Topic: Venting... I need to grow a back bone.
melyssanoriega's photo
Wed 05/18/16 01:47 PM
So this may be TMI for a dating site but my ex husband and I had a meeting in court. I didn't pull any of the low blows I didn't bring in pictures of the bruises or discharge papers from the ER from the teams he beat the crap out of me. But I have had five surgeries in the last two years and in court he said that I was the equivalent of Frankenstein and I couldn't have anymore kids so pretty much "what use am I" it hurt so bad. I'm refusing to stoop his level and after ten years of being together he knows I wouldn't and he know it's a sensitive issue for me so him to bring it up in public was just to humiliate me and be mean. I don't understand how some men can feel macho by being a bully to the mother of their children.

RustyKitty's photo
Wed 05/18/16 02:18 PM
Well, sticking to the higher ground, as you did..keeps all the muck off.
You are well to be rid of this scoundrel
Your self-esteem has taken a hit as well - take care of yourself
Onto bigger and better things .!

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Wed 05/18/16 03:28 PM
Venting... I need to grow a back bone.

Sometimes growing a backbone isn't the issue.
Sometimes it's just learning perspective.
Learning to choose battles.

I mean "growing a back bone" typically means being able to say what you really feel, allowing your emotions to be ejaculated out there, and fighting for other people to accept and validate them.

IMO it's just as important to be able to kind of shut that off.
Treat things like you would the cashier at the grocery store.
Doesn't matter if they're an a-hole, or their stupidity.
All that matters is if they do their job, and once done, you get to leave, and never think of them again.
Arguing with them is pointless as you aren't trying to develop a relationship with them.
Just get your groceries and go.

That doesn't require a back bone, just realizing they don't matter.
No different than online forums, or comments sections, or facebook.

There was a recent article about the female head of the FEC reading online comments for the first time, getting scared, and taking some as death threats, having never encountered such vitriol before in her life.
Not really realizing the comments are pretty much posted constantly by everyone everywhere over the internet.

Sometimes it's not backbone you need to develop but simply your own emotional temperance in response to people.

I don't understand how some men can feel macho by being a bully

It's about pecking order.
No way to lose.
If he attacks you and you capitulate/get beat down, he has physical power over you, then he's better than you (higher/worth more in the social hierarchy).
If he attacks you and you respond in any way, he has emotional power over you, he can manipulate you, he's better than you (higher/worth more in the social hierarchy).

Positional security in the social hierarchy is extremely important. It's what drives the economy for the most part.
"I have a bigger t.v., I have a nicer car, I have a bigger house, I have a better job title, I'm the president, I'm stronger, I have better benefits, my penis is bigger, I can have babies, my fake boobs are bigger, I've nailed x amount of people."
It's all jockeying for social position and trying to prove one person is better than another, therefore worth more.

But once you enter that game with someone, respond to their manipulations, you are simply proving their estimation of your position in relation to them as correct.
(Not to mention, establishing that you are a part of their social group and they are social peers, even when they aren't)

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Wed 05/18/16 03:43 PM
Hire a lawyer....a mean one....and let the lawyer stoop to the ex's level.

TMommy's photo
Wed 05/18/16 05:54 PM
did you know that in some states...if you are married and you are a stay at home mom and your husband is the bread winner ..you can hire a lawyer to represent you in the divorce and he might have to foot the bill


ya might want to look into that
just throwing that out there

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Wed 05/18/16 06:20 PM
So this may be TMI for a dating site but my ex husband and I had a meeting in court. I didn't pull any of the low blows I didn't bring in pictures of the bruises or discharge papers from the ER from the teams he beat the crap out of me. But I have had five surgeries in the last two years and in court he said that I was the equivalent of Frankenstein and I couldn't have anymore kids so pretty much "what use am I" it hurt so bad. I'm refusing to stoop his level and after ten years of being together he knows I wouldn't and he know it's a sensitive issue for me so him to bring it up in public was just to humiliate me and be mean. I don't understand how some men can feel macho by being a bully to the mother of their children.


men who bully the mother of their own children Is not a macho

a complete definition of idiot and stupid....!!!

it will get hard before it will feel better ,just move on and go on with your life.
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PacificStar48's photo
Wed 05/18/16 08:05 PM
Wow where do I start or should I even start? Not big on wasting my "breath" on posts that clearly are venting/rants. On the odd chance you want a reality check and real world how too's read but don't expect hearts and flowers.

