No they actually follow real evidence. You have yet to put out real evidence. I even called you out on this on another post. Then you said if they investigated they would find evidence. I again pointed out you can't know the outcome of what they would find and then you changed to they "might find evidence". Again, everything can and has been explained, you just fail to recognize it. You don't believe it because you don't understand it. Yes physics has everything to do with it. You wonder why the scientific community hasn't challenged the story in 10 years? You think all these people without scientific knowledge know better than the millions of scientists out there? If there was anything credible to what you say it would have hit the scientific community by now and spread like wildfire. It hasn't.

Give me some good examples of some of their "real" evidence.

No, I don't wonder. Oh but many scientists have. (I don't know about the "community.") There are many scientists who have challenged the story.

There is a multitude of evidence that refutes the official story.

Introduction to the Science of 9/11 (Official account)

Overview of 9/11

Timeline of Major Events Since 9/11

September 11, 2001: Two planes crash into the World Trade Center. Three major buildings (WTC1, WTC2 [the Twin Towers], and WTC7) are completely destroyed, and others are severely damaged.

May, 2002: FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) issues its final report, finding high temperature corrosion and sulfidation of steel in the Towers and WTC7. See Appendix C (Limited Metallurgical Examination) of the FEMA World Trade Center Building Performance Study.

May 30, 2002: Cleanup efforts end (after 261 days, 24 hrs/day). All debris is removed. Despite objections, very little if any of the debris is examined to determine the cause of the building collapses.

October 1, 2002: The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) is commissioned to investigate the "collapses."

Congress charges NIST to:

"Determine why and how WTC1 and WTC2 collapsed following the initial impacts of the aircraft and why and how WTC7 collapsed;"

November 27, 2002: Congress and the President create the 9/11 Commission after 442 days of agitation by 9/11 victims' family members. The Commission is headed by Thomas H. Kean (Chair) and Lee H. Hamilton (Vice Chair). The Executive Director is Philip Zelikow, an indiviual with strong ties to the Bush Administration.

Stated aim of the 9/11 Commission: "to provide the fullest possible account of the events surrounding 9/11"

July 26, 2004: The 9/11 Commission Report (comprising 567 pages) is released. In the report, there is:

one 46–page chapter on the day's events (mostly activities of the First Responders)
a large number of omissions and distortions – and no forensic examination whatsoever.
no mention of the complete destruction of WTC7 (47 stories high).
September, 2005: After an investigation consisting mainly of computer simulations, NIST releases its final report on WTC1 and WTC2.

NIST's Conclusion:

Aircraft and fire damage caused the "collapses," but "…we are unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse."

August 26, 2008: In a public session on NIST's WTC7 preliminary report, a high school physics teacher, David Chandler, challenges NIST's assertion that free fall had not occurred. Chandler shows that for the first 105 feet, WTC7 was in fact in free fall. In its final report, NIST acknowledges this fact, but continues to deny that explosives were used.

November, 2008: NIST releases its final report on WTC7.

NIST's Conclusion:

Thermal expansion of steel from fires caused the "collapse." NIST's study of WTC7 was almost entirely computer simulated.

From the start, many individuals world–wide questioned the official story of 9/11 that was promulgated within 48 hours of the events themselves. Newscasters on 9/11/01 gave their impressions freely, likening the World Trade Center building collapses to known instances where explosives were used to knock a building down.

Within 48 hours the candid observations of newscasters ceased.

(Isn't that interesting.)

Discrepancies in the official story appeared almost immediately. The flight lists released by the airlines involved contained no passengers with Middle Eastern names.

One of the more significant discoveries by independent scientists is that of red-gray chips containing unreacted nano-thermite in the WTC dust.

March, 2009: A team of nine international scientists announces that WTC dust samples contain unexploded nano–thermite. (The by–products of the thermite reaction, iron–rich microspheres, were discovered earlier by several different investigators).

Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust

Scientists Discover Both Residues
And Unignited Fragments
Of Nano-Engineered Thermitic Pyrotechnics
In Debris From the Twin Towers

by
Jim Hoffman

http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/thermite/explosive_residues.html

Better evidence was found by Eric Cartman!

Scientists for 9/11 truth.

http://www.scientistsfor911truth.org/index.html

Gee, your A/E 9/11 guys have disassociated themselves from Dr. Judy saying she was practicing "witchcraft".

From "check the evidence.com

An apparently disgruntled "truther"

I have also read your "about us" page many times to see if I had missed something before signing the petition and I find it ironic that your first bullet under "our organization is devoted to" is "dispelling misinformation with scientific facts and forensic evidence". http://www.ae911truth.org/en/about-us.html From what I have read in Dr. Wood's book she has done just that, but I also see that your organization has taken a strong stance and have decided her work is "disinformation". Because of this, again, please remove me from your petition. I wish us all well as we move forward towards truth and hope that one day we can meet up again as one voice. As someone I look up to says often, "be skeptical, but don't close your mind"...

So? Everyone has a right to their own opinions.

My point is that the government's take on what happened and who did it is disinformation. Lies in fact.

there are alot of people getting paid to hide the truth

about alot of things this is just one of them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_63639&v=DV6MVsmi6z8&feature=iv&src_vid=Cj2qrl6Q2rk


somehow i no longer have sound on just youtube

ha

on the topic of how the debris should have fallen, I believe noone in the forum is particularly 'learned' about the subject

I just keep seeing posts of what other 'experts' have written about it,,,

as far as what I am posting about a building that was intentionally blown, I just dont care to look it up and copy/paste it, but I likewise read it and saw and heard a video of it online,,

my theory is a personal one just formed from having studied how firefighters fight forest fires, I can imagine there are other situations in which seemingly destructive actions are used to CONTAIN a larger source of destruction,,,

you Guys are reaching!

the entire area was a complete disaster.

Debris falling from WTC 1 hit WTC 7 and started the fires..

How could there have been a larger source of destruction than there already was if WTC 7 was left standing?

these theories are mind boggling..

so the latest is now that Alien Reptilians did it?

there can always be 'larger' destruction

ie, if one house burns, larger destruction would be two houses burning

if two blocks are demolished, larger destruction would be three blocks burning,,,

found something about the intentional demolition

Here's another piece of information that contradicts the Official Story - the man who signed a 99-year lease for the WTC plaza, six weeks before 9/11, stated in a PBS documentary that WTC 7 was intentionally demolished:

In the documentary Silverstein makes the following statement;

"I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it." And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

This directly contradicts the official FEMA report that "fire" and "damage from debris from WTC 1 and 2" caused the building to collapse.

This is huge. Here's the relevant sound clip from the PBS documentary "America Rebuilds":

http://VestigialConscience.com/PullIt.mp3

This comes from http://www.prisonplanet.com/011704wtc7.html - yes, I realize Alex Jones is way out there for some people, but this clip is the real deal from the documentary that anyone can order.

Now, to those who buy the Official Story - how do you explain THIS one?


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