Topic: The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine
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Thu 06/21/12 08:01 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 06/21/12 08:03 AM


Please post the rest too,otherwise People might get Ideas!


I posted a clickable link, if "people" don't want to take the trouble to click it, let them get all the ideas they want.



hoping they wouldn't?
Especially since you had already posted a portion of the Article which would support,out of Context your Contention!
Why would the Bulk of the Readers bother to click on the link?



DUH if they are that lazy then they don't really give a damn.
I posted what I think says it all.

P.S. My "contention?" My contention is that IT WASN'T DEFENSIVE IT WAS AGGRESSIVE.

It was an invasion. Plain and simple.

Facts are facts. Deal with it.




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Thu 06/21/12 08:01 AM

The intent of Plan Dalet is subject to much controversy, with historians on the one extreme asserting that it was entirely defensive, and historians on the other extreme asserting that the plan aimed at maximum conquest and expulsion.


So lets see, here you have an invasion force destroying villages and chasing people from their homes. How anyone can rewrite history and call that "defensive" is totally absurd.

Its Rothschild Zionism at work.
rofl slaphead

Optomistic69's photo
Thu 06/21/12 08:02 AM

Please post the rest too,otherwise People might get Ideas!


I posted a clickable link, if "people" don't want to take the trouble to click it, let them get all the ideas they want.





The Zionist Propagandists are not interested in clickingbigsmile

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 06/21/12 08:03 AM



Please post the rest too,otherwise People might get Ideas!


I posted a clickable link, if "people" don't want to take the trouble to click it, let them get all the ideas they want.



hoping they wouldn't?
Especially since you had already posted a portion of the Article which would support,out of Context your Contention!
Why would the Bulk of the Readers bother to click on the link?



DUH if they are that lazy then they don't really give a damn.
I posted what I think says it all.


I could think of another Term!laugh

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 06/21/12 08:04 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 06/21/12 08:06 AM


Please post the rest too,otherwise People might get Ideas!


I posted a clickable link, if "people" don't want to take the trouble to click it, let them get all the ideas they want.





The Zionist Propagandists are not interested in clickingbigsmile
so how come you didn't even bother to post a Link!
Forgot I presume,even though I also could think of a different term !laugh
As in "Jet-propelled Goalposts"!

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Thu 06/21/12 08:06 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 06/21/12 08:08 AM
IT WASN'T DEFENSIVE IT WAS AGGRESSIVE.

Jewish solidarity in the family was not homogeneous. Some Rothschilds were supporters of Zionism, while other members of the family opposed the creation of the Jewish state. Lord Victor Rothschild was against granting asylum or even help to Jewish refugees during the Holocaust. <----------------THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT JEWS.


[23] In 1917 Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild was the addressee of the Balfour Declaration to the Zionist Federation,[30] which committed the British government to the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.<----------------------THEY CREATED ZIONISM.



Its Rothschild Zionism at work.

They just want to stir up war so they can transfer the wealth to their own pockets.

That's what they do.





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Thu 06/21/12 08:11 AM

IT WASN'T DEFENSIVE IT WAS AGGRESSIVE.

Jewish solidarity in the family was not homogeneous. Some Rothschilds were supporters of Zionism, while other members of the family opposed the creation of the Jewish state. Lord Victor Rothschild was against granting asylum or even help to Jewish refugees during the Holocaust. <----------------THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT JEWS.




[23] In 1917 Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild was the addressee of the Balfour Declaration to the Zionist Federation,[30] which committed the British government to the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.<----------------------THEY CREATED ZIONISM.



CT much?


Rothschild must have gone under the name of Theodor Herzl!:laughing:

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Thu 06/21/12 08:22 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 06/21/12 08:23 AM


IT WASN'T DEFENSIVE IT WAS AGGRESSIVE.

Jewish solidarity in the family was not homogeneous. Some Rothschilds were supporters of Zionism, while other members of the family opposed the creation of the Jewish state. Lord Victor Rothschild was against granting asylum or even help to Jewish refugees during the Holocaust. <----------------THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT JEWS.




[23] In 1917 Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild was the addressee of the Balfour Declaration to the Zionist Federation,[30] which committed the British government to the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.<----------------------THEY CREATED ZIONISM.



CT much?


Rothschild must have gone under the name of Theodor Herzl!:laughing:



Hey I got that information from one of your favorite sources... Wikipedia.


