about your believes. We real Christian die for our faith,the one who kill us is not the people itself,but the demons in them. We died preaching the gospel. If you are a Christian follow the words of God BIBLICALLY.


Again...this forum is general (all beliefs)

Not everyone is Christian here

Mathhew 10:14

If someone wants to discuss with Christians, go to Christian Singles here

mightymoe's photo
Fri 02/16/18 01:33 PM

My friend I understand you. But nobody is free to do what they want and also believed in God.

Kind of a hypocritical statement there, don't you think? God gives freewill, but but your going to hell if you don't listen to him...you might wanna rethink how you glorify your god if you want more followers, you'll only get the real stupid ones like that...

Tom4Uhere's photo
Fri 02/16/18 02:29 PM
I choose my side.

mich111111's photo
Fri 02/16/18 08:30 PM
I'm talking about my God and they hate me.I live the word of God, they question me my faith. I preached the truth, they say I'm wrong. Is this not for all denominations in the world? Why fighting!! I'm talking to the people who search for the true God. I'm sorry for my English. But I can speak 4 language. Try to follow those three. Ami ta un jui di Kòrsòw anto papiamentu ta no idioma.Ik ben van Curaçao Nerlandse Antillen. Yo soy de Curaçao. Now I have 4 language to defent myself. My message is for the people who searching the true God. For people's that God sent here to hear God voice talking to them. Stop fighting God.

Tom4Uhere's photo
Fri 02/16/18 09:06 PM

I'm talking about my God and they hate me.I live the word of God, they question me my faith. I preached the truth, they say I'm wrong. Is this not for all denominations in the world? Why fighting!! I'm talking to the people who search for the true God. I'm sorry for my English. But I can speak 4 language. Try to follow those three. Ami ta un jui di Kòrsòw anto papiamentu ta no idioma.Ik ben van Curaçao Nerlandse Antillen. Yo soy de Curaçao. Now I have 4 language to defent myself. My message is for the people who searching the true God. For people's that God sent here to hear God voice talking to them. Stop fighting God.

Honestly, I'm sure what you wrote makes perfect sense to you but,
DOOOOODE! WTF do you mean? I can't make sense of any of it?

Tom4Uhere's photo
Fri 02/16/18 09:11 PM


I'm talking about my God and they hate me.I live the word of God, they question me my faith. I preached the truth, they say I'm wrong. Is this not for all denominations in the world? Why fighting!! I'm talking to the people who search for the true God. I'm sorry for my English. But I can speak 4 language. Try to follow those three. Ami ta un jui di Kòrsòw anto papiamentu ta no idioma.Ik ben van Curaçao Nerlandse Antillen. Yo soy de Curaçao. Now I have 4 language to defent myself. My message is for the people who searching the true God. For people's that God sent here to hear God voice talking to them. Stop fighting God.

Honestly, I'm sure what you wrote makes perfect sense to you but,
DOOOOODE! WTF do you mean? I can't make sense of any of it?

Let me splain:
I'm talking about my God and they hate me.
???
I live the word of God, they question me my faith.
???
I preached the truth, they say I'm wrong.
???
From what you write it seems that your faith is dependent on others approval? So much so that you specifically give examples.
Is it your faith or someone elses version of what your faith should be?

MAKES NO SENSE?

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Fri 02/16/18 09:26 PM

My friend I understand you. But nobody is free to do what they want and also believed in God. If you have knowing the Bible good the you also can shown people where to find the truth. Thanks that you have remind me, that this part is for everyone. Now I can defend my faith much better. My believing is completely from the scripture and I lives through the scripture. Now let me go to the scripture. Do you have a bible if is yes,than open it and read what Paul says. And also the lady who has here loving your words. Go to Galatians 1:1-10. You can read the rest when you have understand what Paul says. Let me go now I'm the old testament. What did God says to Moses when the people has make a golden calf? They says that they are free. But God says NO. He has given them his commandments. And still today the law stay. And it will stay till Jesus return. So if you are not a Christian just let the Christians with their believes and you keep talking about your believes. We real Christian die for our faith,the one who kill us is not the people itself,but the demons in them. We died preaching the gospel. If you are a Christian follow the words of God BIBLICALLY.



I am muslim. According to my belief, Jesus did not die, he came to the heavens and will return when the time comes. and judge justice, people will be happy. //// Muhammad, Jesus, Moses, Abraham, David and Adam These are the prophets, the messengers of Allah. but God is not, because people can not be God. Adam and Eve are our parents. they are all beautiful people ... they want our good ... that's all ...

