Topic: Obama desicrates the stars and stripes
msharmony
Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 32482 |
QUOTE: I'll stick with what the debt clock tells me and not some media outlet. the debt clock is fine, the time reference may be faulty though one has to understand fiscal budgets, their dates, etc,,, fiscal years run from oct - oct so Bush first budget ran from oct 2001 and his last ended october 2009 Baracks first budget ran from oct 2009 plugging in those numbers , debt at the beginning of bush first budget was 5.8 trillion and at the end of his final budget was 11.8 trillion an increase of 6 trillion dollars over his eight fiscal budgets (as opposed to 4.6) http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/mspd/2012/2012_aug.htm 2 trillion of that was his first four years , the other four trillion was in his last four years obamas first budget started with 11.8 trillion and we are now at 16 trillion an increase of 4.2 tril in three fiscal budgets (as opposed to 5.7) |
boredinaz06
Joined Sun 10/15/06 Posts: 21995 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: I'll stick with what the debt clock tells me and not some media outlet. the debt clock is fine, the time reference may be faulty though one has to understand fiscal budgets, their dates, etc,,, fiscal years run from oct - oct so Bush first budget ran from oct 2001 and his last ended october 2009 Baracks first budget ran from oct 2009 plugging in those numbers , debt at the beginning of bush first budget was 5.8 trillion and at the end of his final budget was 11.8 trillion an increase of 6 trillion dollars over his eight fiscal budgets (as opposed to 4.6) http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/mspd/2012/2012_aug.htm 2 trillion of that was his first four years , the other four trillion was in his last four years obamas first budget started with 11.8 trillion and we are now at 16 trillion an increase of 4.2 tril in three fiscal budgets (as opposed to 5.7) If you paid close attention I stated that "On this day in" and your figures are wrong. |
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msharmony
Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 32482 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: I'll stick with what the debt clock tells me and not some media outlet. the debt clock is fine, the time reference may be faulty though one has to understand fiscal budgets, their dates, etc,,, fiscal years run from oct - oct so Bush first budget ran from oct 2001 and his last ended october 2009 Baracks first budget ran from oct 2009 plugging in those numbers , debt at the beginning of bush first budget was 5.8 trillion and at the end of his final budget was 11.8 trillion an increase of 6 trillion dollars over his eight fiscal budgets (as opposed to 4.6) http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/mspd/2012/2012_aug.htm 2 trillion of that was his first four years , the other four trillion was in his last four years obamas first budget started with 11.8 trillion and we are now at 16 trillion an increase of 4.2 tril in three fiscal budgets (as opposed to 5.7) If you paid close attention I stated that "On this day in" and your figures are wrong. I did pay attention, thats why I stated that the time reference was 'faulty' when discussing what a president (which correctly should be read what a 'government made of congress AND president) adds, spends, etc,, the time reference should refer to that presidents(and congress) FISCAL BUDGETS< not the first day of their term when the last fiscal budget is still being implemented,,, my figures come from the treasury
Edited by msharmony on Sat 09/22/12 10:17 AM
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kc0003
Joined Fri 05/11/07 Posts: 22659 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: sorry, i don’t see our flag here. i see a rendering of a likeness. and for the record, the real flag does have red stripes. I don't know what your smoking but the American flag absolutely has red stripes on it. The red stripes signify hardiness and valor! that was my point to your comment "Notice the commie red for the stripes" |
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msharmony
Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 32482 |
I wonder if these red stripes mean commie? or maybe the elephant means americans are obese?...lol |
Jenknee
Joined Mon 04/26/10 Posts: 402 |
Just another example of Obama's arrogance. I cannot stand the guy.