Blonde does have a serious point about what you post on line is out there for everyone to see and forever. That is one thing if you are a big girl and want to deal with it. It is a whole another thing for the kids you say you love to have to. You can pretty much stake your life on sooner or later your kids are going to see it too. Probably sooner because don't fool yourself cyber bullying trickles down to the kids and they have the misery of you airing their dirty laundry on line and hearing it at school and any other place they hang out. Now they not only have to have a jerk for a Father but a Mom they have to defend for being well in your words Spineless.

Keep in mind this "venting" crap only paints a BIG RED BULLSEYE on them as well as you. Judges and Family Court advocates do not take kindly to Parental Alienation; especially of same sex parents. You have been in court for only a separation and that is WAAAAAAAY different than the divorce or deciding Custody. How would you like to only be able to see your kids with a court officer present and have to pay for that persons professional time?

How would you like to have to pay your husband child support? You withhold information from the court, which is what you have admitted doing, you better be preparing yourself to be spending a few nights in jail for contempt. You have anything that remotely is significant proof you should be running to the "court" and get it on the record. What you call proof and what a court will call proof are two VERY different things. If you did anything that even suggests you fought back you can pretty much forget any settlement. If you have fought / mouth off to "others" they will come out of the wood work like cock roaches. You are deluding yourself if your think he is going to fight fair. The lawyers will get paid, and the court psychiatrists but you may not collect a dime. You are computer literate, you are not can't get pregnant, you are behind a line of millions who are worse off. Fair or Foul you appear to be able to pass for white so you don't even get to play the "minority" card. Judge is going to expect you to go to work in some Obama care office transcribing insurance claims and doing data entry.

Little word to the wise a man who will beat a child's Mother will have no problem with beating a child when they feel like it. And they will hit/punch them more often than not in the face or torso which can cause life long internal damages from deafness , blindness, paraplegia, liver and kidney failure, dietary problems from damaged teeth that will fail over time, not to mention Traumatic Brain Injury so they may never be able to work and support themselves. If he beats you do you think he is going to support a disabled child the rest of their lives? Can you? Especially if your sons have "LEARNED WHAT THEY LIVED" and have poor impulse control to cope with their injuries?

That YOU allowed them to be psychologically damaged by that is on YOU every bit as much as HIM. You might be saving YOUR face at the expense of their's.

Since it sounds like you were married to a bully; at least that is your side of it I will address your accusations/emotions and you take away what you will.

YOU might be Wonderful but you are not Wonder Woman!

This mess did not happen over night and it is not going to suddenly get fixed; even by finding a better man.

Chances are you will go out and find someone the same way you found the one you are trying to get rid of. You can write all the disclaimers you want on a profile but if you sell yourself as a doormat victim then you are just setting yourself up for the next guy who is a smooth talker and wants someone to wipe his feet on. You need some co-dependency counseling and life skills classes in a big way.

Sorry but so the hell what you can't have any more children? Your sole value in life is not to pop out kids like a baby factory. And if all a man wants you for is to be a breeding rabbit you were smart to kick his behind to the curb. And the same goes for one that wants you to back track now that yours are old enough to be in school and you have at least a chance of developing a career. Or heaven forbid building your own Habitat for Humanity home. Besides You can always adopt if you find out someway to pull 5 or 6 million out of your ears but the three you got sound like they will be a challenge to provide for. You are still in the easy stage. Wait until the three you have start eating their way through a shopping cart of food every three days, want to play sports, need braces or $5,000 of wisdom teeth pulled, want a car, or for you to afford insurance for three teenagers, or graduation and college expenses. " Bernie" can promise you free college but even with honor roll grades it is going to set you back some serious coin even for trade school, or community college.

Hate to break it too you even if you ship them off to the military or Job Corps or their Dad their starting pay does not afford them enough for even furnishing a barracks room/apartment, flights home for the holidays, or any kind of civilian clothes. And when they come home it is usually with someone you don't know and they are pregnant since they tend to pick someone with just as unhappy a home life as they have had. Take it from me if you think the kids are going to stop needing you any quicker than it sounds like you are going to need a parent to help you then you want to think again.

