Topic: Are we pushing too hard....
Thomas3474
Joined Mon 11/10/08 Posts: 1387 |
QUOTE: your actually right i am against pretend peace it causes too much death! but i guess if you can get a binding contract i would be game problem is i will always have my war and you will never have your peace so until then i choose to kill the opposition before they kill me! Kinda of funny how much peace we got once we dropped the atomic bomb on Japan isn't it?I think the 70 million dead people would agree that dropping the bomb on the first day of the war would have been the best choice thus ending the war and saving millions of people. |
ronny4dating
Joined Wed 11/04/09 Posts: 570 |
damn dude???? i am sorry but at this point your just laughable! I just think your greatly misinformed or uninformed and i really am tired of trying to educate you! how can i have a conversation with someone that really has no knowledge of politics or history and current events. I just cant! i have to explain over and over how you dont make sense and have no argument just like the girl! then you just state the same thing again in a different way! Taliban huh????? lol....read up buddy read up! 
QUOTE: My family is not being threatened by the taliban? I beg to differ brother. My family missed being on the flight out of Newark New Jersey by just a couple months. We were on our way to Hawaii for a change of duty station, and flying a carbon copy flight of the one that went down outside Camp David. Also, the latest "threat" which involved blowing up D.C. with a nuclear bomb about a month ago (?) was close enough to home that I would have felt the effects of it with about an hour or so at most if even that long if it happened. That's just the immediate and personal threats. The fact that they threaten our country, our way of living, our rights, the rights of our women and children, I could continue on forever, but that all effects me also. Also, I DID serve my time, that's why I state that I can speak with authority and first hand knowledge. My first duty station was a combat support hospital and we deployed out to the Balkains as the second unit out there, leaving on Christmas eve 1995. I have seen way too many casualties myself, and worked hand in hand triaging them, and doing whatever else I could as a non-medic, to help them be as comfortable as possible. That is why I WONT sign up again now. it is not for me ANYMORE. As for not offering a bona-fide solution, who bona-fides it? I have offered many an opinion in the past, and even in this thread as to what I fell needs to be done, but they are not popular ideas, as it involves more military, and making young adults choose what hey want to do in the short term after high school, as well as giving everybody an education which will also help with our economy as well as our military. So please do not sit back in your comfy chair, and claim I have no business offering my opinions or beliefs. QUOTE: just a thought when thinking of war and forming an opinion i think its best to veiw yourself as the man/woman making that decision. So if your obama what do you do? come up with a strategy and stand by it, but to merely say im this and that without a bonafide solution is wrong! especially when its not your family being theatend by the taliban! |
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ronny4dating
Joined Wed 11/04/09 Posts: 570 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: your actually right i am against pretend peace it causes too much death! but i guess if you can get a binding contract i would be game problem is i will always have my war and you will never have your peace so until then i choose to kill the opposition before they kill me! Kinda of funny how much peace we got once we dropped the atomic bomb on Japan isn't it?I think the 70 million dead people would agree that dropping the bomb on the first day of the war would have been the best choice thus ending the war and saving millions of people. amen bother the informed unite! |
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ronny4dating
Joined Wed 11/04/09 Posts: 570 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: i really just cant take it! i am a war vet i know first hand its not the killing its the dead charred bodies you remember most! its knowing your friend is dead now and wanting to punch back! obviously everyone is different but this is a real issue and it is very difficult no matter how strong you are! The thing is though that is not the case here in my opinion this guy was an extremist and people ae covering that up and trying to say war stress! it was not war stress! he was a traitor to his nation and should be thought of as such! they should wrap him in a pig and face him face down in his grave toward the west! The problem we are all having though with your belief Ronny, and I understand it is your belief, is that you are basing it off of supposition. You are assuming that you have the facts when in fact you do not. You are hellbent on the idea that this guy can not possibly be anything other than an extremist terrorist. Even though you yourself have stated that it is different for each person and in your case it isn't killing another person it is seeing others get killed or wounded that hurts you the most. I have to make dinner for my boys, but will be back on afterwards. it is not supposition if there is evidence! what are you talking about. i have made a conclusion based on the facts so far! you say you need more fine but it does not change my opionion i have enough to form an opinion. hurts you??? lol im not hurt bro gld i did my part! just very terrorfying no matter how strong you are at least i think so! "it is not supposition if you have evidence" That is my point you do not have "evidence" of anything other than his believing in Allah, and that he shot all those people. There is no "evidence" as of yet to show WHY he did what he did. Thus your opinion is based off of other opinions and frankly in most cases biasses, even if they turn out to be right in the end, they are still not fact at this point! please! quit coming in here and claiming you are basing off of fact when you are NOT. okay read the reports get a dictionary and look up the definition of eveidence then get back to me.....jeez! |