King of the Jews: Rothschilds


In Europe, the money is primarily the Rothschilds' who control all the world's private central banks (including America's Federal Reserve and international lending-policing agencies such as the World Bank-IMF tag-team and the WTO) with complex interlocking relationships among a closed-knit tiny fraternity who exercise their will upon international banking and global finance and thus upon all nations of the world, through their largely unknown Bank for International Settlements (http://BIS.org) located in Basle, Switzerland.

Entirely coincidentally of course, BIS is located in the same secretive banking capital where Theodor Herzl had earlier made his notorious Jewish manifesto, Der Judenstaat public in the First World Zionist Congress in 1897 to set the public stage for the creation of the exclusively Jewish state of Israel in 1948.

Also entirely coincidentally, the British Empire had gratuitously issued its famous 1917 Balfour Declaration in the name of Lord Rothschild, the principal owner and founder of the international financial system who had controlled the Bank of England since Waterloo.

And again entirely coincidentally, America's entry into World War I was facilitated after the founding of its own 'Bank of England', i.e., the Federal Reserve System principally by Paul Warburg, the banking fraternal twin of Lord Rothschild in whose palace the Treaty of Versailles was signed after World War I to enable the British Mandate over the lands of historic Palestine.

These remarkable coincidences have today made the Rothschilds the most revered family name in Israel. Some call them the King of the Jews - and to live up to that Solomon-ly title, the Rothschilds have architected, financed and built the Jewish state's principal hall of Justice, the Israeli Supreme Court in Jerusalem.

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Thu 06/21/12 08:38 AM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Thu 06/21/12 08:40 AM
The Rothschilds have been in control of the world for a very long time, their tentacles reaching into many aspects of our daily lives, please read this invaluable introduction which will tell you who the Rothschilds are as oppose to who they claim to be.
The Rothschilds claim that they are Jewish, when in fact they are Khazars. They are from a country called Khazaria, which occupied the land locked between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea which is now predominantly occupied by Georgia. The reason the Rothschilds claim to be Jewish is that the Khazars under the instruction of the King, converted to the Jewish faith in 740 A.D., but of course that did not include converting their Asiatic Mongolian genes to the genes of the Jewish people.

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Thu 06/21/12 08:43 AM
You will find that approximately 90% of people in the world today who call themselves Jews are actually Khazars, or as they like to be known, Ashkenazi Jews. These people knowingly lie to the world with their claims that the land of Israel is theirs by birthright, when in actual fact their real homeland is over 800 miles away in Georgia.

So, next time you hear an Israeli Prime Minister bleating about the so-called persecution of the Jews, consider this, every Prime Minister of Israel has been an Ashkenazi Jew. Therefore when all these Prime Ministers have curried favour with the West for their re-establishment of a Jewish homeland, they have knowingly and deliberately lied to you, as they were never from that region, and they well know it, because it is they who call themselves Ashkenazi Jews.

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Thu 06/21/12 08:43 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 06/21/12 08:44 AM
Even Wiki says that their ethnicity are "Ashkenazi Jewish."
They merely claim to be Jews. (They actually worship Satan, but I doubt if they will admit that.)



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 06/21/12 08:51 AM

The Rothschilds have been in control of the world for a very long time, their tentacles reaching into many aspects of our daily lives, please read this invaluable introduction which will tell you who the Rothschilds are as oppose to who they claim to be.
The Rothschilds claim that they are Jewish, when in fact they are Khazars. They are from a country called Khazaria, which occupied the land locked between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea which is now predominantly occupied by Georgia. The reason the Rothschilds claim to be Jewish is that the Khazars under the instruction of the King, converted to the Jewish faith in 740 A.D., but of course that did not include converting their Asiatic Mongolian genes to the genes of the Jewish people.
you really need to read up on some of the Genetic Research!

laugh

you are sorely behind times!:laughing:

And here is a link to the American Journal of Human Genetics article.

http://www.cell.com/AJHG/abstract/S0002-9297%2810%2900246-6

And in case you cannot get that link to work - Here is the abstract:

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Abstract

For more than a century, Jews and non-Jews alike have tried to define the relatedness of contemporary Jewish people. Previous genetic studies of blood group and serum markers suggested that Jewish groups had Middle Eastern origin with greater genetic similarity between paired Jewish populations. However, these and successor studies of monoallelic Y chromosomal and mitochondrial genetic markers did not resolve the issues of within and between-group Jewish genetic identity. Here, genome-wide analysis of seven Jewish groups (Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, Italian, Turkish, Greek, and Ashkenazi) and comparison with non-Jewish groups demonstrated distinctive Jewish population clusters, each with shared Middle Eastern ancestry, proximity to contemporary Middle Eastern populations, and variable degrees of European and North African admixture. Two major groups were identified by principal component, phylogenetic, and identity by descent (IBD) analysis: Middle Eastern Jews and European/Syrian Jews. The IBD segment sharing and the proximity of European Jews to each other and to southern European populations suggested similar origins for European Jewry and refuted large-scale genetic contributions of Central and Eastern European and Slavic populations to the formation of Ashkenazi Jewry. Rapid decay of IBD in Ashkenazi Jewish genomes was consistent with a severe bottleneck followed by large expansion, such as occurred with the so-called demographic miracle of population expansion from 50,000 people at the beginning of the 15th century to 5,000,000 people at the beginning of the 19th century. Thus, this study demonstrates that European/Syrian and Middle Eastern Jews represent a series of geographical isolates or clusters woven together by shared IBD genetic threads.

=-=-=-=

Yes, amazingly enough there is common ancestry for all groups from
all over the world and it is traced back to the Middle East. Using
the latest and best DNA techniques! You may not like it but it is
a fact.


http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929710002466



Way behind,and so is your Friend!:laughing:

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 06/21/12 08:52 AM

Even Wiki says that their ethnicity are "Ashkenazi Jewish."
They merely claim to be Jews. (They actually worship Satan, but I doubt if they will admit that.)



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family


you really need to read up on some of the Genetic Research!

laugh

you are sorely behind times!:laughing:

And here is a link to the American Journal of Human Genetics article.

http://www.cell.com/AJHG/abstract/S0002-9297%2810%2900246-6

And in case you cannot get that link to work - Here is the abstract:

=-=-=-=

Abstract

For more than a century, Jews and non-Jews alike have tried to define the relatedness of contemporary Jewish people. Previous genetic studies of blood group and serum markers suggested that Jewish groups had Middle Eastern origin with greater genetic similarity between paired Jewish populations. However, these and successor studies of monoallelic Y chromosomal and mitochondrial genetic markers did not resolve the issues of within and between-group Jewish genetic identity. Here, genome-wide analysis of seven Jewish groups (Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, Italian, Turkish, Greek, and Ashkenazi) and comparison with non-Jewish groups demonstrated distinctive Jewish population clusters, each with shared Middle Eastern ancestry, proximity to contemporary Middle Eastern populations, and variable degrees of European and North African admixture. Two major groups were identified by principal component, phylogenetic, and identity by descent (IBD) analysis: Middle Eastern Jews and European/Syrian Jews. The IBD segment sharing and the proximity of European Jews to each other and to southern European populations suggested similar origins for European Jewry and refuted large-scale genetic contributions of Central and Eastern European and Slavic populations to the formation of Ashkenazi Jewry. Rapid decay of IBD in Ashkenazi Jewish genomes was consistent with a severe bottleneck followed by large expansion, such as occurred with the so-called demographic miracle of population expansion from 50,000 people at the beginning of the 15th century to 5,000,000 people at the beginning of the 19th century. Thus, this study demonstrates that European/Syrian and Middle Eastern Jews represent a series of geographical isolates or clusters woven together by shared IBD genetic threads.

=-=-=-=

Yes, amazingly enough there is common ancestry for all groups from
all over the world and it is traced back to the Middle East. Using
the latest and best DNA techniques! You may not like it but it is
a fact.


http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929710002466



Way behind,and so is your Friend!:laughing:

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Thu 06/21/12 09:07 AM

From the 1940s Palestinians have been ethnically cleansed and slaughtered so as to create a Homeland for Jews.

The myth

"a land without people for a people without a land"

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Thu 06/21/12 09:39 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 06/21/12 09:56 AM


Even Wiki says that their ethnicity are "Ashkenazi Jewish."
They merely claim to be Jews. (They actually worship Satan, but I doubt if they will admit that.)



