Topic: Hillary Speaks....oh hell yeah!!!....
davinci1952's photo
Tue 11/20/07 08:01 PM
voileazur...I could care less how many "f" words were used...I think it displays an arrogance that certainly should be called into question...do we want leaders that display such disregard for those that work for them?...it doesnt matter if its Hillary or Bush..or Guilani or whoever....it's the arrogance I find offensive...of course they are the "ruling class" and are certainly much better than us peons dont you think...

if I had a way to post Guilani prancing around in drag I would do that in a minute...Or McCain singing Bomb bomb bomb Iran (sans Beach Boys) I would post that...

I would vote for a qualified woman for president..no problem...But Hillary is not qualified..

Fanta46's photo
Tue 11/20/07 08:15 PM

I don't care what anyone thinks.... I said it before and I'll say it again. Hillary will be a GREAT LEADER for CANADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Tue 11/20/07 08:18 PM
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Tue 11/20/07 08:38 PM

Hey 'spider',

WTF are you doing here 'sweetheart'?!?!? Trying out the real world!!!

Get real here buddy, and stop highjacking the threads.

This is 'current news and events'. If you wish to deal with this issue from a 'biblical' and moral perspective, start a thread on the 'religious chat' forum. Hillary cussing at bodyguard, or Cheney cussing at a Senator, same cussing.

Apart from possibly Ford and Carter, all other presidents in recent history are expert 'cussers'.

Applying 'apologetics' and 'fallacious circular logic' to politics, just makes it 'dirty' politics.

You wouldn't want to do anything dirty now, would you 'spider'?!?!?

Again, to avoid twisting the topic into a spiderweb, move it, as a host, to the 'religion chat', and call it 'degrees of cussing'!!!


I didn't mention the Bible or God. My point is that the person who is going to be taking a bullet to save your life deserves respect. To compare Cheney dropping the "f" bomb on a senator who had just insulted him to Hilliary cussing out a bodyguard who is trying to do his job? You have a very loose grip on reality. The two don't compare, the person who is protecting your life always deserves respect.

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Tue 11/20/07 08:51 PM
Davinci wrote:


voileazur...
I think it displays an arrogance that certainly should be called into question...do we want leaders that display such disregard for those that work for them?...

I would vote for a qualified woman for president..no problem...But Hillary is not qualified..


Davinci,

Given that what is meant by arrogance is this sense 'superiority' of sort, I have no problem agreeing with you, and finding it just as unbecoming as you do.

However unbecoming it may be though, how does that equate with competency?

And if it is a point which harbors more on the side of the values wished for the occupant of the white house, how can we arrive at scoring the unique competencies and personnality traits of a president, in a person showing no hint of an 'overinflated ego', from which the arrogance would invariably shine!

I don't disagree wit you Davinci, that it would be preferable, ideally, to elect an arrogance free president. Just not sure sure how that would happen.

As for the competnecy of HC, and I'm not partisan one bit, where is the objective (know there is a lot of subjective stuff) evidence which estblishes clearly that she would not be competent for the job? Just honestly asking Davinci.


davinci1952's photo
Tue 11/20/07 09:15 PM
She may be more than qualified to direct legislation or bend elbows on the hill to get things done...sure thats good....but as leader of this country does she have the moral fiber..or reflect the moral fiber of the people she may be leading...Very doubtful from her actions...I had a gunnerysgt tell me in the marines once....that there are good sgt's and good nco's....one knows all the facts...can recite verse...the other knows their people..and their people will follow him/her because of trust...

can we trust Hillary?...doubtful ....

Fanta46's photo
Tue 11/20/07 09:19 PM
45 days till the first primary!

and, Hillary is losing grnd in N Hampshire,

Iowa has an awful record of voting for women,
even in local elections,

and the gloves are coming off,

Obama remarks,
my "strongest" foreign policy experience
came from living in Indonesia as a child.

Hillary counters with,
I have "traveled the world on behalf of our country
first in the White House with my husband, and
now as a senator.

I've met with countless world leaders,
and know many of them personally."

Its winding up!!!laugh laugh laugh



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Wed 11/21/07 10:16 PM
My dad gave me the book "Unlimited Access" to read shortly after it came out. It's a real eye-opener....written by a former Secret Service agent. I was appalled at some of the things he reported going on in the White House. It was disgusting, and very unnerving how the security system, reference checking, and background checks systems were basically dismantled or ignored......
She is not a person I would trust for ANYTHING...and woman or not....I would never in a million years vote for her.

blankpage's photo
Thu 11/22/07 11:27 AM
Honestly, the pool of candidates isn't so great this voting term. But I am voting Hilary in '08. I believe she would do the best job for our country.
Please no more republicans....