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Thomas3474
Joined Mon 11/10/08 Posts: 1387 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: i really just cant take it! i am a war vet i know first hand its not the killing its the dead charred bodies you remember most! its knowing your friend is dead now and wanting to punch back! obviously everyone is different but this is a real issue and it is very difficult no matter how strong you are! The thing is though that is not the case here in my opinion this guy was an extremist and people ae covering that up and trying to say war stress! it was not war stress! he was a traitor to his nation and should be thought of as such! they should wrap him in a pig and face him face down in his grave toward the west! The problem we are all having though with your belief Ronny, and I understand it is your belief, is that you are basing it off of supposition. You are assuming that you have the facts when in fact you do not. You are hellbent on the idea that this guy can not possibly be anything other than an extremist terrorist. Even though you yourself have stated that it is different for each person and in your case it isn't killing another person it is seeing others get killed or wounded that hurts you the most. I have to make dinner for my boys, but will be back on afterwards. it is not supposition if there is evidence! what are you talking about. i have made a conclusion based on the facts so far! you say you need more fine but it does not change my opionion i have enough to form an opinion. hurts you??? lol im not hurt bro gld i did my part! just very terrorfying no matter how strong you are at least i think so! "it is not supposition if you have evidence" That is my point you do not have "evidence" of anything other than his believing in Allah, and that he shot all those people. There is no "evidence" as of yet to show WHY he did what he did. Thus your opinion is based off of other opinions and frankly in most cases biasses, even if they turn out to be right in the end, they are still not fact at this point! please! quit coming in here and claiming you are basing off of fact when you are NOT. Every play connect the dot's? Racical Islam- Texas shooter Shouts God is great before suicide bombings.- Check Praises death of military members or US Americans.- Check Mentally unstable and shows signs of suicide.- Gives away personal belongings before suicide.- Check Deeply against the Iraq and Afganistan war.- Check Strong religious beliefs towards Islam including Radical Islam and death and destruction.- Check
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ronny4dating
Joined Wed 11/04/09 Posts: 570 |
QUOTE: Terrorism Criminal Proceedings in 2009 Updated: October 22, 2009 http://www.adl.org/main_Terrorism/american_muslim_extremists_2009.htm An alarming number of American Muslim extremists have been arrested on various terror-related charges, ranging from bomb plots to providing material support to terrorists, since the September 11 terrorist attacks. In 2009 alone, 15 American Muslim extremists and three U.S. permanent residents have been arrested for their involvement in terrorism cases, while 13 Americans have been convicted on terror-related charges. The following is a list of American Muslim extremists that have been charged, convicted or sentenced on terrorism charges in 2009. October 21, 2009 - A Massachusetts man with dual American and Egyptian citizenship is arrested for allegedly plotting to attack a U.S. shopping mall and American soldiers in Iraq. October 21, 2009 - Two U.S. citizens and one permanent resident are sentenced in an Ohio federal court for conspiring to recruit and train terrorists to attack American troops overseas. September 29, 2009 - A New York man who attempted to funnel thousands of dollars to a terrorist training camp in Afghanistan has pleaded guilty to terrorism financing. September 24, 2009 - A U.S. permanent resident with alleged links to Al Qaeda is indicted for an alleged plot to detonate explosives in the U.S. A week earlier, a U.S. citizen and another permanent resident were charged with lying to federal authorities in relation to the case. September 24, 2009 - A Brooklyn resident is indicted in New York for attempting to join a foreign terrorist group and fight American forces in Afghanistan, Iraq and the Balkans. September 23, 2009 - An Illinois resident who attempted to bomb the federal courthouse in Springfield is charged with attempted murder of a federal officer or employee and attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction against property owned by the United States. August 12, 2009 - A Somali-American from Minnesota pleads guilty to training with an Al Qaeda-linked terrorist group in Somalia. August 12, 2009 - An American citizen who shot casing videos of U.S. landmarks for potential terrorist attacks in the Washington, D.C. area is convicted in Georgia for conspiring to support terrorists. August 7, 2009 - A Houston man who conspired to join the Taliban and fight against U.S. forces is sentenced to 54 months in prison. July 27, 2009 - Six U.S. citizens and a permanent resident are arrested for engaging in weapons training and conspiring to carry out "violent jihad" overseas. An eighth suspect, also an American citizen, is still at large. July 27, 2009 - A Virginia man convicted of conspiring to assassinate President George W. Bush and providing material support to Al Qaeda is sentenced to life in prison. July 13, 2009 - Two Somali-Americans from Brooklyn Park, MN, and Seattle, WA, are charged with providing material support to terrorists and conspiracy to