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Sat 02/17/18 01:58 PM

Marks of beast or God are hypothetical ...no "mark" exists as it is your soul that God is concerned with...humans took old writings and wrote books to invoke fear...not because God is a judgmental pr**k, but because a few humans discovered they could make millions off the idea of God...sadly they who love money don't know the true God...one day God will return...and all the people who claim they are they way...hmmm..I have a feeling they might find a fork road in the afterlife...flowerforyou

Dear Kindlightheart,the mark of the beast (anti Christ) is not a hypothetical mark but a real mark that the anti christ will make people on earth to have. It will be a universal code (666) that one will need have on the forehead or right hand-tatoolike engravements to access a universal database or system. No code,no access to the financial system.
God in his infinite mercy had not left us in the dark,but had revealed them in his word. See Revelations 13 v 11-18

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Sat 02/17/18 03:39 PM
.....Revelations 13 v 11-18
v11
I beheld another beast coming out of the earth: he had two horns like a lamb and spake like a dragon.
V12
And he excercised all the power of the first beast before,and he causeth the earth and all that dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
V13
And he doeth great wonders,so that he maketh fire to come down from heaven upon the earth in the sight of men,
V14
And he decieveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracle that he had power to do in the sight of the beast:saying to them that dwell on the earth,that they should make an image to the beast which had a wound by sword and did live .
V15
And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast,that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the beast should be killed.
V16
And he causeth all,both SMALL AND GREAT,RICH AND POOR,FREE AND BOND,TO RECIEVE THE MARK ON THEIR RIGHT HAND,OR THEIR FOREHEADS:

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Sat 02/17/18 04:33 PM
V17
And that no Man might buy or sell ,save he that had the mark,or the name of the beast,or the number of his name.
V18
HERE IS WISDOM. LET HIM THAT HAVE UNDERSTANDING COUNT THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST :FOR IT IS THE NUMBER OF A MAN: AND HIS NUMBER IS SIX HUNDRED SIX SCORE AND SIX.

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Sat 02/17/18 08:34 PM

I thi k I would rather believe knowledge nuts .. he sounds like he knows what he is talking about ...
http://knowledgenuts.com/2013/08/12/the-devils-number-is-not-666/

Is there anyone from ancient Egypt who can validate this information about the number of the beast biggrin waving


Yes...

However, I am sworn to secrecy...

Don't tell anyone I am from ancient egypt.. Or I am ancient and was once from.. hmmmm... sorry, this is a bit confusing.

Godsfriend10's photo
Sat 02/17/18 11:24 PM

I thi k I would rather believe knowledge nuts .. he sounds like he knows what he is talking about ...
http://knowledgenuts.com/2013/08/12/the-devils-number-is-not-666/

Is there anyone from ancient Egypt who can validate this information about the number of the beast biggrin waving

Blondey,lies are easy to believe. So sad many are gullible.
The bible(the revealed word of God) is our final authority on all matters as followers of Jesus Christ.
Satan's greatest tool is deciet.
Any school of thought that denies the virgin birth,death on the cross,ressurrection,ascension of Jesus Christ is the spirit of the anti christ. Jesus The Christ is the central theme of the bible.
The anti christ (the beast,false messiah) is actually a political leader that
Will arise to proffer temporal solution to all world challenges-the bible call lying wonders. Magic.
He will be empowered by satan(the dragon),the false prophet,a religious leader(the lamblike beast)

mich111111's photo
Sat 02/17/18 11:49 PM


My friend I understand you. But nobody is free to do what they want and also believed in God. If you have knowing the Bible good the you also can shown people where to find the truth. Thanks that you have remind me, that this part is for everyone. Now I can defend my faith much better. My believing is completely from the scripture and I lives through the scripture. Now let me go to the scripture. Do you have a bible if is yes,than open it and read what Paul says. And also the lady who has here loving your words. Go to Galatians 1:1-10. You can read the rest when you have understand what Paul says. Let me go now I'm the old testament. What did God says to Moses when the people has make a golden calf? They says that they are free. But God says NO. He has given them his commandments. And still today the law stay. And it will stay till Jesus return. So if you are not a Christian just let the Christians with their believes and you keep talking about your believes. We real Christian die for our faith,the one who kill us is not the people itself,but the demons in them. We died preaching the gospel. If you are a Christian follow the words of God BIBLICALLY.



I am muslim. According to my belief, Jesus did not die, he came to the heavens and will return when the time comes. and judge justice, people will be happy. //// Muhammad, Jesus, Moses, Abraham, David and Adam These are the prophets, the messengers of Allah. but God is not, because people can not be God. Adam and Eve are our parents. they are all beautiful people ... they want our good ... that's all ...
@
according to your believes today many Muslims converted to Christian because the Koran self bring them to Jesus. The most Muslims who are Christian now is not by a misionary. They converted through dreams and visions.