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Topic: Women's cleavage
Tom4Uhere's photo
Thu 07/01/21 06:24 AM
BooBs!!

When I was in early puberty and never really saw/noticed them they were very wonderful to look at. Before I was married BooBs were a big deal to me.
As I got older, saw most other men my age and how they reacted to BooBs I started to realize the attraction was associated with their mothers. The desire to nurse like a baby.
My attraction really started to fall away after I saw my wife nursing my kids.
While It was an act of love, she was not really turned on by it.

Personally, I've been a legs & butt man for a very long time. A nice butt and toned shapely legs turns me on far stronger than breasts.
I notice proportional bodies so a woman in a beautiful dress with a toned body I see as a whole package.
If her breasts are out of proportion to the rest of her, it turns me off. I've seen women with rather small breasts which turn me on because it looks right, compliments her physique and how she carries herself.

Some men are turned on by big butts. Again, I like them toned and proportional.
I also prefer women in normal clothing over high fashion.
I'm attracted to the 'natural look' not some preprogrammed media induced image. I loved the 'short-short' craze of my youth but some women need to stay away from that because they don't have the body for it.
The same with bathing suits, some women don't look good in bikinis but wear them anyway because they have been programmed to think women always look good in bikinis.

I've seen heavyset women who are attracted because they look proportional and carry themselves well. I've seen thin women who look terrible and the super-skinny model is a turn off for me.
I've seen thin women that make me want to walk up and push on the back of their heads to see if they topple over from the unequal weight distribution.
Some look like they carry around flotation devices on their chests.

Frankly, I'm way more attracted to the baby making zone than the food deliver system.
Which brings me to hips.
I can usually tell if a woman has given birth by their hips. I find hips very sexy, especially when they have been subjected to birthing a child. It signals fertility to me. At 60 years old, I see women under 45 as children and I am not turned on by imagining a child as sexy. Oh, generally speaking young women can be sexy but I am not really turned on, more of an appreciation to the beauty of their form.
The women I prefer have sagging chests, a bit of belly and wide hips.
I'd still rather see them in shorts, sandals and a comfortable top. If they have the legs, a nice flowing skirt is also a big turn on, especially with heels. It causes their legs and rump to show nice tones.

Since I'm most attracted to the everyday, natural look of a woman, formal attire, with or without plunging necklines has little appeal. Most of the time, I never look twice.
As for make-up and hair-dos, I prefer the shower fresh look (and smell) of women.

But hey, I'm weird and I don't care.

Tom4Uhere's photo
Thu 07/01/21 06:29 AM
Oh, btw, Blondey, yer scrubs would turn me on because of my imagination of what would be under them. Baggy clothing on women is a super turn on because it entices the imagination. Nothing is hotter than seeing a ballet dancer wearing baggy clothing!

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Thu 07/01/21 06:39 AM

BooBs!!

When I was in early puberty and never really saw/noticed them they were very wonderful to look at. Before I was married BooBs were a big deal to me.
As I got older, saw most other men my age and how they reacted to BooBs I started to realize the attraction was associated with their mothers. The desire to nurse like a baby.
My attraction really started to fall away after I saw my wife nursing my kids.
While It was an act of love, she was not really turned on by it.

Personally, I've been a legs & butt man for a very long time. A nice butt and toned shapely legs turns me on far stronger than breasts.
I notice proportional bodies so a woman in a beautiful dress with a toned body I see as a whole package.
If her breasts are out of proportion to the rest of her, it turns me off. I've seen women with rather small breasts which turn me on because it looks right, compliments her physique and how she carries herself.

Some men are turned on by big butts. Again, I like them toned and proportional.
I also prefer women in normal clothing over high fashion.
I'm attracted to the 'natural look' not some preprogrammed media induced image. I loved the 'short-short' craze of my youth but some women need to stay away from that because they don't have the body for it.
The same with bathing suits, some women don't look good in bikinis but wear them anyway because they have been programmed to think women always look good in bikinis.