kill, kidnap, maim and injure. June 10, 2009 - A former Georgia Tech student who shot videos of U.S. landmarks in the Washington, D.C. area for potential terrorist attacks is convicted in Atlanta of conspiring to support terrorists. June 2, 2009 - Three American citizens and a Haitian native are indicted for allegedly plotting to attack two synagogues in the Bronx and to shoot down planes at a military base in Newburgh, New York. June 1, 2009 - An American convert to Islam who shot two uniformed American soldiers - one of whom was killed - at a military recruiting center in Little Rock, Arkansas, is charged with 16 counts of committing a terrorist act. May 27, 2009 - Three American citizens are among the five leaders and former fundraisers of the Holy Land Foundation, once considered the largest Muslim charity in the U.S., sentenced to between 15 to 65 years in prison for funneling money to the Hamas terrorist organization. May 12, 2009 - Four U.S. citizens and one Haitian national are convicted for plotting to attack the Sears Tower in Chicago, the FBI headquarters in Miami and other U.S. buildings. April 29-30, 2009 - A U.S. citizen, a U.S. permanent resident and three others from Southern New Jersey and Philadelphia are sentenced between 30 years and life in prison for conspiring to attack the Fort Dix army base in New Jersey. April 3, 2009 - A former U.S. sailor convicted of leaking classified information about a U.S. Naval battle group to alleged terror supporters is sentenced to ten years in prison. March 6, 2009 - The apparent leader of a terror cell that plotted to attack Jewish institutions and U.S. military targets in Los Angeles is sentenced to 16 years in prison. February 26, 2009 - An Ohio man accused of joining Al Qaeda in the early 1990s is sentenced to 20 years in prison for planning terrorist attacks in the U.S. and Europe. January 28, 2009 - A Long Island man pleaded guilty to providing information about New York City transit systems to Al Qaeda for potential terrorist attacks and to firing rockets at an American military base in Afghanistan. January 15, 2009 - Two Chicago cousins are convicted of conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists in connection with their travels abroad in order to murder U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan your a better man then me i wont do their homework for them! |
peladac
Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 4782 |
QUOTE: i really just cant take it! i am a war vet i know first hand its not the killing its the dead charred bodies you remember most! its knowing your friend is dead now and wanting to punch back! obviously everyone is different but this is a real issue and it is very difficult no matter how strong you are! The thing is though that is not the case here in my opinion this guy was an extremist and people ae covering that up and trying to say war stress! it was not war stress! he was a traitor to his nation and should be thought of as such! they should wrap him in a pig and face him face down in his grave toward the west! First off thank you for your service to our Country. Thank you for posting as well and I agree with you 100%!!! Yes he is a traitor, what is the punishment for that? He is a disgrace and should be disgraced. |
daniel48706
Joined Fri 03/16/07 Posts: 8598 |
roflmbo so hard I need 911 to start me breathing again!
Thomas you old fool, lol you have just contradicted yourself bigger than imaginable. quoteIn 2009 alone, 15 American Muslim extremists and three U.S. permanent residents have been arrested for their involvement in terrorism cases The following is a list of American Muslim extremists that have been charged, convicted or sentenced on terrorism charges in 2009. unquote the numbers mentioned equal out to only 18 people, yet when you **** all the people you listed it comes out to a whopping 23! That's five more people than were even arrested by your own statements! Now, I am sure you did not mean to suggest that all of them were arrested, convicted and sentenced in 2009. However, the total number of 23 in an 8 year span is NOT an alarming number, other than being alarming cause any were found to begin with. QUOTE: Terrorism Criminal Proceedings in 2009 Updated: October 22, 2009 http://www.adl.org/main_Terrorism/american_muslim_extremists_2009.htm An alarming number of American Muslim extremists have been arrested on various terror-related charges, ranging from bomb plots to providing material support to terrorists, since the September 11 terrorist attacks. In 2009 alone, 15 American Muslim extremists and three U.S. permanent residents have been arrested for their involvement in terrorism cases, while 13 Americans have been convicted on terror-related charges. The following is a list of American Muslim extremists that have been charged, convicted or sentenced on terrorism charges in 2009. October 21, 2009 - A Massachusetts man with dual American and Egyptian citizenship is arrested for allegedly plotting to attack a U.S. shopping mall and American soldiers in Iraq. October 21, 2009 - Two U.S. citizens and one permanent resident are sentenced in an Ohio federal court for conspiring to recruit and train terrorists to attack American troops overseas. September 29, 2009 - A New York man who attempted to funnel thousands of dollars to a terrorist training camp in Afghanistan has pleaded guilty to terrorism financing. September 24, 2009 - A U.S. permanent resident with alleged links to Al Qaeda is indicted for an alleged plot to detonate explosives in the U.S. A week earlier, a U.S. citizen and another permanent resident were charged with lying to federal authorities in relation to the case. September 24, 2009 - A Brooklyn resident is indicted in New York for attempting to join a foreign terrorist group and fight American forces in Afghanistan, Iraq and the Balkans. September 23, 2009 - An Illinois resident who attempted to bomb the federal courthouse in Springfield