And I predict that your prediction is only 99.9% correct.

(0.1% is going to be lost due to the turmoil with implementation...)

Actually, I am very carefull about making hasty predictions -- especially the written/tiped ones:

THEY MIGHT AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF THE REAL EVENTS...

Often, I can have a fleeting thought... -- and then something happens just as I thought -- and I'm tortured with the conjectures:
was that just a coincidence, or has it happened because I thought of it? ? ?

However, when I first heard of the date, 2012, I couldn't imagine people would fall for it!

* * * Mark my word -- and you can bet any amount of money --

there might be am electro-magnetic storm, i.e. radios might lose the signal... But that's about the worst that will hapen!!!

In the words of Eistein himsef:

WOW!! I thought that I was the only one who understood this. I myself have has many times where my gut has told me one thing and I would completely ignore it only to learn in the end that my gut feeling was the right one. I've also had problems with people arise and while I'm thinking about it my head plays out exactly what happened although I was not there. For instance, my cell phone was stolen out of my car once. I had left in there by accident and was inside my apartment for only fifteen minutes before I realized that I forgot it and the doors were unlocked. While I was going through my mind of what could've possibly happened (I could have dropped it, left it at work or any number of things) I got a vision almost of one of my neighbors sitting in my car and going through my glove box, almost like a dream. I asked my boyfriend at the time to go to this guys house and check because I didn't want to accuse him if I didn't really know. Sure enough my cell phone was on his coffee table.
Everyone has these feelings, we are just so programmed from a young age to "think logically" and we dismiss all of our intuitive feelings. Once we stop "thinking" and start listing our bodies will always lead us to the solutions. Another example for me is when I loose something. If I have misplaced say, my car keys, I stop and push out any thoughts and say okay keys where are you. Then I just walk and everytime I found what I was looking for. Sometimes it takes longer than others, especially if I am distracted but I always find it.
We all have that inside of us. We have gotten so far off from where we were thousands of years ago. This information is nothing new, our ancestors knew this and a lot more. We have deluded ourselves with technology and the misleading way of thinking that we know everything there is to know when we actually don't know anything!

Jane is a smart cookie. She comes up with interesting subjects and has a unique perspective on most things.

Hey, welcome back, Joe!
How was your trip?
BTW, have any of my predictions regarding your trip actually come true?

P.S. thanx for your preise!

I had a blast. Did you predict I would unsuccessfully mix red wine and tequila? My intuition wasn't working well on that one ... didn't work too well afterwards either. The mix produces a heightened level of unconsciousness.

Not quite, though I did predict your trip would be a success...
And, since you were in the mood to party, I presume I've been correct in my prediction!

i am going to give this thread one more shot, only because i find it every interesting.

from as long as i remember i have i listened to the little voice, the gut feeling...it got me out situations that i know would have gone wrong...on two separate and unrelated occasions i listened and i know if i didnt, i would have been really hurt...and that was before age 8...

i don't over analyze that feeling, i just listen to it. it helps me in my every day life as well as in making decisions. i have learned to listen and watch for cues exchanged...

i try to teach my girls to listen that that inner voice, because i believe it is a powerful tool we posses.

Excellent attitude, Edy.
Though I hope you exercise enough control over your girls -- don't let them exercise their inner voice advises, yet, without first confirming with you! Assuming they're in pre/early teens, they may not be fully ready to anticipate all of the remifications...

Good luck!

my girls just turned ten so they are still very young. we do exercises where we practice listening to our inner voices, and we go over the feelings, consequences, end results etc.

i want my girls to to be open-minded to what surrounds them...

*** Even Einstein said that most of his innovation was actually just good guessing. A talent is something that some people are born with while others have to work at it.

*** One of the ways of developing your intuition is to use it:
just follow your hunches and see if it gets you the desired result.***********************
By following through on your everyday hunches, you are actually taking test drives, virtually honing in on your listening skills. These skills will serve you well. Everyone is apparently somewhat psychic, but many people just have flabby psychic muscles. Learning to listen to your inner dialog tones and strengthens this muscle. The more you use your intuition the better you get at it. When we choose to ignore our gut instincts, we are only hurting ourselves.***

The body is made of consciousness. This implies that by the will and the intention we place upon ourselves, we can affect our bodies directly. Our bodies, when broken down to their smallest levels are also energetic frequencies. * * *

"I maintain that cosmic religious feeling is the strongest and noblest incitement to scientific research"— Albert Einstein.

Einstein himself admitted that what he did best was being good at guessing.*** He implied that what he chose to pay attention to was an aesthetic choice. Even still, as much as 80% of the mass of the universe is apparently unaccounted for, in spite of such elegant theories of the universe. Mankind has not only became aware of the complexity of the physical world but also of the limitations of the scientific method. * * * * * *

Apparently the most direct way to find new physics of a grand unification is to go to ever-higher energy and explore completely uncharted territory. There seems to be an intrinsically interwoven relationship between Modern Science and Mysticism, because both involve some of the deep and fundamental questions of our very existence. * * *


We "know" things yet we don't always know how we know. All these experiences have a reality in the energy field. Our old world of solid concrete objects is surrounded by and permeated with a fluid world of radiating energy, constantly moving, constantly changing like the sea.

*** There is a "knowing" that what we are experiencing is real but we are equally bewildered that our social institutions have somehow missed explaining this experience altogether. We are reduced to having mere "faith" in what we know because there is no solid body of proof behind it. Yet by looking only through a lens of reason we limit our ability to look beyond what has been defined by it.

Intuitions, or gut feelings, are sudden, strong judgments whose origin we can't immediately explain. Although they seem to emerge from an obscure inner force, they actually begin with a perception of something outside--a facial expression, a tone of voice, a visual inconsistency so fleeting you're not even aware you noticed.