And it has nothing to do with growing a back bone. You could have the back bone of King Kong you are not going to get blood out of a turnip. It sounds good on line to say go get and attorney and try to get spousal support now days the court is not going to waste it's time enforcing a support order so you can set at home and pretend you are "Suzy Homemaker".

I'm sorry that you have injuries and I am sure that is going to make life pretty miserable. But you want to scare a future employer or boyfriend off tell them you have a laundry list of "repairs" to pay for. Sure there are supposedly laws written to protect the disabled and they are still poorly enforced and being watered down as we speak. I know I helped write some of them.

You think you are going to be able to survive on Social Insecurity you are deluding yourself. State programs are being whittled away and state economies are going bankrupt so they are making you wait longer, be more profoundly disabled , and be older before you qualify for programs.

CireTom is right about Pecking order and staying in the here and now.

And you can't sell a dead horse so you need to clean up the pitty poo and start focusing on the positives. You can't afford the luxury of self pity.

What you need is a budget and a career goal not pretending Prince Charming is going to rescue you. Not happening.

Chances are you will end up remarried; I will give you that you still have your looks, maybe you will luck out and find a guy who has a couple of kids he wants a "Nanny Mommy" for but if you don't want a Mamma's boy or a has been you are going to have to bring some good cards to the table. And lets face it they are not ones you can tuck in your panties fashion magazine clothes you are about ten years too old for that game.

Since "he" seems to have a fetish about getting women pregnant you can bet he will have a "replacement family" fast enough to make your head swim. Yours may be first in line but he can have as many as he wants and they all get equal shares. Amd I can guarantee you some woman will believe his sob story and drop her drawers on the floor and help him out.

melyssanoriega's photo
Thu 05/19/16 10:03 AM

Wow where do I start or should I even start? Not big on wasting my "breath" on posts that clearly are venting/rants. On the odd chance you want a reality check and real world how too's read but don't expect hearts and flowers.

Blonde does have a serious point about what you post on line is out there for everyone to see and forever. That is one thing if you are a big girl and want to deal with it. It is a whole another thing for the kids you say you love to have to. You can pretty much stake your life on sooner or later your kids are going to see it too. Probably sooner because don't fool yourself cyber bullying trickles down to the kids and they have the misery of you airing their dirty laundry on line and hearing it at school and any other place they hang out. Now they not only have to have a jerk for a Father but a Mom they have to defend for being well in your words Spineless.

Keep in mind this "venting" crap only paints a BIG RED BULLSEYE on them as well as you. Judges and Family Court advocates do not take kindly to Parental Alienation; especially of same sex parents. You have been in court for only a separation and that is WAAAAAAAY different than the divorce or deciding Custody. How would you like to only be able to see your kids with a court officer present and have to pay for that persons professional time?

How would you like to have to pay your husband child support? You withhold information from the court, which is what you have admitted doing, you better be preparing yourself to be spending a few nights in jail for contempt. You have anything that remotely is significant proof you should be running to the "court" and get it on the record. What you call proof and what a court will call proof are two VERY different things. If you did anything that even suggests you fought back you can pretty much forget any settlement. If you have fought / mouth off to "others" they will come out of the wood work like cock roaches. You are deluding yourself if your think he is going to fight fair. The lawyers will get paid, and the court psychiatrists but you may not collect a dime. You are computer literate, you are not can't get pregnant, you are behind a line of millions who are worse off. Fair or Foul you appear to be able to pass for white so you don't even get to play the "minority" card. Judge is going to expect you to go to work in some Obama care office transcribing insurance claims and doing data entry.

Little word to the wise a man who will beat a child's Mother will have no problem with beating a child when they feel like it. And they will hit/punch them more often than not in the face or torso which can cause life long internal damages from deafness , blindness, paraplegia, liver and kidney failure, dietary problems from damaged teeth that will fail over time, not to mention Traumatic Brain Injury so they may never be able to work and support themselves. If he beats you do you think he is going to support a disabled child the rest of their lives? Can you? Especially if your sons have "LEARNED WHAT THEY LIVED" and have poor impulse control to cope with their injuries?