is charged with attempted murder of a federal officer or employee and attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction against property owned by the United States. August 12, 2009 - A Somali-American from Minnesota pleads guilty to training with an Al Qaeda-linked terrorist group in Somalia. August 12, 2009 - An American citizen who shot casing videos of U.S. landmarks for potential terrorist attacks in the Washington, D.C. area is convicted in Georgia for conspiring to support terrorists. August 7, 2009 - A Houston man who conspired to join the Taliban and fight against U.S. forces is sentenced to 54 months in prison. July 27, 2009 - Six U.S. citizens and a permanent resident are arrested for engaging in weapons training and conspiring to carry out "violent jihad" overseas. An eighth suspect, also an American citizen, is still at large. July 27, 2009 - A Virginia man convicted of conspiring to assassinate President George W. Bush and providing material support to Al Qaeda is sentenced to life in prison. July 13, 2009 - Two Somali-Americans from Brooklyn Park, MN, and Seattle, WA, are charged with providing material support to terrorists and conspiracy to kill, kidnap, maim and injure. June 10, 2009 - A former Georgia Tech student who shot videos of U.S. landmarks in the Washington, D.C. area for potential terrorist attacks is convicted in Atlanta of conspiring to support terrorists. June 2, 2009 - Three American citizens and a Haitian native are indicted for allegedly plotting to attack two synagogues in the Bronx and to shoot down planes at a military base in Newburgh, New York. June 1, 2009 - An American convert to Islam who shot two uniformed American soldiers - one of whom was killed - at a military recruiting center in Little Rock, Arkansas, is charged with 16 counts of committing a terrorist act. May 27, 2009 - Three American citizens are among the five leaders and former fundraisers of the Holy Land Foundation, once considered the largest Muslim charity in the U.S., sentenced to between 15 to 65 years in prison for funneling money to the Hamas terrorist organization. May 12, 2009 - Four U.S. citizens and one Haitian national are convicted for plotting to attack the Sears Tower in Chicago, the FBI headquarters in Miami and other U.S. buildings. April 29-30, 2009 - A U.S. citizen, a U.S. permanent resident and three others from Southern New Jersey and Philadelphia are sentenced between 30 years and life in prison for conspiring to attack the Fort Dix army base in New Jersey. April 3, 2009 - A former U.S. sailor convicted of leaking classified information about a U.S. Naval battle group to alleged terror supporters is sentenced to ten years in prison. March 6, 2009 - The apparent leader of a terror cell that plotted to attack Jewish institutions and U.S. military targets in Los Angeles is sentenced to 16 years in prison. February 26, 2009 - An Ohio man accused of joining Al Qaeda in the early 1990s is sentenced to 20 years in prison for planning terrorist attacks in the U.S. and Europe. January 28, 2009 - A Long Island man pleaded guilty to providing information about New York City transit systems to Al Qaeda for potential terrorist attacks and to firing rockets at an American military base in Afghanistan. January 15, 2009 - Two Chicago cousins are convicted of conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists in connection with their travels abroad in order to murder U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan |
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peladac
Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 4782 |
you like calling people fools?? can you be a little nicer. sheesh
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ronny4dating
Joined Wed 11/04/09 Posts: 570 |
QUOTE: roflmbo so hard I need 911 to start me breathing again! Thomas you old fool, lol you have just contradicted yourself bigger than imaginable. quoteIn 2009 alone, 15 American Muslim extremists and three U.S. permanent residents have been arrested for their involvement in terrorism cases The following is a list of American Muslim extremists that have been charged, convicted or sentenced on terrorism charges in 2009. unquote the numbers mentioned equal out to only 18 people, yet when you **** all the people you listed it comes out to a whopping 23! That's five more people than were even arrested by your own statements! Now, I am sure you did not mean to suggest that all of them were arrested, convicted and sentenced in 2009. However, the total number of 23 in an 8 year span is NOT an alarming number, other than being alarming cause any were found to begin with. QUOTE: Terrorism Criminal Proceedings in 2009 Updated: October 22, 2009 http://www.adl.org/main_Terrorism/american_muslim_extremists_2009.htm An alarming number of American Muslim extremists have been arrested on various terror-related charges, ranging from bomb plots to providing material support to terrorists, since the September 11 terrorist attacks. In 2009 alone, 15 American Muslim extremists and three U.S. permanent residents have been arrested for their involvement in terrorism cases, while 13 Americans have been convicted on terror-related charges. The following is a list of American Muslim extremists that have been charged, convicted or sentenced on terrorism charges in 2009. October 21, 2009 - A Massachusetts man with dual American and Egyptian citizenship is arrested for allegedly plotting to attack a U.S. shopping mall and American soldiers in Iraq. October 21, 2009 - Two U.S. citizens and one permanent resident are sentenced in an Ohio federal court for conspiring to recruit and train terrorists to attack American troops overseas. September 29, 2009 - A New York man who attempted to funnel thousands of dollars to a terrorist training camp in Afghanistan has pleaded guilty to terrorism financing. September 24, 2009 - A U.S. permanent resident with alleged links to Al Qaeda is