In my search for information I ran across an atheist site that offers recovery from religion for those who need help shaking the monkey of religion off their back.

It makes sense that this could be helpful for many people as religion has been allowed to run rampant and has been deceptively taught as the only answer to morality, problem solving, recovery, grieving, etc... And in truth it only makes a person sicker in the end. Makes their lives more empty.

I am going to check into it and see what kind of good stuff they have.

hehe, she said "shaking the monkey ".

wow....
i was raised super-religious, and it never resonated within me.
finding that religion did not make any true sense to me,,,was a gradual, painful thing.

I dont know,, those who seem to oppose religion the most consistently (at least on mingle)seem to be much unhappier and emptier than those who dont,,,although they protest more often about how much happier they supposedly are,,,


just an observation though,,,

if something is making someone sick, whether its belief in government, belief of being in constant danger,,,etc,,

anything that is bringing imbalance and emotional 'sickness' can stand to be looked at closer,,,

Here's what I think it is...


They see someone whom they think is brainwashed. So they want to brainwash them too.

Simple, everyone is trying to control everyone else...

Ahhhhh

I do understand. I am still working through the damage it has done to me.

But life is so much better without it. If I had only known then what I know now.

It is a good thing that it is becoming more mainstream to be religionless especially the major religions which are the great destructors.

Next we need to get it out of the government and schools so it can be practiced at home where the founders wanted it to be.

But life is so much better without it. If I had only known then what I know now.


So well said...... :)

As you probably know, most non-believers are non-believers because of their extensive religious background..

The basic laws of logic, evidence, science, nature and economics reveal religion as a delusion,imaginary...alive only in the minds of "believers". The dogmatic mysticism of religious people does not make sense and actually heavily contradicts itself. Religion was created by hut-dwellers thousands of years ago in order to gain power over their fellow human beings. New religions continue to crop up constantly. We know of 2800 "gods" mankind has worshipped over time. Religious people dismiss 2799 gods,except for their one "true" god.

But, did "marriage" really come from the Bible?

http://atheism.about.com/b/2003/06/27/marriage-a-religious-institution-not-secular.htm


The author never refuted the claim the the term "marriage" comes from the Bible.

To use a religious term in government would be against what you want. You keep saying you want religion out of the government and schools after all.
It would prevent non-religious people from becoming legally "married"...


Is that what you would wish for all atheists?

So well said...... :)

As you probably know, most non-believers are non-believers because of their extensive religious background..

The basic laws of logic, evidence, science, nature and economics reveal religion as a delusion,imaginary...alive only in the minds of "believers". The dogmatic mysticism of religious people does not make sense and actually heavily contradicts itself. Religion was created by hut-dwellers thousands of years ago in order to gain power over their fellow human beings. New religions continue to crop up constantly. We know of 2800 "gods" mankind has worshipped over time. Religious people dismiss 2799 gods,except for their one "true" god.






I find, usually, most non believers have an extensive background of 'abuse' of some sort, and religion becomes the scapegoat that they feel relief ridding themself of,,,


just my observation though

Actually, that "extensive religious background" shows how easily some people are brainwashed.

I've never believed everything I was told, but some do. Even after they claim to no longer believe, they still believe the lies...


Brainwashed...

The good news,
non-believers are the fastest growing "religious" group in USA.

It is amazing, in 2012 in USA, one has to accept a
cosmic Jewish Zombie as his master, so this Zombie can guide him in making political decisions determining the future of our country. And the reason is because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.

At least President Reagan used an Astrologer.... lol

I find, usually, most non believers have an extensive background of 'abuse' of some sort, and religion becomes the scapegoat that they feel relief ridding themself of,,,


just my observation though


Roman Catholic boys come to mind for me,
They would not have been abused if they had not been in religion. :(

msharmony wrote:
I find, usually, most non believers have an extensive background of 'abuse' of some sort, and religion becomes the scapegoat that they feel relief ridding themself of,,,
just my observation though



my reply:
Roman Catholic boys come to mind for me,
They would not have been abused if they had not been in religion. :(

Would then limit the 'free practice thereof'.

How will a soldier pray?

How will a Muslim pray as exorted by Allah when he is in school to attend class but must pray?

What will a Christ trained child think after being told that God is only practiced in the home like a secret shame?

What right gives any one of us the right to remove from another a thing we have...

Freedom to be.

I don`t feel wronged by my upbringing, because my parents taught me about honor, fair-play, self respect, and the golden rule (thanks mom and dad, for the good work ethic teachings, too!). My parents were very old-school but never abusive. I had read the bible as a child and had a lot of time to think about it. More thinking and living just led to the inability to believe. Life is freakin precious! i try to live as if this is the only life i`ll have (because i think it is!)

the thing that makes me sad is that,,,i don`t believe in heaven :(
good thing: no hell, whew

with the removal of religion from schools, etc. perhaps 'worship breaktimes' will be enacted to accomodate prayer rituals.

'freedom to be'
'being' (human actions with his brother man)
'prayer' communication with god

freedom to live (freedom to be) according to one`s belief has never been hampered.

children can be taught in the home about god, love, brotherhood, fairness, etc. when this is carried in the heart and soul, displayed by acts,,,,why must worship be done publicly, when it is truly done in the heart.

rituals are more revered than actions. what a crock
oh, except when actions call for the murdering of believers of another faith, amen