I've seen heavyset women who are attracted because they look proportional and carry themselves well. I've seen thin women who look terrible and the super-skinny model is a turn off for me.
I've seen thin women that make me want to walk up and push on the back of their heads to see if they topple over from the unequal weight distribution.
Some look like they carry around flotation devices on their chests.

Frankly, I'm way more attracted to the baby making zone than the food deliver system.
Which brings me to hips.
I can usually tell if a woman has given birth by their hips. I find hips very sexy, especially when they have been subjected to birthing a child. It signals fertility to me. At 60 years old, I see women under 45 as children and I am not turned on by imagining a child as sexy. Oh, generally speaking young women can be sexy but I am not really turned on, more of an appreciation to the beauty of their form.
The women I prefer have sagging chests, a bit of belly and wide hips.
I'd still rather see them in shorts, sandals and a comfortable top. If they have the legs, a nice flowing skirt is also a big turn on, especially with heels. It causes their legs and rump to show nice tones.

Since I'm most attracted to the everyday, natural look of a woman, formal attire, with or without plunging necklines has little appeal. Most of the time, I never look twice.
As for make-up and hair-dos, I prefer the shower fresh look (and smell) of women.

But hey, I'm weird and I don't care.


So how about the topic question: would you be okay if your woman would wear something -out in public- that almost has her breasts fully exposed? How would you feel about that?

Tom4Uhere's photo
Thu 07/01/21 06:57 AM
Oh, I'm sorry, I got distracted...

No, like already said, I wouldn't be in a relationship with a woman who is not sexually secure. I'm attracted to the woman who "knows" they are sexy and doesn't 'have to' prove it to the world.

The special is the fact its 'just for me, in private'.
I also don't fantasize about sex in public places but showing affection to someone you love is natural no matter where you are.

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Thu 07/01/21 08:08 AM

Oh, I'm sorry, I got distracted...

No, like already said, I wouldn't be in a relationship with a woman who is not sexually secure. I'm attracted to the woman who "knows" they are sexy and doesn't 'have to' prove it to the world.

The special is the fact its 'just for me, in private'.
I also don't fantasize about sex in public places but showing affection to someone you love is natural no matter where you are.

Thank you. I feel the same way to be honest about the "just for me, in private" when it comes to things like that, in my case concerning a man of course.

And getting distracted isn't a problem. It was an interesting read :) And I think many men are with you on what you find attractive etc.
flowerforyou

Kevin's photo
Thu 07/01/21 10:13 AM


Ever wondered why curves draw our attention or admiration? Why do curves come before straight lines in a human form where attraction is concerned?

That's the thing... breasts and other curves are part of the subconscious bodyscan to fathom fertility and capability to feed offspring.
Therefor breasts and curve of the hips are scanned, among other things. Hips as narrow hips could indicate not being able to have a baby pass through the birthcanal.

These things go back to ancient times and are part of the primal thing we do subconsciously.
Women do a similar scan of the male body, also to fathom fertility, ability to protect and so on.

I appreciate your observation :thumbsup:

Kevin's photo
Thu 07/01/21 10:18 AM

Ever wondered why curves draw our attention or admiration? Why do curves come before straight lines in a human form where attraction is concerned?

Though we are accustomed to view in rectangular frames, yet when the the registration of vision is concerned, it finds the movement along curved lines much more soothing!

Doug's photo
Thu 07/01/21 10:52 AM
I like for my woman to dress up and look good, maybe even just a little sexy when going out in public. Makes me proud to have such a lady on my arm, and if some dudes eye her just a bit, all the better. In fact, I would tolerate and enjoy her looking more sexy when going out WITH me as opposed to going out WITHOUT me. BUT and this is a big BUT. There is a limit to that. If she is showing too much cleavage or too much thigh or her clothes just hug her a bit too tightly, that is not OK. Where do you draw the line? That's very subjective, and each couple and even situation is different. I think the lady should be very aware of her man's feelings and the man should be very open and honest. He should speak up in a respectful manner, not confrontational, that "honey, that blouse just looks a little too see-through and that makes me a bit uncomfortable. Would you mind changing?" The lady should absolutely respect his feelings and change into something more modest. In fact, if there is any doubt at all, the lady should ask her man what he thinks. There is also a bit of a burden on the man to allow his lady a certain amount of flexibility to express her own personality and yes,her own sexuality. After all, that's what separates the genders and makes us attractive to each other.
It all comes down to trust and honesty.