indicted for an alleged plot to detonate explosives in the U.S. A week earlier, a U.S. citizen and another permanent resident were charged with lying to federal authorities in relation to the case. September 24, 2009 - A Brooklyn resident is indicted in New York for attempting to join a foreign terrorist group and fight American forces in Afghanistan, Iraq and the Balkans. September 23, 2009 - An Illinois resident who attempted to bomb the federal courthouse in Springfield is charged with attempted murder of a federal officer or employee and attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction against property owned by the United States. August 12, 2009 - A Somali-American from Minnesota pleads guilty to training with an Al Qaeda-linked terrorist group in Somalia. August 12, 2009 - An American citizen who shot casing videos of U.S. landmarks for potential terrorist attacks in the Washington, D.C. area is convicted in Georgia for conspiring to support terrorists. August 7, 2009 - A Houston man who conspired to join the Taliban and fight against U.S. forces is sentenced to 54 months in prison. July 27, 2009 - Six U.S. citizens and a permanent resident are arrested for engaging in weapons training and conspiring to carry out "violent jihad" overseas. An eighth suspect, also an American citizen, is still at large. July 27, 2009 - A Virginia man convicted of conspiring to assassinate President George W. Bush and providing material support to Al Qaeda is sentenced to life in prison. July 13, 2009 - Two Somali-Americans from Brooklyn Park, MN, and Seattle, WA, are charged with providing material support to terrorists and conspiracy to kill, kidnap, maim and injure. June 10, 2009 - A former Georgia Tech student who shot videos of U.S. landmarks in the Washington, D.C. area for potential terrorist attacks is convicted in Atlanta of conspiring to support terrorists. June 2, 2009 - Three American citizens and a Haitian native are indicted for allegedly plotting to attack two synagogues in the Bronx and to shoot down planes at a military base in Newburgh, New York. June 1, 2009 - An American convert to Islam who shot two uniformed American soldiers - one of whom was killed - at a military recruiting center in Little Rock, Arkansas, is charged with 16 counts of committing a terrorist act. May 27, 2009 - Three American citizens are among the five leaders and former fundraisers of the Holy Land Foundation, once considered the largest Muslim charity in the U.S., sentenced to between 15 to 65 years in prison for funneling money to the Hamas terrorist organization. May 12, 2009 - Four U.S. citizens and one Haitian national are convicted for plotting to attack the Sears Tower in Chicago, the FBI headquarters in Miami and other U.S. buildings. April 29-30, 2009 - A U.S. citizen, a U.S. permanent resident and three others from Southern New Jersey and Philadelphia are sentenced between 30 years and life in prison for conspiring to attack the Fort Dix army base in New Jersey. April 3, 2009 - A former U.S. sailor convicted of leaking classified information about a U.S. Naval battle group to alleged terror supporters is sentenced to ten years in prison. March 6, 2009 - The apparent leader of a terror cell that plotted to attack Jewish institutions and U.S. military targets in Los Angeles is sentenced to 16 years in prison. February 26, 2009 - An Ohio man accused of joining Al Qaeda in the early 1990s is sentenced to 20 years in prison for planning terrorist attacks in the U.S. and Europe. January 28, 2009 - A Long Island man pleaded guilty to providing information about New York City transit systems to Al Qaeda for potential terrorist attacks and to firing rockets at an American military base in Afghanistan. January 15, 2009 - Two Chicago cousins are convicted of conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists in connection with their travels abroad in order to murder U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan jeez this guy again i beleive its a one year span! lol.... |
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Thomas3474
Joined Mon 11/10/08 Posts: 1387 |
QUOTE: roflmbo so hard I need 911 to start me breathing again! Thomas you old fool, lol you have just contradicted yourself bigger than imaginable. quoteIn 2009 alone, 15 American Muslim extremists and three U.S. permanent residents have been arrested for their involvement in terrorism cases The following is a list of American Muslim extremists that have been charged, convicted or sentenced on terrorism charges in 2009. unquote the numbers mentioned equal out to only 18 people, yet when you **** all the people you listed it comes out to a whopping 23! That's five more people than were even arrested by your own statements! Now, I am sure you did not mean to suggest that all of them were arrested, convicted and sentenced in 2009. However, the total number of 23 in an 8 year span is NOT an alarming number, other than being alarming cause any were found to begin with. QUOTE: Terrorism Criminal Proceedings in 2009 Updated: October 22, 2009 http://www.adl.org/main_Terrorism/american_muslim_extremists_2009.htm An alarming number of American Muslim extremists have been arrested on various terror-related charges, ranging from bomb plots to providing material support to terrorists, since the September 11 terrorist attacks. In 2009 alone, 15 American Muslim extremists and three U.S. permanent residents have been arrested for their involvement in terrorism cases, while 13 Americans have been convicted on terror-related charges. The following is a list of American Muslim extremists that have been charged, convicted or sentenced on terrorism charges in 2009. October 21, 2009 - A Massachusetts man with dual American and Egyptian citizenship is arrested for allegedly plotting to attack a U.S. shopping mall and American soldiers in Iraq. October 21, 2009 - Two U.S. citizens and one permanent resident are sentenced in an Ohio federal