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family


you really need to read up on some of the Genetic Research!

laugh

you are sorely behind times!:laughing:

And here is a link to the American Journal of Human Genetics article.

http://www.cell.com/AJHG/abstract/S0002-9297%2810%2900246-6

And in case you cannot get that link to work - Here is the abstract:

=-=-=-=

Abstract

For more than a century, Jews and non-Jews alike have tried to define the relatedness of contemporary Jewish people. Previous genetic studies of blood group and serum markers suggested that Jewish groups had Middle Eastern origin with greater genetic similarity between paired Jewish populations. However, these and successor studies of monoallelic Y chromosomal and mitochondrial genetic markers did not resolve the issues of within and between-group Jewish genetic identity. Here, genome-wide analysis of seven Jewish groups (Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, Italian, Turkish, Greek, and Ashkenazi) and comparison with non-Jewish groups demonstrated distinctive Jewish population clusters, each with shared Middle Eastern ancestry, proximity to contemporary Middle Eastern populations, and variable degrees of European and North African admixture. Two major groups were identified by principal component, phylogenetic, and identity by descent (IBD) analysis: Middle Eastern Jews and European/Syrian Jews. The IBD segment sharing and the proximity of European Jews to each other and to southern European populations suggested similar origins for European Jewry and refuted large-scale genetic contributions of Central and Eastern European and Slavic populations to the formation of Ashkenazi Jewry. Rapid decay of IBD in Ashkenazi Jewish genomes was consistent with a severe bottleneck followed by large expansion, such as occurred with the so-called demographic miracle of population expansion from 50,000 people at the beginning of the 15th century to 5,000,000 people at the beginning of the 19th century. Thus, this study demonstrates that European/Syrian and Middle Eastern Jews represent a series of geographical isolates or clusters woven together by shared IBD genetic threads.

=-=-=-=

Yes, amazingly enough there is common ancestry for all groups from
all over the world and it is traced back to the Middle East. Using
the latest and best DNA techniques! You may not like it but it is
a fact.


http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929710002466



Way behind,and so is your Friend!:laughing:




Even IF that were true, it changes nothing.

Ashkenazi Jews are still a tribe that converted to Judaism, by order of their King long time ago.

They still originate from Europe and are white skinned Caucasian Europeans and nothing like the Jews of Palestine.

Rothschild Zionist Jews still worship Satan and are part of the secret society of the Illuminati, hence they are not "real" Jews where Judaism is concerned.

Also, there is no evidence that Abraham is anything other than a myth created by these same so-called Jews as the entire story comes from what is known as "Jewish text."

It (the Bible) has all pretty much been rewritten.





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Thu 06/21/12 10:21 AM
@ Conrad

Sorry old chap, you make many mistakes which I ignore but I will

pull you up on this one.

You Said
actually,I think he's referred to the very Site of a jewish Jewbaiter,you yourself have posted!

BTW,the name actually is Philip Weiss,claims to be Jewish,and would make Roehm,Goebbels and Soros proud with his anti-Semitism!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondoweiss

http://mondoweiss.net/2010/03/katrina-to-birthright-to-gaza-a-young-jews-progress.html

Yep,baiting worthy of a Kristall-Nacht-Röhm!


Have a good look at the Comments on that Page!
Jewlovers,the lot!









This is the site Hotrod opened his thread with...



http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/2733944.html


Moral of Post Conrad

Think Before you Post

And

Do Unto Others What you would Like them to do unto you

drinker :banana: drinker

rofl rofl rofl

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Thu 06/21/12 11:28 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 06/21/12 11:38 AM
The genetic study of Jews, that Conrad keeps referring to is a lot more involved than you might think.

80% of the world's Jews are Ashkenazi European Jews. Only 50% of those can be said to have genes that can be called "Middle eastern."

The statement that they are "all related and all have middle eastern roots" is not true. They may share a lot of genes in common but as you know, Jews are very strict about marrying within the Jewish community, so that is not a surprise. Jews will most likely only marry another Jew.

And the study also determined that the European Ashkenazi Jews are not Semitic, so calling anti-Zionism "anti-Semitic" is incorrect no matter how you want to spin it because the (Rothschild) Zionist Jews are not Semitic. They are European. Than includes the rest of the Ashkenazi European Jews who make up 80% or more of the entire population of Jews on the planet. They are not Semitic.

NON SEMITIC ANCESTRY:

During Greco-Roman times, recorded mass conversions led to 6 million people practicing Judaism in Roman times or up to 10% of the population of the Roman Empire. Thus, the genetic proximity of these European/Syrian Jewish populations, including Ashkenazi Jews, to each other and to French, Northern Italian, and Sardinian populations favors the idea of non-Semitic Mediterranean ancestry in the formation of the European/Syrian Jewish groups and is incompatible with theories that Ashkenazi Jews are for the most part the direct lineal descendants of converted Khazars or Slavs.32 The genetic proximity of Ashkenazi Jews to southern European populations has been observed in several other recent studies.33–36


So if you believe the study, Ashkenazi Euro Jews are not Semitic and they are also not likely the descendants of converted Khazars.