That YOU allowed them to be psychologically damaged by that is on YOU every bit as much as HIM. You might be saving YOUR face at the expense of their's.

Since it sounds like you were married to a bully; at least that is your side of it I will address your accusations/emotions and you take away what you will.

YOU might be Wonderful but you are not Wonder Woman!

This mess did not happen over night and it is not going to suddenly get fixed; even by finding a better man.

Chances are you will go out and find someone the same way you found the one you are trying to get rid of. You can write all the disclaimers you want on a profile but if you sell yourself as a doormat victim then you are just setting yourself up for the next guy who is a smooth talker and wants someone to wipe his feet on. You need some co-dependency counseling and life skills classes in a big way.

Sorry but so the hell what you can't have any more children? Your sole value in life is not to pop out kids like a baby factory. And if all a man wants you for is to be a breeding rabbit you were smart to kick his behind to the curb. And the same goes for one that wants you to back track now that yours are old enough to be in school and you have at least a chance of developing a career. Or heaven forbid building your own Habitat for Humanity home. Besides You can always adopt if you find out someway to pull 5 or 6 million out of your ears but the three you got sound like they will be a challenge to provide for. You are still in the easy stage. Wait until the three you have start eating their way through a shopping cart of food every three days, want to play sports, need braces or $5,000 of wisdom teeth pulled, want a car, or for you to afford insurance for three teenagers, or graduation and college expenses. " Bernie" can promise you free college but even with honor roll grades it is going to set you back some serious coin even for trade school, or community college.

Hate to break it too you even if you ship them off to the military or Job Corps or their Dad their starting pay does not afford them enough for even furnishing a barracks room/apartment, flights home for the holidays, or any kind of civilian clothes. And when they come home it is usually with someone you don't know and they are pregnant since they tend to pick someone with just as unhappy a home life as they have had. Take it from me if you think the kids are going to stop needing you any quicker than it sounds like you are going to need a parent to help you then you want to think again.

And it has nothing to do with growing a back bone. You could have the back bone of King Kong you are not going to get blood out of a turnip. It sounds good on line to say go get and attorney and try to get spousal support now days the court is not going to waste it's time enforcing a support order so you can set at home and pretend you are "Suzy Homemaker".

I'm sorry that you have injuries and I am sure that is going to make life pretty miserable. But you want to scare a future employer or boyfriend off tell them you have a laundry list of "repairs" to pay for. Sure there are supposedly laws written to protect the disabled and they are still poorly enforced and being watered down as we speak. I know I helped write some of them.

You think you are going to be able to survive on Social Insecurity you are deluding yourself. State programs are being whittled away and state economies are going bankrupt so they are making you wait longer, be more profoundly disabled , and be older before you qualify for programs.

CireTom is right about Pecking order and staying in the here and now.

And you can't sell a dead horse so you need to clean up the pitty poo and start focusing on the positives. You can't afford the luxury of self pity.

What you need is a budget and a career goal not pretending Prince Charming is going to rescue you. Not happening.

Chances are you will end up remarried; I will give you that you still have your looks, maybe you will luck out and find a guy who has a couple of kids he wants a "Nanny Mommy" for but if you don't want a Mamma's boy or a has been you are going to have to bring some good cards to the table. And lets face it they are not ones you can tuck in your panties fashion magazine clothes you are about ten years too old for that game.

Since "he" seems to have a fetish about getting women pregnant you can bet he will have a "replacement family" fast enough to make your head swim. Yours may be first in line but he can have as many as he wants and they all get equal shares. Amd I can guarantee you some woman will believe his sob story and drop her drawers on the floor and help him out.




So pacific star I don't know where you got that I am Suzy home maker or living off the state etc. I work in the school district as a substitute teacher and I have my real estate license on the side to do broker price opinions for the banks on foreclosure properties. I'm not rich but all make it.

I don't need any more kids I have two amazing lil men, the point of my post was my husband using this ability to hurt my feelings and I feel after ten years with someone it was a low blow.