court for conspiring to recruit and train terrorists to attack American troops overseas. September 29, 2009 - A New York man who attempted to funnel thousands of dollars to a terrorist training camp in Afghanistan has pleaded guilty to terrorism financing. September 24, 2009 - A U.S. permanent resident with alleged links to Al Qaeda is indicted for an alleged plot to detonate explosives in the U.S. A week earlier, a U.S. citizen and another permanent resident were charged with lying to federal authorities in relation to the case. September 24, 2009 - A Brooklyn resident is indicted in New York for attempting to join a foreign terrorist group and fight American forces in Afghanistan, Iraq and the Balkans. September 23, 2009 - An Illinois resident who attempted to bomb the federal courthouse in Springfield is charged with attempted murder of a federal officer or employee and attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction against property owned by the United States. August 12, 2009 - A Somali-American from Minnesota pleads guilty to training with an Al Qaeda-linked terrorist group in Somalia. August 12, 2009 - An American citizen who shot casing videos of U.S. landmarks for potential terrorist attacks in the Washington, D.C. area is convicted in Georgia for conspiring to support terrorists. August 7, 2009 - A Houston man who conspired to join the Taliban and fight against U.S. forces is sentenced to 54 months in prison. July 27, 2009 - Six U.S. citizens and a permanent resident are arrested for engaging in weapons training and conspiring to carry out "violent jihad" overseas. An eighth suspect, also an American citizen, is still at large. July 27, 2009 - A Virginia man convicted of conspiring to assassinate President George W. Bush and providing material support to Al Qaeda is sentenced to life in prison. July 13, 2009 - Two Somali-Americans from Brooklyn Park, MN, and Seattle, WA, are charged with providing material support to terrorists and conspiracy to kill, kidnap, maim and injure. June 10, 2009 - A former Georgia Tech student who shot videos of U.S. landmarks in the Washington, D.C. area for potential terrorist attacks is convicted in Atlanta of conspiring to support terrorists. June 2, 2009 - Three American citizens and a Haitian native are indicted for allegedly plotting to attack two synagogues in the Bronx and to shoot down planes at a military base in Newburgh, New York. June 1, 2009 - An American convert to Islam who shot two uniformed American soldiers - one of whom was killed - at a military recruiting center in Little Rock, Arkansas, is charged with 16 counts of committing a terrorist act. May 27, 2009 - Three American citizens are among the five leaders and former fundraisers of the Holy Land Foundation, once considered the largest Muslim charity in the U.S., sentenced to between 15 to 65 years in prison for funneling money to the Hamas terrorist organization. May 12, 2009 - Four U.S. citizens and one Haitian national are convicted for plotting to attack the Sears Tower in Chicago, the FBI headquarters in Miami and other U.S. buildings. April 29-30, 2009 - A U.S. citizen, a U.S. permanent resident and three others from Southern New Jersey and Philadelphia are sentenced between 30 years and life in prison for conspiring to attack the Fort Dix army base in New Jersey. April 3, 2009 - A former U.S. sailor convicted of leaking classified information about a U.S. Naval battle group to alleged terror supporters is sentenced to ten years in prison. March 6, 2009 - The apparent leader of a terror cell that plotted to attack Jewish institutions and U.S. military targets in Los Angeles is sentenced to 16 years in prison. February 26, 2009 - An Ohio man accused of joining Al Qaeda in the early 1990s is sentenced to 20 years in prison for planning terrorist attacks in the U.S. and Europe. January 28, 2009 - A Long Island man pleaded guilty to providing information about New York City transit systems to Al Qaeda for potential terrorist attacks and to firing rockets at an American military base in Afghanistan. January 15, 2009 - Two Chicago cousins are convicted of conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists in connection with their travels abroad in order to murder U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan Feel free to post facts on your information like I did.Also if you would have put on your glasses you would see this is for the 2009 year not for 8 years. |
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ronny4dating
Joined Wed 11/04/09 Posts: 570 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: i really just cant take it! i am a war vet i know first hand its not the killing its the dead charred bodies you remember most! its knowing your friend is dead now and wanting to punch back! obviously everyone is different but this is a real issue and it is very difficult no matter how strong you are! The thing is though that is not the case here in my opinion this guy was an extremist and people ae covering that up and trying to say war stress! it was not war stress! he was a traitor to his nation and should be thought of as such! they should wrap him in a pig and face him face down in his grave toward the west! First off thank you for your service to our Country. Thank you for posting as well and I agree with you 100%!!! Yes he is a traitor, what is the punishment for that? He is a disgrace and should be disgraced. thank you for be appreciaive! |
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Thomas3474
