Topic: 'Time For Bundeswehr To Grow'
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Thu 05/12/16 09:55 PM
'Time for Bundeswehr to grow’: Germany announces 1st army expansion since Cold War



https://www.rt.com/news/342563-germany-bundeswehr-army-expansion/


‘Time for Bundeswehr to grow’: Germany announces 1st army expansion since Cold War

Germany is marching towards rebuilding what was once western Europe’s largest army, with a “long overdue” decision to recruit 14,300 additional soldiers over the next seven years, to counter modern threats and overcome pressures “in all areas.”

“A quarter century of contraction is over. It is time for the Bundeswehr to grow again,” Ursula von der Leyen, the defense minister said in a statement announcing the expansion. “The Bundeswehr is under pressure to modernize in all areas. We have to get away from the process of permanent shrinking.”

Around 7,000 new troops will be recruited in the initial drive, with some 4,400 civilian personnel working alongside them. The defense ministry has already announced that its budget will grow from the current €34.2 billion ($38.9bn) to €39.2 billion ($44.6bn) by 2020.

Von der Leyden said that the country is already engaged in 16 foreign missions, including fighting Islamic State in Syria and Iraq, monitoring the inflows of refugees from across the Mediterranean, and providing support for NATO allies in the east, alarmed by tensions in eastern Ukraine. A recent internal review confirmed what national media had widely reported – that manpower was stretched, and some equipment, including rifles, and Cold War-era fighter jets, was obsolete, or less reliable than it had been assumed to be.

At the height of the Cold War the Bundeswehr comprised some 670,000 personnel, both military and civilians. Currently, there are 87,000 civilian personnel and 177,000 military staff employed by the army. A cap of 185,000 troops imposed back in 2011 will now be broken with the announced expansion.

Even considering the cuts, Germany has the second biggest armed forces in the EU behind France, and ahead of the UK.

But the US has criticized Berlin and other NATO allies, with Barack Obama accusing them publicly of “complacency.” The alliance says its members should spend 2 percent of GDP on their military, while Germany expenditure is currently at 1.2 percent.

Von der Leyden said that many of the new professionals would be trained in cyber warfare, and other technologically demanding areas of modern war.

The army association, the Bundeswehrverband, praised the move as a “180-degree turn,” but said von der Leyden faces a struggle in recruiting the requisite amount of specialists, particularly since conscription was abandoned in 2011.

“As far as personnel is concerned, it's long overdue,” its chief André Wüstner told news agency DPA. “It's only regrettable that now a lot of money has to be spent advertising for all the skilled labor for the Bundeswehr that had to be pushed out of the Bundeswehr for cost-cutting reasons.”

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Thu 05/12/16 10:23 PM
Edited by ErotiDoug on Thu 05/12/16 10:24 PM
* The German military Budget will be approximately three/four times Canada's annual.
* GDP. Germany 1.2
* GDP. Canada .9
* GDP. United States 3.3
* GDP. Saudi Arabia 12.9 omg! devil
* It will be nice to see Germany pick-up it's U.N. responsibilities. As we know from world history, internal security by military forces replaces Liberty.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

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Thu 05/12/16 11:08 PM
I'll wager that Mangela Erkel will order heavy recruitment
of Syrian "refugees".


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Thu 05/12/16 11:24 PM

I'll wager that Mangela Erkel will order heavy recruitment
of Syrian "refugees".




Please welcome Harjit Sajjan, Minister of National Defence. (Canada)

* Canada's new 'badass' defence minister explode


* Enjoyment :banana:


* http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/harjit-sajjan-badass-canada-defence-minister-1.3304931

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Thu 05/12/16 11:44 PM


I'll wager that Mangela Erkel will order heavy recruitment
of Syrian "refugees".




Please welcome Harjit Sajjan, Minister of National Defence. (Canada)

* Canada's new 'badass' defence minister explode


* Enjoyment :banana:


* http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/harjit-sajjan-badass-canada-defence-minister-1.3304931

yep,his stance against reduction of the Canadian Military will sure endear him with the Libtards!laugh

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Thu 05/12/16 11:47 PM
14,300 new Personnel over a seven years period is an Exercise in Futility!

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Thu 05/12/16 11:50 PM

* The German military Budget will be approximately three/four times Canada's annual.
* GDP. Germany 1.2
* GDP. Canada .9
* GDP. United States 3.3
* GDP. Saudi Arabia 12.9 omg! devil
* It will be nice to see Germany pick-up it's U.N. responsibilities. As we know from world history, internal security by military forces replaces Liberty.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

Germany has more likely lost more of their Bluehelmets than Canada!
The Increase is actually for NATO,not those cursed Untied Nations!

