Topic: A Young Jew’s Progress
Optomistic69
Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173 |
The first step, which many, including those in the Jewish community,
have begun to do, is to acknowledge that there is a problem and not to gloss over it as a "millennia-old religious conflict." I am not a self-hating Jew. I do not think all Jews are racist and bigoted. I also do not believe that to be Jewish is to be entirely supportive of the State of Israel. The kind of hate that has been directed at me – not because I shot rockets into Israel but simply because I express different views and that I traveled to an unfortunately controversial place – has, in its extreme-ness, caught me off guard. I expected outrage. I did not expect to lose a friend. Morgan Elzey http://mondoweiss.net/2010/03/katrina-to-birthright-to-gaza-a-young-jews-progress.html
Edited by Optomistic69 on Tue 06/19/12 01:21 PM
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msharmony
Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 32517 |
QUOTE: The first step, which many, including those in the Jewish community, have begun to do, is to acknowledge that there is a problem and not to gloss over it as a "millennia-old religious conflict." I am not a self-hating Jew. I do not think all Jews are racist and bigoted. I also do not believe that to be Jewish is to be entirely supportive of the State of Israel. The kind of hate that has been directed at me – not because I shot rockets into Israel but simply because I express different views and that I traveled to an unfortunately controversial place – has, in its extreme-ness, caught me off guard. I expected outrage. I did not expect to lose a friend. Morgan Elzey http://mondoweiss.net/2010/03/katrina-to-birthright-to-gaza-a-young-jews-progress.html hate is rarely productive, not NEVER productive,, but rarely,,, |
Conrad_73
Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 8054 |
yep,don't you just love Philip Weiss?
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msharmony
Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 32517 |
no offense, but I dont even know who Phillip Weiss is,,,,
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Conrad_73
Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 8054 |
QUOTE: no offense, but I dont even know who Phillip Weiss is,,,, Or better,read some of his MONDOWEISS Site! 
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HotRodDeluxe
Joined Sun 05/06/12 Posts: 2495 |
More anti-semitic propaganda.
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s1owhand
Joined Fri 05/18/07 Posts: 29311 |
Yep. More antisemitic propaganda. |
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Optomistic69
Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173 |
" Others asked me if I still could even consider myself a Jew and told me that I was a disgrace to my religion, my "people". Zionism (Jewish nationalism) has reared its ugly head in ways and in people I never thought imaginable. To question Israel is to be anti-Semitic and anti-Jewish. Apparently, to simply be Jewish, regardless of one’s religious tilt, was to be Zionist. I guess I missed the memo.
Morgan Elzey |
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Conrad_73
Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 8054 |
QUOTE: " Others asked me if I still could even consider myself a Jew and told me that I was a disgrace to my religion, my "people". Zionism (Jewish nationalism) has reared its ugly head in ways and in people I never thought imaginable. To question Israel is to be anti-Semitic and anti-Jewish. Apparently, to simply be Jewish, regardless of one’s religious tilt, was to be Zionist. I guess I missed the memo. Morgan Elzey By you quoting Jews who disagree with Israel actually proves Zilch,and definitely NOT the points you and some others are trying to make! |
Jeanniebean
Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 36969 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: " Others asked me if I still could even consider myself a Jew and told me that I was a disgrace to my religion, my "people". Zionism (Jewish nationalism) has reared its ugly head in ways and in people I never thought imaginable. To question Israel is to be anti-Semitic and anti-Jewish. Apparently, to simply be Jewish, regardless of one’s religious tilt, was to be Zionist. I guess I missed the memo. Morgan Elzey By you quoting Jews who disagree with Israel actually proves Zilch,and definitely NOT the points you and some others are trying to make! People can't "disagree with Israel." Israel does not have an opinion. It is not alive or conscious. People, including JEWS can DISAGREE with Rothschilds Zionist agenda. |
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Optomistic69
Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: " Others asked me if I still could even consider myself a Jew and told me that I was a disgrace to my religion, my "people". Zionism (Jewish nationalism) has reared its ugly head in ways and in people I never thought imaginable. To question Israel is to be anti-Semitic and anti-Jewish. Apparently, to simply be Jewish, regardless of one’s religious tilt, was to be Zionist. I guess I missed the memo. Morgan Elzey By you quoting Jews who disagree with Israel actually proves Zilch,and definitely NOT the points you and some others are trying to make! I wonder if Morgan Elzey could be classed as a Self-Hating Zionist seeing as his friends considered him to be a Zionist.
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Jeanniebean
Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 36969 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: " Others asked me if I still could even consider myself a Jew and told me that I was a disgrace to my religion, my "people". Zionism (Jewish nationalism) has reared its ugly head in ways and in people I never thought imaginable. To question Israel is to be anti-Semitic and anti-Jewish. Apparently, to simply be Jewish, regardless of one’s religious tilt, was to be Zionist. I guess I missed the memo. Morgan Elzey By you quoting Jews who disagree with Israel actually proves Zilch,and definitely NOT the points you and some others are trying to make! I wonder if Morgan Elzey could be classed as a Self-Hating Zionist seeing as his friends considered him to be a Zionist.
Zionists should be self hating.