Joined Mon 11/10/08 Posts: 1387 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: roflmbo so hard I need 911 to start me breathing again! Thomas you old fool, lol you have just contradicted yourself bigger than imaginable. quoteIn 2009 alone, 15 American Muslim extremists and three U.S. permanent residents have been arrested for their involvement in terrorism cases The following is a list of American Muslim extremists that have been charged, convicted or sentenced on terrorism charges in 2009. unquote the numbers mentioned equal out to only 18 people, yet when you **** all the people you listed it comes out to a whopping 23! That's five more people than were even arrested by your own statements! Now, I am sure you did not mean to suggest that all of them were arrested, convicted and sentenced in 2009. However, the total number of 23 in an 8 year span is NOT an alarming number, other than being alarming cause any were found to begin with. QUOTE: Terrorism Criminal Proceedings in 2009 Updated: October 22, 2009 http://www.adl.org/main_Terrorism/american_muslim_extremists_2009.htm An alarming number of American Muslim extremists have been arrested on various terror-related charges, ranging from bomb plots to providing material support to terrorists, since the September 11 terrorist attacks. In 2009 alone, 15 American Muslim extremists and three U.S. permanent residents have been arrested for their involvement in terrorism cases, while 13 Americans have been convicted on terror-related charges. The following is a list of American Muslim extremists that have been charged, convicted or sentenced on terrorism charges in 2009. October 21, 2009 - A Massachusetts man with dual American and Egyptian citizenship is arrested for allegedly plotting to attack a U.S. shopping mall and American soldiers in Iraq. October 21, 2009 - Two U.S. citizens and one permanent resident are sentenced in an Ohio federal court for conspiring to recruit and train terrorists to attack American troops overseas. September 29, 2009 - A New York man who attempted to funnel thousands of dollars to a terrorist training camp in Afghanistan has pleaded guilty to terrorism financing. September 24, 2009 - A U.S. permanent resident with alleged links to Al Qaeda is indicted for an alleged plot to detonate explosives in the U.S. A week earlier, a U.S. citizen and another permanent resident were charged with lying to federal authorities in relation to the case. September 24, 2009 - A Brooklyn resident is indicted in New York for attempting to join a foreign terrorist group and fight American forces in Afghanistan, Iraq and the Balkans. September 23, 2009 - An Illinois resident who attempted to bomb the federal courthouse in Springfield is charged with attempted murder of a federal officer or employee and attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction against property owned by the United States. August 12, 2009 - A Somali-American from Minnesota pleads guilty to training with an Al Qaeda-linked terrorist group in Somalia. August 12, 2009 - An American citizen who shot casing videos of U.S. landmarks for potential terrorist attacks in the Washington, D.C. area is convicted in Georgia for conspiring to support terrorists. August 7, 2009 - A Houston man who conspired to join the Taliban and fight against U.S. forces is sentenced to 54 months in prison. July 27, 2009 - Six U.S. citizens and a permanent resident are arrested for engaging in weapons training and conspiring to carry out "violent jihad" overseas. An eighth suspect, also an American citizen, is still at large. July 27, 2009 - A Virginia man convicted of conspiring to assassinate President George W. Bush and providing material support to Al Qaeda is sentenced to life in prison. July 13, 2009 - Two Somali-Americans from Brooklyn Park, MN, and Seattle, WA, are charged with providing material support to terrorists and conspiracy to kill, kidnap, maim and injure. June 10, 2009 - A former Georgia Tech student who shot videos of U.S. landmarks in the Washington, D.C. area for potential terrorist attacks is convicted in Atlanta of conspiring to support terrorists. June 2, 2009 - Three American citizens and a Haitian native are indicted for allegedly plotting to attack two synagogues in the Bronx and to shoot down planes at a military base in Newburgh, New York. June 1, 2009 - An American convert to Islam who shot two uniformed American soldiers - one of whom was killed - at a military recruiting center in Little Rock, Arkansas, is charged with 16 counts of committing a terrorist act. May 27, 2009 - Three American citizens are among the five leaders and former fundraisers of the Holy Land Foundation, once considered the largest Muslim charity in the U.S., sentenced to between 15 to 65 years in prison for funneling money to the Hamas terrorist organization. May 12, 2009 - Four U.S. citizens and one Haitian national are convicted for plotting to attack the Sears Tower in Chicago, the FBI headquarters in Miami and other U.S. buildings. April 29-30, 2009 - A U.S. citizen, a U.S. permanent resident and three others from Southern New Jersey and Philadelphia are sentenced between 30 years and life in prison for conspiring to attack the Fort Dix army base in New Jersey. April 3, 2009 - A former U.S. sailor convicted of leaking classified information about a U.S. Naval battle group to alleged terror supporters is sentenced to ten years in prison. March 6, 2009 - The apparent leader of a terror cell that plotted to attack Jewish institutions and U.S. military targets in Los Angeles is sentenced to 16 years in prison. February 26, 2009 - An Ohio man accused of joining Al Qaeda in the early 1990s is sentenced to 20 years in prison for planning terrorist attacks in the U.S. and Europe. January 28, 2009 - A Long Island man pleaded guilty to providing information about New York City transit systems to Al Qaeda for potential terrorist attacks and to firing rockets at an American military base in Afghanistan. January 15, 2009 - Two Chicago cousins are convicted of conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists in connection with their travels abroad in order to murder U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan jeez this guy again i beleive its a one year span! lol.... He is wearing a clown nose so....I mean how seriously are you going to take a guy wearing a clown nose. 