Think of them as rapid cognition or condensed reasoning that takes advantage of the brain's built-in shortcuts. Or think of intuition as an unconscious associative process. _ _ _ _ _*******

The gut itself literally feeds gut feelings; think of butterflies in the stomach when a decision is pending. The gut has millions of nerve cells and, through them, a "mind of its own," Still, gut feelings do not originate there, but in signals from the brain.

Intuition can be described as 'almost immediate situation understanding' as opposed to 'immediate knowledge.' Understanding is filled with emotion. We don't obtain knowledge of love, danger, or joy; we feel them in a meaningful way."

* Encased in certainty, intuitions compel us to act in specific ways, and those who lack intuition are essentially cognitively paralyzed. <*************************

Listening to your intuition is the essence of art and creativity and soulful living.
* * *Intuition is what you use to find the purpose of your life and your place in the world.
------>>> Masters tell us that through the practice of stilling the mind we allow ourselves to develop new sensitivities.

----> We're only limited by the concept of limitation we hold in our minds!!! We all have intuition. We are born with it. We use it as children we do not know any better. We go on our instinct or gut. But as we grow older and our rational and reasonable mind develops, we lose touch with our intuition. We ignore it, cast it aside forget about it. But like an out-of-shape muscle, intuition can be strengthened and exercised back into shape.

"... we are the gods that our ancestors told stories about. We fly from one part of the globe to another in a matter of hours; we instantly communicate over thousands of miles; we can commit mayhem in moments, move mountains in minutes, and every night we sit in front of our magic picture box and find out what all the other gods are up to.... We are magnified through space and time, our senses enlarged, our whims accelerated.... We are at a time in human history and planetary development when we are becoming aware of the stupendous unconscious knowledge and skillful orchestration that is going on in ourselves as well as in the outer cosmos all the time. We are at a crossing point in human history..."

"Everything around us (including our own bodies, which appear so substantial) is ultimately nothing but ephemeral networks of particle-waves whirling around at tremendous speeds, colliding, rebounding, disintegrating in almost total emptiness. What we call matter is mostly emptiness, proportionately as void as intergalactic space, void of anything except occasional dust spots and scattered electric charges. Any single one of the roughly 1027 atoms in the average human body has almost all its mass concentrated in a nucleus so small that if all the nuclei of all the atoms that make up the whole of humankind were packed together, their aggregate would be the size of a grain of rice." -from THE SEARCH FOR THE BELOVED by Jean Houston. p.20.

Good post Jane.

[quote[*** Even Einstein said that most of his innovation was actually just good guessing. A talent is something that some people are born with while others have to work at it.

*** One of the ways of developing your intuition is to use it:
just follow your hunches and see if it gets you the desired result.***********************
By following through on your everyday hunches, you are actually taking test drives, virtually honing in on your listening skills. These skills will serve you well. Everyone is apparently somewhat psychic, but many people just have flabby psychic muscles. Learning to listen to your inner dialog tones and strengthens this muscle. The more you use your intuition the better you get at it. When we choose to ignore our gut instincts, we are only hurting ourselves.***

The ability to think "outside the box" was recognized by Einstein and others long ago. It is so basic to engineering that the process of non-linear thought has been taught by the better schools in the US for a long time. This is one reason that the US has been such a leader in advanced engineering education compared to the rest of the world.

Once business was partially taken over by graduates from engineering schools, the old linear thought patterns, which restricted business for so many years, were rejected and "out of the box thinking" which was not new in any shape or form, were embraced into the business world.

A classic example of linear thought would be GM. Each year was a slight change from the year before allowing the company to be stodgy and predictable allowing forward thinking companies like Honda and Toyota to gradually take increasing amounts of market share.

The most classic example of non-linear thinking would be NASA (on one level anyway) where every program starts with a clean slate and the idea of reusing technology to make incremental improvements is generally ignored. This method forces the engineers to use their intuition at it's maximum and be creative without much consideration for cost.

Another classic example of linear thought would be Chinese engineering students from back in the seventies and eighties. They were picked to be the best of the best from their country before being sent to the US for higher education and one of the selection criteria was a strong tendency to do exactly what they were told and to think what they were told to think (linear thought). Although top students in every way in China, as soon as they were placed in an environment where they had to produce original thought (non linear intuitive thinking) they failed. I remember several who simply sat down a cried and said they "just don't understand". The Chinese understand quite well now.

Built into the show "Star Trek" was the genius non linear thinker Captain Kirk vs the genius linear thinker Mr. Spock. Kirk won almost every situation including chess matches which are mostly linear in stratagy.

Non linear thinking -- good point, Joe.
As I understand, that would be relying primarily upon one's imagination, creativity and intuition... (no wonder the Chinese failed at that!) Certainly, being squeesed with the tight deadlines and even tighter budgets is contre-active to the creative process... Naturally, a trully creative person is incapable of withstanding the seduction of pursuing one's dreams without much consideration for cost... That's what attracts the best of minds to the US!

(BTW, what constitutes the US scientific advancement is just that: SEDUCING THE BEST MINDS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD!!!) And that hardly qualifies as an "American" (as opposed to Chinese).

On the other hand, any means are good enough as long as they justify the ends...

The world is no longer burdened with the idea of patriotizm! The pursiute of happiness is the underlying nature of human beings, and the US is at the forefront of feeding the actualization of all the bright minds from all over the world!!!

The power of the Mighty Buck is, actually, the best and most effective weapon!
(the only disadvantage of this approach is fostering a "Prostitute Complex" in people...)

Sorry, Joe, I don't mean to object... I would be the first sell my abilities to the highest bidder!

(Ladies and gentlemen, place your bids: the bidding begins at a bargain level -- hundred grand!!! )