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Thu 05/12/16 11:51 PM

I'll wager that Mangela Erkel will order heavy recruitment
of Syrian "refugees".



Called 5th-Column Recruiting!laugh

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Thu 05/12/16 11:58 PM


* The German military Budget will be approximately three/four times Canada's annual.
* GDP. Germany 1.2
* GDP. Canada .9
* GDP. United States 3.3
* GDP. Saudi Arabia 12.9 omg! devil
* It will be nice to see Germany pick-up it's U.N. responsibilities. As we know from world history, internal security by military forces replaces Liberty.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

Germany has more likely lost more of their Bluehelmets than Canada!
The Increase is actually for NATO,not those cursed Untied Nations!



* GDP. Switzerland, 0.7 laugh

* Switzerlond Ranked as 37 of 126 ( same as Norway ) what
* *****Canada Ranked as 22 of 126

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Fri 05/13/16 12:00 AM



* The German military Budget will be approximately three/four times Canada's annual.
* GDP. Germany 1.2
* GDP. Canada .9
* GDP. United States 3.3
* GDP. Saudi Arabia 12.9 omg! devil
* It will be nice to see Germany pick-up it's U.N. responsibilities. As we know from world history, internal security by military forces replaces Liberty.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

Germany has more likely lost more of their Bluehelmets than Canada!
The Increase is actually for NATO,not those cursed Untied Nations!



* GDP. Switzerland, 0.7 laugh

* Switzerland Ranked as 37 of 126 ( same as Norway ) what
* *****Canada Ranked as 22 of 126

so what!
We're still better prepared than Ca-Nada!laugh

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Fri 05/13/16 12:02 AM


I'll wager that Mangela Erkel will order heavy recruitment
of Syrian "refugees".



Called 5th-Column Recruiting!laugh


* Germany and Japan both rebuilding. For peace I hope.flowerforyou

* As we know from world history, internal security by military forces replaces Liberty.

drinker :wink:

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Fri 05/13/16 12:58 AM
US has criticized Berlin and other NATO allies, with Barack Obama accusing them publicly of “complacency.” The alliance says its members should spend 2 percent of GDP on their military, while Germany expenditure is currently at 1.2 percent.

* GDP. United States 3.3 (3.3% of GDP spent on military)

Which is absolutely hysterical.

What is GDP (as measured in the U.S., which is measured differently in Germany)?
GDP = consumption + investment + government spending + net exports.

How much did the U.S. take in taxes last year?
A record 3,248,723,000,000

How much did it spend in total?
A record $3,687,622,000,000

If you need to increase your military spending while making it look like you are decreasing it, just spend more money in total, playing with the formula you use to measure.


Which, probably way off topic, is more hysterical when you consider the current meme being passed around is that Obama has never had above a 3% growth of GDP unlike all other presidents before him while spending more than all other presidents before him combined.

'Time For Bundeswehr To Grow'

I wouldn't doubt for a second that this is more to increase "jobs" and government expenditure to increase GDP.
No different than "shovel ready jobs."
Everyone loves "support the troops!"

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Fri 05/13/16 01:10 AM



* The German military Budget will be approximately three/four times Canada's annual.
* GDP. Germany 1.2
* GDP. Canada .9
* GDP. United States 3.3
* GDP. Saudi Arabia 12.9 omg! devil
* It will be nice to see Germany pick-up it's U.N. responsibilities. As we know from world history, internal security by military forces replaces Liberty.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

Germany has more likely lost more of their Bluehelmets than Canada!
The Increase is actually for NATO,not those cursed Untied Nations!



* GDP. Switzerland, 0.7

* Switzerland Ranked as 37 of 126 ( same as Norway )
Canada Ranked as 22 of 126

not having a standing Army,and the Members of the Militia storing and maintaining their Equipment,including their personal Weapon at Home,saves quite a bit of Expenditures!

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Fri 05/13/16 04:42 AM
Edited by SassyEuro2 on Fri 05/13/16 04:43 AM
think Wip out the calculators people.
The size of Canada, the total (lack) of population.. Canada therefore spends about twice as much, on military & weapons as Germany is doing.


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Fri 05/13/16 04:51 AM
Well.. Some of us seen this coming TEN years ago.. Ya know... At the onset of the invasion.


"Das Deutschlandlied" - Germany National Anthem (German & English)
http://youtu.be/VhQwLeMcbRY/
02:55

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Fri 05/13/16 05:25 AM
they are adding about One Division within seven Years!

Got to be a Military Joke!laugh