But the statement "incompatible" with theories of them being related to converted Khazars is not explained. I'm not sure what that means, and its not very convincing as they don't say why they think the theory is "incompatible."

These findings demonstrated that the most distant and differentiated of the Jewish populations were Iranian Jews followed by Iraqi Jews. They have the strongest and most consistent genetic ties to the middle east.

If you really want to read the details of this genetic study here is the link:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3032072/


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Thu 06/21/12 11:44 AM

Israel is the ONLY regime in the Middle East which gives all human
life respect.

Israel's neighboring countries in the Mideast do not have freedom
of religion, do not have equal rights for women, do not have free
speech, do not have freedom of the press, do not allow political
dissent, have capital punishment for activities which are not even
crimes in most of the civilized world and support terrorism as a
legitimate form of attack against those politically opposed to them.

And your history is mistaken. The Palestinians currently have complete
political autonomy throughout the West Bank and Gaza. They could
teach peace there if they wanted. They could lay down their rockets
and prosper. They have been offered their own state before multiple
times. They reject this in their blind irrational hate of Jews and
instead continued to commit religious violence much to the detriment
to their own citizens and everyone else.

Yes all people are due respect for basic human rights and
Israel is the ONLY country in the region which extends this
respect of basic human rights to everyone.

I really do understand the turmoil and violence on all sides.
To understand it is to also comprehend the true nature of the
conflict and the sharp differences in the societies and cultures.

Although Israel does not have a Constitution like ours, they do
have a Declaration of Independence and also a series of public
laws which hold for all in Israel. It is these laws which give
everyone in Israel essentially the same rights and privileges
and freedoms we enjoy here in the US.

All you need to do is look it up or visit Israel. People there
observe every religion openly. Jews, Muslims and Christians.
People are free to choose any religion they wish, marry whomever
they want and convert to any religion they wish. The press is
protected and many different groups in Israel openly and vocally
protest any and all govt policies with which they disagree.

To not believe this simply means you don't know. For example,

After the war in 1967, Israel guaranteed that mosques churches
would be protected including of course the Al-Aqsa mosque on the
temple mount. They have kept this promise even during times of
strife and war. A law entitled "Protection of Holy Sites Law"
protects all holy sites including non-Jewish sites
although they leave the administration of these sites to their
respective religious groups. It is inaccurate to suggest that Israel
does not protect non-Jewish sites. In particular Israel has gone
out of their way to protect the Al-Aqsa mount from attacks by
non-Muslim groups.

Marriage in Israel is a religious event but they also recognize
common law marriage.

Israeli law explicitly incorporates the UN International Covenant
on Civil and Political Rights of 1966, which says in part "no one
shall be subjected to torture, inhuman or degrading treatment or
punishment". and "No exceptional circumstances whatsoever, whether
a state of war or a threat of war, internal political instability
or any other public emergency, may be invoked as a justification of
torture."

That is just the way it is in Israel. You can look it up.
It is NOT the same in Gaza, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Saudi Arabia,
Iran and Iraq.

Israel did not take the land either. Most of it was purchased and
at exorbitant prices. Vacated land was captured during defensive
wars and a land mass larger than the current state of Israel which
was won during these wars has already been given back (Gaza and
the Negev). The rest could've been negotiated a dozen times over if
the Palestinians really wanted peace. But they don't.

Palestinian reject peace and chase victory.
Palestinians and their Islamic jihadist friends seek to rid the region of Jews.

That my friend is the real agenda of ethnic cleansing.

Indeed there is blood on both sides but the sides but only the
Jewish Israeli side protects these rights and freedoms we all
expect.

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Thu 06/21/12 11:49 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 06/21/12 11:50 AM
Slowhand, they don't trust the Zionists. The Rothschild Zionists will not be happy until they have complete control of the entire region. They as always, have lied and gone back on promises and can't be trusted.

Yes Islam is a religion that is still in the stone age. But guess what? Guess who created the three Abrahamic religion in the first place?

The Secret society of the Illuminati, and it is all written in what is referred to as "Jewish text" or the Old testament.

When the world realizes that King David and Abraham are nothing more that myths, and the three major religions fall flat on their faces, then your King will appear and it will be a Rothschild.


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Thu 06/21/12 12:05 PM



When the world realizes that King David and Abraham are nothing more that myths, and the three major religions fall flat on their faces, then your King will appear and it will be a Rothschild.




I like that:thumbsup: waving