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Topic: Biodegradability Timescale
TwilightsTwin's photo
Tue 10/30/07 08:27 PM
Pick up litter!!!!


Banana Peel...................About 3-4 weeks

Tin Can.........................about 10-40 years

Aluminium Wrapper...................200-500 years

disposible diaper...................500-600 years

plastic jug............................1,000,000 years

styrofoam cup............................eternity

plutonium rod.............................eternity + 1

(Dont pick up discarded plutonium rod with your bare hands. Fetch plastic gloves first.laugh )

bookworm's photo
Tue 10/30/07 08:27 PM
Wow. Interesting.

shutterbug63's photo
Tue 10/30/07 08:36 PM
Now who is gonna vote to delete this? Gimme a break. Leave my girl TwilightTwin alone grumble grumble grumble

wouldee's photo
Tue 10/30/07 08:50 PM
eight cute little kitties... 10--15 yearsbigsmile

gardenforge's photo
Wed 10/31/07 10:42 PM
Twilights Twin, I would be interested in seeing the source of your information, do you have a reference that you can supply?

TwilightsTwin's photo
Thu 11/01/07 11:22 AM
E-mail my friend, I added the plutonium rod for giggles...though they are often seen in road ditcheslaugh

gardenforge's photo
Thu 11/01/07 08:16 PM
Just as I thought, I think if you check the web you will find that much of the information is inaccurate. A tin can is actually steel and if placed in a moist environment it will rust to dust in less than a year. Styrofoam will degrade much faster than plutonium. Aluminum foil or wrappers will degrade much quicker than 200 to 500 years and while it takes plastics longer do degrade, I doubt very seriously that it takes a million years. This is just the sort of Junk Science that causes the environmental movement to loose credibility.

TwilightsTwin's photo
Fri 11/02/07 10:33 PM
Well who peed in your cheerios

TwilightsTwin's photo
Fri 11/02/07 10:47 PM
So....

Throw all tin cans in the lake!

Leave the styrofoam, wrappers, litter, and plutonium rods in the road ditches...they will take care of themselves in the blink of an eye...right?


Junk science? So are you anti-everything that someone posts??? Or just particularly against improving the enviroment gardenforge?

I didn't realize there was a party (pro) for destroying the earthnoway grumble

Jess642's photo
Fri 11/02/07 10:50 PM
laugh laugh laugh

Maybe if we leave gardenforge in the gutter he will turn to dust in a year too.


I am biodegradable...it's happening before my eyes!!!noway noway

no photo
Sat 11/03/07 07:25 AM
Since when is pro-truth taken to mean anti-environment?

Garden, I care deeply about the environment, but I try not to let my self-rightousness in that area overshadow my respect for truth.

Spur277's photo
Sat 11/03/07 07:43 AM
I am biodegradable...it's happening before my eyes!!! Jess642

I wouldn't complain a bit if you were biodegrading before my eyes!!!

s1owhand's photo
Sat 11/03/07 07:49 AM
plutonium is wild stuff. from the Wiki....

"Because it self-irradiates, it ages both from the outside-in and the inside-out."

"The heat given off by alpha particle emission makes plutonium warm to the touch in reasonable quantities; larger amounts can boil water."

"From a purely chemical standpoint, it is about as poisonous as lead and other heavy metals."

"Other substances including ricin, tetrodotoxin, botulinum toxin, and tetanus toxin are fatal in doses of (sometimes far) under one milligram, and others (the nerve agents, the amanita toxin) are in the range of a few milligrams. As such, plutonium is not unusual in terms of toxicity, even by inhalation. In addition, those substances are fatal in hours to days, whereas plutonium (and other cancer-causing radioactives) give an increased chance of illness decades in the future. Considerably larger amounts may cause acute radiation poisoning and death if ingested or inhaled; however, so far, no human is known to have immediately died because of inhaling or ingesting plutonium and many people have measurable amounts of plutonium in their bodies."

s1owhand's photo
Sat 11/03/07 07:54 AM
if you put some tomato sauce on your aluminum foil it'll only last a few days...even in your fridge...especially the thin stuff but don't eat the sauce - it'll have aluminum dissolved in it!

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Sat 11/03/07 08:23 AM
Gardenforge.....I have a hard time believing that your sources are acurate either. I have been through old ghost towns and mining towns where if you dig in the dirt you find old litter including cans......

no photo
Sat 11/03/07 08:26 AM
But I gusee they are probably tin or something besides aluminum....

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Sat 11/03/07 08:29 AM
And while they are rusty .....they are way more than a year old!!

s1owhand's photo
Sat 11/03/07 08:35 AM
our planet is in crisis due to overpopulation and our own waste. we are changing our environment like bacteria growing out of control. we are going to have to adapt. but the US map is going to have less land where low lying areas now are before that happens!

cueing Tom Lehrer - "Pollution" from the That Was The Year That Was...

s1owhand's photo
Sat 11/03/07 08:41 AM
a special song dedication to this thread...

no photo
Sat 11/03/07 11:18 AM
Does it really matter how long something lasts before it "breaks down"?

Here's a novel idea:

If you see litter on the ground--PICK IT UP AND PUT IT WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO! You know, in a trash can. When I do this, I don't worry about how much longer the can's gonna be there, because I'm picking it up and properly disposing of it. That's how you get rid of litter. Trash isn't gonna be talked into a trash can.

In seriousness, I do think laws against littering should be enforced much better, and fines should be a LOT more than they are now.

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