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msharmony
Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 1626 |
One mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter. We could post numbers about domestic terrorists and recruiting groups. The bottom line is violence for the sake of someones beliefs is not a new thing or a muslim thing and it is an extremist thing. We should work towards making it a united fight against extremism instead of using the divisive langage of religion or race which only KEEPS people from uniting.
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Ladylid2012
Joined Sun 07/05/09 Posts: 16258 |
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damn dude???? i am sorry but at this point your just laughable! I just think your greatly misinformed or uninformed and i really am tired of trying to educate you! how can i have a conversation with someone that really has no knowledge of politics or history and current events. I just cant! i have to explain over and over how you dont make sense and have no argument just like the girl! then you just state the same thing again in a different way! Taliban huh????? lol....read up buddy read up!
QUOTE: QUOTE: EXCUSE ME...I am not a girl..I am a 49 year old woman and leave me out of your discussions please. You make as much sense to me as I make to you..no need to slam me when I have left.... |
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Thomas3474
Joined Mon 11/10/08 Posts: 1387 |
QUOTE: One mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter. We could post numbers about domestic terrorists and recruiting groups. The bottom line is violence for the sake of someones beliefs is not a new thing or a muslim thing and it is an extremist thing. We should work towards making it a united fight against extremism instead of using the divisive langage of religion or race which only KEEPS people from uniting. It's a no brainer that the majority of terrorism commited today is linked to Islam so unless you are going to re-write their Koran I don't know what to tell you. |
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ronny4dating
Joined Wed 11/04/09 Posts: 570 |
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damn dude???? i am sorry but at this point your just laughable! I just think your greatly misinformed or uninformed and i really am tired of trying to educate you! how can i have a conversation with someone that really has no knowledge of politics or history and current events. I just cant! i have to explain over and over how you dont make sense and have no argument just like the girl! then you just state the same thing again in a different way! Taliban huh????? lol....read up buddy read up!
QUOTE: QUOTE: EXCUSE ME...I am not a girl..I am a 49 year old woman and leave me out of your discussions please. You make as much sense to me as I make to you..no need to slam me when I have left.... actually i was refering to the other WOMAN and sorry for calling you a girl! but hey you got a chip there! |
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Ladylid2012
Joined Sun 07/05/09 Posts: 16258 |
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damn dude???? i am sorry but at this point your just laughable! I just think your greatly misinformed or uninformed and i really am tired of trying to educate you! how can i have a conversation with someone that really has no knowledge of politics or history and current events. I just cant! i have to explain over and over how you dont make sense and have no argument just like the girl! then you just state the same thing again in a different way! Taliban huh????? lol....read up buddy read up!
QUOTE: QUOTE: EXCUSE ME...I am not a girl..I am a 49 year old woman and leave me out of your discussions please. You make as much sense to me as I make to you..no need to slam me when I have left.... actually i was refering to the other WOMAN and sorry for calling you a girl! but hey you got a chip there! you got a bit of a "know it all" chip going on also...just what we need on here..more know it all's
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yellowrose10
Joined Tue 12/11/07 Posts: 27649 |
I am locking this topic up. I have posted 2 warnings in here to keep the debate/discussion civil. I have cleaned up this thread before.
1) Do not attack/slam/insult others. You can discuss the message or topic, but not the messenger - NO EXCEPTIONS. If you are attacked by another user, and you reciprocate, YOU will also be subject to the same consequences. Defending yourself, defending a friend, etc. are NOT excuses. Violations of this rule are taken very seriously and may result in being banned without warning! Please follow up on the rules of the forums. Kim Site Moderator |