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Thu 07/01/21 11:33 AM

I like for my woman to dress up and look good, maybe even just a little sexy when going out in public. Makes me proud to have such a lady on my arm, and if some dudes eye her just a bit, all the better. In fact, I would tolerate and enjoy her looking more sexy when going out WITH me as opposed to going out WITHOUT me. BUT and this is a big BUT. There is a limit to that. If she is showing too much cleavage or too much thigh or her clothes just hug her a bit too tightly, that is not OK. Where do you draw the line? That's very subjective, and each couple and even situation is different. I think the lady should be very aware of her man's feelings and the man should be very open and honest. He should speak up in a respectful manner, not confrontational, that "honey, that blouse just looks a little too see-through and that makes me a bit uncomfortable. Would you mind changing?" The lady should absolutely respect his feelings and change into something more modest. In fact, if there is any doubt at all, the lady should ask her man what he thinks. There is also a bit of a burden on the man to allow his lady a certain amount of flexibility to express her own personality and yes,her own sexuality. After all, that's what separates the genders and makes us attractive to each other.
It all comes down to trust and honesty.

Wow, so you're all about "man owns woman and man controls woman"?

I think if views on what's okay and what not vary a lot, it means norms & values are too much apart to be compatible as a couple.


Tom4Uhere's photo
Thu 07/01/21 12:36 PM
Everyone hears the beat of a different drummer.
When it comes to what one person or another will tolerate or enjoy, its subject to that individual. Whatever works for them is fine.

When you are lucky enough, smart enough?, to find another person with whom your values and tastes align that's great. Its all really about alignment when it comes to relationships.

Believe it or not, sexuality changes during life. What might have been acceptable when we're younger may no longer be acceptable as we mature and gain wisdom.

There's also timing and location involved. Wearing a bikini on a hot day at the beach is different than wearing a bikini at church or during a funeral.

Plus there's the argument of self-esteem and needing someone else to prop up your image or confidence. A confident, well dressed woman who carries herself well and acts with a sense of presence trumps a sleazy chick in a low cut dress with big boobs that has the personality of a 5 year old.

The honest, natural presence of my gf pleases me. I don't care what others think. I know what I have and I like it...a lot! Her breasts are a bit on the larger side but she is in her 50s, had children and no longer works out like in her youth. But, I'm not the specimen I was in my youth either.
You either accept reality or you live in turmoil over things you just can't change. Wanna always look good...Die Young!

no photo
Thu 07/01/21 12:46 PM

Everyone hears the beat of a different drummer.
When it comes to what one person or another will tolerate or enjoy, its subject to that individual. Whatever works for them is fine.

When you are lucky enough, smart enough?, to find another person with whom your values and tastes align that's great. Its all really about alignment when it comes to relationships.

Believe it or not, sexuality changes during life. What might have been acceptable when we're younger may no longer be acceptable as we mature and gain wisdom.

There's also timing and location involved. Wearing a bikini on a hot day at the beach is different than wearing a bikini at church or during a funeral.

Plus there's the argument of self-esteem and needing someone else to prop up your image or confidence. A confident, well dressed woman who carries herself well and acts with a sense of presence trumps a sleazy chick in a low cut dress with big boobs that has the personality of a 5 year old.

The honest, natural presence of my gf pleases me. I don't care what others think. I know what I have and I like it...a lot! Her breasts are a bit on the larger side but she is in her 50s, had children and no longer works out like in her youth. But, I'm not the specimen I was in my youth either.
You either accept reality or you live in turmoil over things you just can't change. Wanna always look good...Die Young!