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kc0003
Joined Fri 05/11/07 Posts: 22659 |
QUOTE: I'll stick with what the debt clock tells me and not some media outlet. that’s fine, but what the debt clock doesn’t show is how we got here. this process has been under-way for many years, we didn’t arrive at this point in just the last 3 ½ years. until you, and everyone, else can see outside of party politics, there will be no end. as much as you may hate to admit it, not every single idea, policy, choice or vote the guys with the ‘evil’ (d)’s in front of their names make are bad. the same can be said for the ones with the little (r)’s. it’s the philosophies that need to be altered. no, I don’t think that governments should provide for everyone, but on the other hand, I don’t believe they should blindly allow certain individuals (corporations) to prosper un-fairly either. when did it become the rule that as long as the guys on top were doing well, (very well) than the country as a whole, was doing well also? the problem with that is that nothing trickles! it hasn’t, doesn’t and never will work. if it did, we would not have had the difficult times we now face. banks, wall street, insurance companies, drug companies, oil conglomerates …ect have made more money in the last 10 years than the previous 200 plus years of this country. so, what happened? where did all of the jobs go? aren’t these the very people that we now call the “job creators”? why have the salaries’ of the heads of these companies skyrocketed, yet, the pay for the people that turn the screws, push the papers, cook the food, teach the children, patrol the streets has increased by a miniscule amount? (in comparison) you cannot cap a high-rise without first building a foundation. we once had that, but we are losing it more and more each year as we allow and, in some cases, encourage the disappearance of the middle class. nothing is more telling to me about the fundamental philosophy, than the statement by the now vice presidential candidate, on labor day; when he basically told business owners it was their day to celebrate their hard work and to pat themselves on the back for making their prospective companies successful. isn’t that the opposite of “labor day”?
Edited by kc0003 on Sat 09/22/12 01:42 PM
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Conrad_73
Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 8053 |
QUOTE: finally a Flag Americans can burn! http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/peoples-communities-cube/2012/sep/20/finally-flag-americans-can-burn/ |
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boredinaz06
Joined Sun 10/15/06 Posts: 21995 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: I'll stick with what the debt clock tells me and not some media outlet. the debt clock is fine, the time reference may be faulty though one has to understand fiscal budgets, their dates, etc,,, fiscal years run from oct - oct so Bush first budget ran from oct 2001 and his last ended october 2009 Baracks first budget ran from oct 2009 plugging in those numbers , debt at the beginning of bush first budget was 5.8 trillion and at the end of his final budget was 11.8 trillion an increase of 6 trillion dollars over his eight fiscal budgets (as opposed to 4.6) http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/mspd/2012/2012_aug.htm 2 trillion of that was his first four years , the other four trillion was in his last four years obamas first budget started with 11.8 trillion and we are now at 16 trillion an increase of 4.2 tril in three fiscal budgets (as opposed to 5.7) If you paid close attention I stated that "On this day in" and your figures are wrong. I did pay attention, thats why I stated that the time reference was 'faulty' when discussing what a president (which correctly should be read what a 'government made of congress AND president) adds, spends, etc,, the time reference should refer to that presidents(and congress) FISCAL BUDGETS< not the first day of their term when the last fiscal budget is still being implemented,,, my figures come from the treasury The debt clocks figures are not faulty, you just can't admit that Obama is a big spender. |
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boredinaz06
Joined Sun 10/15/06 Posts: 21995 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: sorry, i don’t see our flag here. i see a rendering of a likeness. and for the record, the real flag does have red stripes. I don't know what your smoking but the American flag absolutely has red stripes on it. The red stripes signify hardiness and valor! that was my point to your comment "Notice the commie red for the stripes" I seemed to have missed the "does have", my bad! |
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boredinaz06
Joined Sun 10/15/06 Posts: 21995 |
QUOTE:
I wonder if these red stripes mean commie? or maybe the elephant means americans are obese?...lol Probably Americans are obese. Anytime anyone uses the flag in any likeness to promote themselves I find them to be disrespectful. |
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boredinaz06
Joined Sun 10/15/06 Posts: 21995 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: I'll stick with what the debt clock tells me and not some media outlet. that’s fine, but what the debt clock doesn’t show is how we got here. this process has been under-way for many years, we didn’t arrive at this point in just the last 3 ½ years. until you, and everyone, else can see outside of party politics, there will be no end. as much as you may hate to admit it, not every single idea, policy, choice or vote the guys with the ‘evil’ (d)’s in front of their names make are bad. the same can be said for the ones with the little (r)’s. it’s the philosophies that need to be altered. no, I don’t think that governments should provide for everyone, but on the other hand, I don’t believe they should blindly allow certain individuals (corporations) to prosper un-fairly either. when did it become the rule that as long as the guys on top were doing well, (very well) than the country as a whole, was doing well also? the problem with that is that nothing trickles! it hasn’t, doesn’t and never will work. if it did, we would not have had the difficult times we now face. banks, wall street, insurance companies, drug companies, oil conglomerates …ect have made more money in the last 10 years than the previous 200 plus years of this country. so, what happened? where did all of the jobs go? aren’t these the very people that we now call the “job creators”? why have the salaries’ of the heads of these companies skyrocketed, yet, the pay for the people that turn the screws, push the papers, cook the food, teach the children, patrol the streets has increased by a miniscule amount? (in comparison) you cannot cap a high-rise without first building a foundation. we once had that, but we are losing it more and more each year as we allow and, in some cases, encourage the disappearance of the middle class. nothing is more telling to me about the fundamental philosophy, than the statement by the now vice presidential candidate, on labor day; when he basically told business owners it was their day to celebrate their hard work and to pat themselves on the back for making their prospective companies successful. isn’t that the opposite of “labor day”? Give it up, Obama is a big spender period!