But according to you I live in a fantasy world because I believe we should have respect for others. I believed after everything we went through we could have an amicable divorce. You took one paragraph and made a lot of judgements about me.

I am aware he will probably have a replacement family. That is a painful knife in the heart I didn't need to be reminded of. I came onto mingle2 to frankly find a distraction - not to find another "man" I have told everyone I have had conversations with I just would like a friend and someone to talk to.... Most people have been pretty kind but I guess I rubbed you the wrong way.

I appreciate your time.
I'm not looking for "spousal support"
And I believe my kids will grow up to be good boys- now you can move on and attack someone else.

mightymoe's photo
Thu 05/19/16 10:13 AM


Wow where do I start or should I even start? Not big on wasting my "breath" on posts that clearly are venting/rants. On the odd chance you want a reality check and real world how too's read but don't expect hearts and flowers.

Blonde does have a serious point about what you post on line is out there for everyone to see and forever. That is one thing if you are a big girl and want to deal with it. It is a whole another thing for the kids you say you love to have to. You can pretty much stake your life on sooner or later your kids are going to see it too. Probably sooner because don't fool yourself cyber bullying trickles down to the kids and they have the misery of you airing their dirty laundry on line and hearing it at school and any other place they hang out. Now they not only have to have a jerk for a Father but a Mom they have to defend for being well in your words Spineless.

Keep in mind this "venting" crap only paints a BIG RED BULLSEYE on them as well as you. Judges and Family Court advocates do not take kindly to Parental Alienation; especially of same sex parents. You have been in court for only a separation and that is WAAAAAAAY different than the divorce or deciding Custody. How would you like to only be able to see your kids with a court officer present and have to pay for that persons professional time?

How would you like to have to pay your husband child support? You withhold information from the court, which is what you have admitted doing, you better be preparing yourself to be spending a few nights in jail for contempt. You have anything that remotely is significant proof you should be running to the "court" and get it on the record. What you call proof and what a court will call proof are two VERY different things. If you did anything that even suggests you fought back you can pretty much forget any settlement. If you have fought / mouth off to "others" they will come out of the wood work like cock roaches. You are deluding yourself if your think he is going to fight fair. The lawyers will get paid, and the court psychiatrists but you may not collect a dime. You are computer literate, you are not can't get pregnant, you are behind a line of millions who are worse off. Fair or Foul you appear to be able to pass for white so you don't even get to play the "minority" card. Judge is going to expect you to go to work in some Obama care office transcribing insurance claims and doing data entry.

Little word to the wise a man who will beat a child's Mother will have no problem with beating a child when they feel like it. And they will hit/punch them more often than not in the face or torso which can cause life long internal damages from deafness , blindness, paraplegia, liver and kidney failure, dietary problems from damaged teeth that will fail over time, not to mention Traumatic Brain Injury so they may never be able to work and support themselves. If he beats you do you think he is going to support a disabled child the rest of their lives? Can you? Especially if your sons have "LEARNED WHAT THEY LIVED" and have poor impulse control to cope with their injuries?

That YOU allowed them to be psychologically damaged by that is on YOU every bit as much as HIM. You might be saving YOUR face at the expense of their's.

Since it sounds like you were married to a bully; at least that is your side of it I will address your accusations/emotions and you take away what you will.

YOU might be Wonderful but you are not Wonder Woman!

This mess did not happen over night and it is not going to suddenly get fixed; even by finding a better man.

Chances are you will go out and find someone the same way you found the one you are trying to get rid of. You can write all the disclaimers you want on a profile but if you sell yourself as a doormat victim then you are just setting yourself up for the next guy who is a smooth talker and wants someone to wipe his feet on. You need some co-dependency counseling and life skills classes in a big way.

Sorry but so the hell what you can't have any more children? Your sole value in life is not to pop out kids like a baby factory. And if all a man wants you for is to be a breeding rabbit you were smart to kick his behind to the curb. And the same goes for one that wants you to back track now that yours are old enough to be in school and you have at least a chance of developing a career. Or heaven forbid building your own Habitat for Humanity home. Besides You can always adopt if you find out someway to pull 5 or 6 million out of your ears but the three you got sound like they will be a challenge to provide for. You are still in the easy stage. Wait until the three you have start eating their way through a shopping cart of food every three days, want to play sports, need braces or $5,000 of wisdom teeth pulled, want a car, or for you to afford insurance for three teenagers, or graduation and college expenses. " Bernie" can promise you free college but even with honor roll grades it is going to set you back some serious coin even for trade school, or community college.