You are so wise Tom. Every day I listen to the radio to find the "Tom song" for your thread....still have not found it. I am sure your lady treasures you. :heart:

maybwecan's photo
Thu 07/01/21 01:50 PM
Reminds me of a first date where cleavage was not the issue but "dirty dancing" was, especially with others...she remarked that was her dance style...I didn't burn brain cells afterwards...I said we are not a good match and moved on without a rear view mirror glance...I considered any other reaction with her to be my attempt to manipulate her or impose some behaviour requirement which was not reality...

I would treat the cleavage issue similarly...Any match I have requires accepting and enjoying the reality of my partner...Would not be the end of my world if we encountered an issue which resulted in a decision to move on...Much better than remaining and witnessing the fermentation of a once sweet relationship into a toxic brew

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Thu 07/01/21 02:30 PM

Reminds me of a first date where cleavage was not the issue but "dirty dancing" was, especially with others...she remarked that was her dance style...I didn't burn brain cells afterwards...I said we are not a good match and moved on without a rear view mirror glance...I considered any other reaction with her to be my attempt to manipulate her or impose some behaviour requirement which was not reality...

I would treat the cleavage issue similarly...Any match I have requires accepting and enjoying the reality of my partner...Would not be the end of my world if we encountered an issue which resulted in a decision to move on...Much better than remaining and witnessing the fermentation of a once sweet relationship into a toxic brew

Yep, sometimes better to part ways.
I had a thing with my ex. He walked around naked in his house. First time I saw that I thought he was just showing off. But then I discovered he always did that. To be honest, not my thing.
But then he walked to the back, drew the curtains and opened the double patio doors and stood in the door opening, stark naked.
My jaw dropped. The house of his neighbours at the back was a mere 15 meters away: small gardens and built like a small close. He was in full view for anyone upstairs over there, including kids.

I could not believe it. I'm not a prude, but that's just not for me.
I didn't end things right away, but the relationship fell apart shortly thereafter regardless.

Kevin's photo
Thu 07/01/21 06:11 PM
Edited by Kevin on Thu 07/01/21 06:13 PM


Reminds me of a first date where cleavage was not the issue but "dirty dancing" was, especially with others...she remarked that was her dance style...I didn't burn brain cells afterwards...I said we are not a good match and moved on without a rear view mirror glance...I considered any other reaction with her to be my attempt to manipulate her or impose some behaviour requirement which was not reality...

I would treat the cleavage issue similarly...Any match I have requires accepting and enjoying the reality of my partner...Would not be the end of my world if we encountered an issue which resulted in a decision to move on...Much better than remaining and witnessing the fermentation of a once sweet relationship into a toxic brew

Yep, sometimes better to part ways.
I had a thing with my ex. He walked around naked in his house. First time I saw that I thought he was just showing off. But then I discovered he always did that. To be honest, not my thing.
But then he walked to the back, drew the curtains and opened the double patio doors and stood in the door opening, stark naked.
My jaw dropped. The house of his neighbours at the back was a mere 15 meters away: small gardens and built like a small close. He was in full view for anyone upstairs over there, including kids.

I could not believe it. I'm not a prude, but that's just not for me.
I didn't end things right away, but the relationship fell apart shortly thereafter regardless.

Yes, exhibitionism is not the same as nudism or naturism.

Rock's photo
Thu 07/01/21 09:59 PM
As I so eloquently stated earlier.
It's about modesty.

If I wanted to date a woman who's game is to
show it to everyone, I'd date a stripper.

Truthfully, I prefer more of an Amish look.

no photo
Thu 07/01/21 11:22 PM
Well I'm not into party clothes so...but I do like to wear a nice hoodie zipped down a wee bit so the twins can get some air lol

no photo
Thu 07/01/21 11:30 PM

Well I'm not into party clothes so...but I do like to wear a nice hoodie zipped down a wee bit so the twins can get some air lol


Lol x

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Fri 07/02/21 01:58 PM

Well I'm not into party clothes so...but I do like to wear a nice hoodie zipped down a wee bit so the twins can get some air lol

laugh
You gotta take care of the girls!

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