Edited by boredinaz06 on Sat 09/22/12 02:10 PM
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kc0003
Joined Fri 05/11/07 Posts: 22659 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: sorry, i don’t see our flag here. i see a rendering of a likeness. and for the record, the real flag does have red stripes. I don't know what your smoking but the American flag absolutely has red stripes on it. The red stripes signify hardiness and valor! that was my point to your comment "Notice the commie red for the stripes" I seemed to have missed the "does have", my bad! it happens... |
willing2
Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 14887 |
Barry; Quran burning, no. Flag burning, yes.
Edited by willing2 on Sat 09/22/12 02:19 PM
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kc0003
Joined Fri 05/11/07 Posts: 22659 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: I'll stick with what the debt clock tells me and not some media outlet. that’s fine, but what the debt clock doesn’t show is how we got here. this process has been under-way for many years, we didn’t arrive at this point in just the last 3 ½ years. until you, and everyone, else can see outside of party politics, there will be no end. as much as you may hate to admit it, not every single idea, policy, choice or vote the guys with the ‘evil’ (d)’s in front of their names make are bad. the same can be said for the ones with the little (r)’s. it’s the philosophies that need to be altered. no, I don’t think that governments should provide for everyone, but on the other hand, I don’t believe they should blindly allow certain individuals (corporations) to prosper un-fairly either. when did it become the rule that as long as the guys on top were doing well, (very well) than the country as a whole, was doing well also? the problem with that is that nothing trickles! it hasn’t, doesn’t and never will work. if it did, we would not have had the difficult times we now face. banks, wall street, insurance companies, drug companies, oil conglomerates …ect have made more money in the last 10 years than the previous 200 plus years of this country. so, what happened? where did all of the jobs go? aren’t these the very people that we now call the “job creators”? why have the salaries’ of the heads of these companies skyrocketed, yet, the pay for the people that turn the screws, push the papers, cook the food, teach the children, patrol the streets has increased by a miniscule amount? (in comparison) you cannot cap a high-rise without first building a foundation. we once had that, but we are losing it more and more each year as we allow and, in some cases, encourage the disappearance of the middle class. nothing is more telling to me about the fundamental philosophy, than the statement by the now vice presidential candidate, on labor day; when he basically told business owners it was their day to celebrate their hard work and to pat themselves on the back for making their prospective companies successful. isn’t that the opposite of “labor day”? Give it up, Obama is a big spender period! ummm, news flash!...they all are! |
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boredinaz06
Joined Sun 10/15/06 Posts: 21995 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: I'll stick with what the debt clock tells me and not some media outlet. that’s fine, but what the debt clock doesn’t show is how we got here. this process has been under-way for many years, we didn’t arrive at this point in just the last 3 ½ years. until you, and everyone, else can see outside of party politics, there will be no end. as much as you may hate to admit it, not every single idea, policy, choice or vote the guys with the ‘evil’ (d)’s in front of their names make are bad. the same can be said for the ones with the little (r)’s. it’s the philosophies that need to be altered. no, I don’t think that governments should provide for everyone, but on the other hand, I don’t believe they should blindly allow certain individuals (corporations) to prosper un-fairly either. when did it become the rule that as long as the guys on top were doing well, (very well) than the country as a whole, was doing well also? the problem with that is that nothing trickles! it hasn’t, doesn’t and never will work. if it did, we would not have had the difficult times we now face. banks, wall street, insurance companies, drug companies, oil conglomerates …ect have made more money in the last 10 years than the previous 200 plus years of this country. so, what happened? where did all of the jobs go? aren’t these the very people that we now call the “job creators”? why have the salaries’ of the heads of these companies skyrocketed, yet, the pay for the