Topic: Lies,Exaggerations, and other distractoins
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msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 33175 |
http://www.romneytheliar.blogspot.com/
http://obamalies.net/list-of-lies GREAT, so now that those judgments about 'lies' are out of the way,,,lets start the posts about where the candidates STAND on the issues and what actions they have taken on the issues,,,, shall we? http://www.issues2000.org/Mitt_Romney.htm http://www.issues2000.org/barack_obama.htm
Edited by msharmony on Sun 05/06/12 11:35 AM
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Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 37595 |
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InvictusV Joined Sun 11/23/08 Posts: 4178 |
QUOTE: http://www.romneytheliar.blogspot.com/ http://obamalies.net/list-of-lies GREAT, so now that those judgments about 'lies' are out of the way,,,lets start the posts about where the candidates STAND on the issues and what actions they have taken on the issues,,,, shall we? http://www.issues2000.org/Mitt_Romney.htm http://www.issues2000.org/barack_obama.htm The number one issue for the last 3 years has been the economy.. You can post where he stands on whatever issue you want, but his record on the economy stands for itself. A-T-R-O-C-I-O-U-S U.S. employers cut back on hiring in April and more people stopped looking for work, troubling signs for President Barack Obama whose re-election prospects could hinge on his handling of the economy. Employers added 115,000 workers to payrolls last month, the Labor Department said on Friday. It was the third straight month in which hiring had slowed, intensifying fears the U.S. recovery is losing momentum. Even a slight drop in the unemployment rate to 8.1 percent had a dark tone because the fall was due entirely to people dropping out of the workforce. "The bottom line is you don't have evidence that this economy has reached escape velocity," said Robert Tipp, an investment strategist at Prudential Fixed Income. Analysts had expected 170,000 new jobs in April, and the shortfall could open the door a bit wider for the Federal Reserve to step up efforts to help the economy. Major U.S. stock indexes tumbled, with the broad S&P index ending down more than 1.5 percent and yields on benchmark U.S. government bonds sliding to lows not seen in months. Still, the report was not all negative. The government revised upward earlier estimates for payroll growth in February and March by a combined 53,000 jobs. http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/04/usa-economy-idUSL1E8G43V120120504
Edited by InvictusV on Sun 05/06/12 05:18 PM
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msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 33175 |
the economic record is not so black and white because of so many interpretations of how to measure a 'recession' and a 'recovery'
there is no way to know if the major DIP in jobs under Bush would have been repeated or gotten worse without the actions that were taken and the economy is also not the only significant issue being dealt with under this (or any other) administration |
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alleoops Joined Sat 08/06/11 Posts: 3460 |
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mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 16395 |
QUOTE: http://www.romneytheliar.blogspot.com/ http://obamalies.net/list-of-lies GREAT, so now that those judgments about 'lies' are out of the way,,,lets start the posts about where the candidates STAND on the issues and what actions they have taken on the issues,,,, shall we? http://www.issues2000.org/Mitt_Romney.htm http://www.issues2000.org/barack_obama.htm i fail to see what it matters on what they stand for, they are both liars and cannot be trusted... |
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msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 33175 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: http://www.romneytheliar.blogspot.com/ http://obamalies.net/list-of-lies GREAT, so now that those judgments about 'lies' are out of the way,,,lets start the posts about where the candidates STAND on the issues and what actions they have taken on the issues,,,, shall we? http://www.issues2000.org/Mitt_Romney.htm http://www.issues2000.org/barack_obama.htm i fail to see what it matters on what they stand for, they are both liars and cannot be trusted... if lying makes one untrustworthy, noone is trustworthy but yet we have people who successfully run businesses, so I guess not being trustworthy alone doesnt mean someone cant be 'trusted' in a specific area,, like their job, or their family, or their friendships,,,etc,,, |
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Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 37595 |
That they are politicians makes them untrustworthy.
Most people are untrustworthy, but not because they occasionally lie. There are certain occupations that utilize lying on a constant and regular basis. That would be lawyers, politicians, CIA agents, Police interrogators, etc. That does not make it okay. Its too bad they can't find a way to be more honest but sometimes a lie is even considered necessary. But as far as trust is concerned.... that depends on what you are trusting a person do to or not do. Do I trust or believe what politicians say? Absolutely not. They might even tell the truth sometimes, but that is not to their credit if they only tell the truth when it benefits them. |
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mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 16395 |
i keep hearing "all politicians lie or everyone lies" is that supposed to make it ok? so we should just back, hold hands and sing kum by yah by the fireside while everyone lies to us? if this is what our voting populace has turned to, then i want no part of it. so when you go vote, your looking for the "one that lies the least"?
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Sojourning_Soul Joined Fri 02/13/09 Posts: 5123 |
QUOTE: i keep hearing "all politicians lie or everyone lies" is that supposed to make it ok? so we should just back, hold hands and sing kum by yah by the fireside while everyone lies to us? if this is what our voting populace has turned to, then i want no part of it. so when you go vote, your looking for the "one that lies the least"? Then everyone would have to vote for Ron Paul for sure!
He's the only one who doesn't hide behind the lies!
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Mon 05/07/12 03:37 PM
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mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 16395 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: i keep hearing "all politicians lie or everyone lies" is that supposed to make it ok? so we should just back, hold hands and sing kum by yah by the fireside while everyone lies to us? if this is what our voting populace has turned to, then i want no part of it. so when you go vote, your looking for the "one that lies the least"? Then everyone would have to vote for Ron Paul for sure!
He's the only one who doesn't hide behind the lies! |
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Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 37595 |
QUOTE: i keep hearing "all politicians lie or everyone lies" is that supposed to make it ok? so we should just back, hold hands and sing kum by yah by the fireside while everyone lies to us? if this is what our voting populace has turned to, then i want no part of it. so when you go vote, your looking for the "one that lies the least"? I don't vote any more. |
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mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 16395 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: i keep hearing "all politicians lie or everyone lies" is that supposed to make it ok? so we should just back, hold hands and sing kum by yah by the fireside while everyone lies to us? if this is what our voting populace has turned to, then i want no part of it. so when you go vote, your looking for the "one that lies the least"? I don't vote any more. i really don't blame you, even tho we all should...i don't either, not in the presidential elections anyway...i always do for local politics, they aren't as corrupt as the bigwigs in Washington... |
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Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 37595 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: i keep hearing "all politicians lie or everyone lies" is that supposed to make it ok? so we should just back, hold hands and sing kum by yah by the fireside while everyone lies to us? if this is what our voting populace has turned to, then i want no part of it. so when you go vote, your looking for the "one that lies the least"? I don't vote any more. i really don't blame you, even tho we all should...i don't either, not in the presidential elections anyway...i always do for local politics, they aren't as corrupt as the bigwigs in Washington... That's what I once thought until a friend who was very involved in grass roots politicians enlightened me. The corruption goes all the way to the bottom. Or from the bottom to the top. Who cares.
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Then everyone would have to vote for Ron Paul for sure!