Fanta46's photo
Thu 11/22/07 11:59 AM
Voting simply for who we feel would do the best job for our country was what put Bush in Office!

I respect that you are exerciseing your right to vote, and I respect your choice of candidate, but please keep an open mind and be as sure as you possibly can that Hillary is the right person!!drinker

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Thu 11/22/07 07:14 PM

Back when Bush Jr started running for president I told everyone he would never make it. He was an idiot that had bankrupted many companies. The only thing he had going for him was his name. Well boy was I wrong. You can really ride a name a far way in this crazy for fame country. It has been the most painful years of my life. Now here we are today and the shoe is on the other foot. All you republican idiots get to watch Hillary ride into office on her name alone. I will be enjoying every minute as you guys squirm away. The only difference is she will actually do a good job and fix some of this crap Bush has made. So it ain't all bad it just feels that way to you.laugh

Fanta46's photo
Thu 11/22/07 07:15 PM
John Edwards!!!drinker drinker bigsmile

bigbayhrsrider's photo
Thu 11/22/07 07:23 PM
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i came i read i pondered.. now i ask...
whats it take to be QUALIFIED?

davinci1952's photo
Thu 11/22/07 08:21 PM
Ron Paul is qualified......

Fanta46's photo
Fri 11/23/07 07:33 AM
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How was Turkey Day davinci!drinker

adj4u's photo
Fri 11/23/07 07:55 AM

davinci1952,

Nothing personnal here, but what exactly is the point of the post on the various ways of using the '****' word?!?!?

A male presidential candidate doing it, points to a strong and decisive 'don't **** with me' kind of leadership quality, ...

... but the same from a woman candidate, is pure hysteria?!?!

Or are you going to tell me that this insignificant, personnal and impertinent information is on the contrary, very pertinent, so people can make up their mind on the 'finer' character traits of the candidate!?!?

Are you suggesting that insignificant matter of never having uttered the word '****', or any of its declinations, is a pre-requisite above other fundamental traits.

Pushing something downward, never promotes something to rise up!!!

If Hillary isn't one's choice, let one speak about and promote one's choice. That simple?!?!?

Maybe not?!?!? It's obviously not catching!!!



she is degrading and expecting people to be her boy

if that was anyone else in the public eye it would

be all over the news and they would be publicly humiliated

what she has done is just a bad as using the n word

in an inappropriate manner

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wonder how much it cost to fly that chopper back

to get those sunglasses (tax money)

just a thought but how much more will be wasted

by her not doing what she needs to do for her

and it was her fault she forgot them not the chopper driver

just a sign of not being responsible for her

own actions

but hey what do i know

adj4u's photo
Fri 11/23/07 11:05 PM
left ya speechless again i see

wow no one defending here since friday morning

interesting

very interesting

Fanta46's photo
Fri 11/23/07 11:10 PM

She is dangerous and reckless and has did nothing productive but line her pockets as a senator. Name her accomplishments. Name just one.


She maintained her cigars when Bill lost his!!!!laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

She made Senator in a State she didnt even hale from!:wink:
Just to add to her resume for this job.

Shes been being groomed for this race for sometime!
Other than that diddily squat!!!!grumble grumble

Fanta46's photo
Fri 11/23/07 11:11 PM
Oh and accept a lot of money from corporate interests!!!

Cant forget that one!!!drinker

Jura_Neat_Please's photo
Fri 11/23/07 11:32 PM
Edited by Jura_Neat_Please on Fri 11/23/07 11:33 PM
Both Hilary and Bill should be in prison if not brought before a firing squad for treason of the highest order. They sold our nations national security to the communist Chinese, they let Bin Laden go not once, but twice. They offered little meaningful response to terrorism against our nation and our service personnel. They wrecked the healthcare system and we are still paying for that. They trashed the Whitehouse on their way out and stole items that belong to us, the American people.

I am fed up with people defending these two because Bill was impeached for LYING TO CONGRESS, not for a blowjob. Its about time the let it go already. Face the truth. The Clintons were a disaster the first time around, America will be doomed should they be reelected. You want to see an economy like we had during Carter? You want to see radical Islam take over? Go ahead, vote for them. Anybody but a Republican? Really? Anybody? Please, if your that ill informed, don't vote at all.