people that turn the screws, push the papers, cook the food, teach the children, patrol the streets has increased by a miniscule amount? (in comparison) you cannot cap a high-rise without first building a foundation. we once had that, but we are losing it more and more each year as we allow and, in some cases, encourage the disappearance of the middle class. nothing is more telling to me about the fundamental philosophy, than the statement by the now vice presidential candidate, on labor day; when he basically told business owners it was their day to celebrate their hard work and to pat themselves on the back for making their prospective companies successful. isn’t that the opposite of “labor day”? Give it up, Obama is a big spender period! ummm, news flash!...they all are! Not as big as he is, nor has any past president been as smug and arrogant as this jackass in chief. |
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kc0003
Joined Fri 05/11/07 Posts: 22659 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: I'll stick with what the debt clock tells me and not some media outlet. that’s fine, but what the debt clock doesn’t show is how we got here. this process has been under-way for many years, we didn’t arrive at this point in just the last 3 ½ years. until you, and everyone, else can see outside of party politics, there will be no end. as much as you may hate to admit it, not every single idea, policy, choice or vote the guys with the ‘evil’ (d)’s in front of their names make are bad. the same can be said for the ones with the little (r)’s. it’s the philosophies that need to be altered. no, I don’t think that governments should provide for everyone, but on the other hand, I don’t believe they should blindly allow certain individuals (corporations) to prosper un-fairly either. when did it become the rule that as long as the guys on top were doing well, (very well) than the country as a whole, was doing well also? the problem with that is that nothing trickles! it hasn’t, doesn’t and never will work. if it did, we would not have had the difficult times we now face. banks, wall street, insurance companies, drug companies, oil conglomerates …ect have made more money in the last 10 years than the previous 200 plus years of this country. so, what happened? where did all of the jobs go? aren’t these the very people that we now call the “job creators”? why have the salaries’ of the heads of these companies skyrocketed, yet, the pay for the people that turn the screws, push the papers, cook the food, teach the children, patrol the streets has increased by a miniscule amount? (in comparison) you cannot cap a high-rise without first building a foundation. we once had that, but we are losing it more and more each year as we allow and, in some cases, encourage the disappearance of the middle class. nothing is more telling to me about the fundamental philosophy, than the statement by the now vice presidential candidate, on labor day; when he basically told business owners it was their day to celebrate their hard work and to pat themselves on the back for making their prospective companies successful. isn’t that the opposite of “labor day”? Give it up, Obama is a big spender period! ummm, news flash!...they all are! Not as big as he is, nor has any past president been as smug and arrogant as this jackass in chief. ok,show me your post of outrage from '08 and '09 when the then administration outspent all previous administrations combined. otherwise, just admit, it’s not really about that. |
CeriseRose
Joined Mon 08/02/10 Posts: 3004 |
Edited by CeriseRose on Sun 09/23/12 12:27 AM
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metalwing
Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 21253 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: damn freedom hating anti americans why do americans keep voting them in? 
it seems that for every accusation anyone brings up against obama, you seem to feel the need to dig something up from the past to make an excuse for him. like that makes what obama does ok because someone else in the past did it. monkey see, monkey do is a funny way to support your candidate That is correct and ANYONE can tell that the Obama flag is obviously a twisted version of the American flag that violates flag etiquette. |
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msharmony
Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 32482 |
QUOTE: QUOTE:
I wonder if these red stripes mean commie? or maybe the elephant means americans are obese?...lol Probably Americans are obese. Anytime anyone uses the flag in any likeness to promote themselves I find them to be disrespectful. finally, someone who is consistent at least KUDOS |