Hate to break it too you even if you ship them off to the military or Job Corps or their Dad their starting pay does not afford them enough for even furnishing a barracks room/apartment, flights home for the holidays, or any kind of civilian clothes. And when they come home it is usually with someone you don't know and they are pregnant since they tend to pick someone with just as unhappy a home life as they have had. Take it from me if you think the kids are going to stop needing you any quicker than it sounds like you are going to need a parent to help you then you want to think again.

And it has nothing to do with growing a back bone. You could have the back bone of King Kong you are not going to get blood out of a turnip. It sounds good on line to say go get and attorney and try to get spousal support now days the court is not going to waste it's time enforcing a support order so you can set at home and pretend you are "Suzy Homemaker".

I'm sorry that you have injuries and I am sure that is going to make life pretty miserable. But you want to scare a future employer or boyfriend off tell them you have a laundry list of "repairs" to pay for. Sure there are supposedly laws written to protect the disabled and they are still poorly enforced and being watered down as we speak. I know I helped write some of them.

You think you are going to be able to survive on Social Insecurity you are deluding yourself. State programs are being whittled away and state economies are going bankrupt so they are making you wait longer, be more profoundly disabled , and be older before you qualify for programs.

CireTom is right about Pecking order and staying in the here and now.

And you can't sell a dead horse so you need to clean up the pitty poo and start focusing on the positives. You can't afford the luxury of self pity.

What you need is a budget and a career goal not pretending Prince Charming is going to rescue you. Not happening.

Chances are you will end up remarried; I will give you that you still have your looks, maybe you will luck out and find a guy who has a couple of kids he wants a "Nanny Mommy" for but if you don't want a Mamma's boy or a has been you are going to have to bring some good cards to the table. And lets face it they are not ones you can tuck in your panties fashion magazine clothes you are about ten years too old for that game.

Since "he" seems to have a fetish about getting women pregnant you can bet he will have a "replacement family" fast enough to make your head swim. Yours may be first in line but he can have as many as he wants and they all get equal shares. Amd I can guarantee you some woman will believe his sob story and drop her drawers on the floor and help him out.




So pacific star I don't know where you got that I am Suzy home maker or living off the state etc. I work in the school district as a substitute teacher and I have my real estate license on the side to do broker price opinions for the banks on foreclosure properties. I'm not rich but all make it.

I don't need any more kids I have two amazing lil men, the point of my post was my husband using this ability to hurt my feelings and I feel after ten years with someone it was a low blow.

But according to you I live in a fantasy world because I believe we should have respect for others. I believed after everything we went through we could have an amicable divorce. You took one paragraph and made a lot of judgements about me.

I am aware he will probably have a replacement family. That is a painful knife in the heart I didn't need to be reminded of. I came onto mingle2 to frankly find a distraction - not to find another "man" I have told everyone I have had conversations with I just would like a friend and someone to talk to.... Most people have been pretty kind but I guess I rubbed you the wrong way.

I appreciate your time.
I'm not looking for "spousal support"
And I believe my kids will grow up to be good boys- now you can move on and attack someone else.


you brought all your heartaches up, not anyone else... looks like you want people just to agree with you, and not offer any advise... good luck with that...

melyssanoriega's photo
Thu 05/19/16 10:39 AM
Wasent looking for someone to tell me I'm lazy and trying to get spousal support and that my kids will grow up to be messed up. Well anyways I am gonna try to delete the whole thread.

mightymoe's photo
Thu 05/19/16 10:51 AM

Wasent looking for someone to tell me I'm lazy and trying to get spousal support and that my kids will grow up to be messed up. Well anyways I am gonna try to delete the whole thread.


good luck with that as well... she wasn't trying be hurtful, thats just the way you took it...

on an open forum, people are going to give their opinions, and that's exactly what they are, OPINIONS...that backbone you wanted to grow isn't growing, if you can't handle an opinion that you don't like...