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s1owhand
Joined Fri 05/18/07 Posts: 29311 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: " Others asked me if I still could even consider myself a Jew and told me that I was a disgrace to my religion, my "people". Zionism (Jewish nationalism) has reared its ugly head in ways and in people I never thought imaginable. To question Israel is to be anti-Semitic and anti-Jewish. Apparently, to simply be Jewish, regardless of one’s religious tilt, was to be Zionist. I guess I missed the memo. Morgan Elzey By you quoting Jews who disagree with Israel actually proves Zilch,and definitely NOT the points you and some others are trying to make! I wonder if Morgan Elzey could be classed as a Self-Hating Zionist seeing as his friends considered him to be a Zionist.
Zionists should be self hating.
Anti-Zionism and Anti-Semitism Robert Wistrich1 http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-wistrich-f04.htm Anti-Zionism has become the most dangerous and effective form of anti- Semitism in our time, through its systematic delegitimization, defamation, and demonization of Israel. Although not a priori anti-Semitic, the calls to dismantle the Jewish state, whether they come from Muslims, the Left, or the radical Right, increasingly rely on an anti-Semitic stereotypization of classic themes, such as the manipulative "Jewish lobby," the Jewish/Zionist "world conspiracy," and Jewish/Israeli "warmongers." One major driving force of this anti-Zionism/anti-Semitism is the transformation of the Palestinian cause into a "holy war"; another source is anti-Americanism linked with fundamentalist Islamism. In the current context, classic conspiracy theories, such as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, are enjoying a spectacular revival. The common denominator of the new anti-Zionism has been the systematic effort to criminalize Israeli and Jewish behavior, so as to place it beyond the pale of civilized and acceptable conduct. |
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Conrad_73
Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 8054 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: " Others asked me if I still could even consider myself a Jew and told me that I was a disgrace to my religion, my "people". Zionism (Jewish nationalism) has reared its ugly head in ways and in people I never thought imaginable. To question Israel is to be anti-Semitic and anti-Jewish. Apparently, to simply be Jewish, regardless of one’s religious tilt, was to be Zionist. I guess I missed the memo. Morgan Elzey By you quoting Jews who disagree with Israel actually proves Zilch,and definitely NOT the points you and some others are trying to make! And his Website proves it! The Slime posted in the Comments on the Site,and being left there is further proof of what he is! SELFHATING! And all the Obfuscations of the Israel/Jewhaters make any difference! |
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Conrad_73
Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 8054 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: " Others asked me if I still could even consider myself a Jew and told me that I was a disgrace to my religion, my "people". Zionism (Jewish nationalism) has reared its ugly head in ways and in people I never thought imaginable. To question Israel is to be anti-Semitic and anti-Jewish. Apparently, to simply be Jewish, regardless of one’s religious tilt, was to be Zionist. I guess I missed the memo. Morgan Elzey By you quoting Jews who disagree with Israel actually proves Zilch,and definitely NOT the points you and some others are trying to make! And his Website proves it! The Slime posted in the Comments on the Site,and being left there is further proof of what he is! SELFHATING! And none of the Obfuscations of the Israel/Jewhaters makes any difference!
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 06/23/12 04:40 AM
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Conrad_73
Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 8054 |
QUOTE: Anti-Zionism and Anti-Semitism Robert Wistrich1 http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-wistrich-f04.htm Anti-Zionism has become the most dangerous and effective form of anti- Semitism in our time, through its systematic delegitimization, defamation, and demonization of Israel. Although not a priori anti-Semitic, the calls to dismantle the Jewish state, whether they come from Muslims, the Left, or the radical Right, increasingly rely on an anti-Semitic stereotypization of classic themes, such as the manipulative "Jewish lobby," the Jewish/Zionist "world conspiracy," and Jewish/Israeli "warmongers." One major driving force of this anti-Zionism/anti-Semitism is the transformation of the Palestinian cause into a "holy war"; another source is anti-Americanism linked with fundamentalist Islamism. In the current context, classic conspiracy theories, such as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, are enjoying a spectacular revival. The common denominator of the new anti-Zionism has been the systematic effort to criminalize Israeli and Jewish behavior, so as to place it beyond the pale of civilized and acceptable conduct. |
Leigh2154
Joined Sun 10/02/11 Posts: 8453 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: Anti-Zionism and Anti-Semitism Robert Wistrich1 http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-wistrich-f04.htm Anti-Zionism has become the most dangerous and effective form of anti- Semitism in our time, through its systematic delegitimization, defamation, and demonization of Israel. Although not a priori anti-Semitic, the calls to dismantle the Jewish state, whether they come from Muslims, the Left, or the radical Right, increasingly rely on an anti-Semitic stereotypization of classic themes, such as the manipulative "Jewish lobby," the Jewish/Zionist "world conspiracy," and Jewish/Israeli "warmongers." One major driving force of this anti-Zionism/anti-Semitism is the transformation of the Palestinian cause into a "holy war"; another source is anti-Americanism linked with fundamentalist Islamism. In the current context, classic conspiracy theories, such as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, are enjoying a spectacular revival. The common denominator of the new anti-Zionism has been the systematic effort to criminalize Israeli and Jewish behavior, so as to place it beyond the pale of civilized and acceptable conduct. |