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markumX Joined Wed 06/03/09 Posts: 667 |
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Religion and taking a life
The Bible in twitter form. "don't kill unless i tell you to then it's ok"
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markumX Joined Wed 06/03/09 Posts: 667 |
"athiests are angry and bitter" this statement is utterly idiotic. If we're ever angry it's because whoever is confronting us with their holier than thou attitude makes us.
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markumX Joined Wed 06/03/09 Posts: 667 |
yeah evolution may be a theory but there's more evidence of evolution than of a diety that's got more insecurity than a 16 year old on MTV's super sweet 16.
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markumX Joined Wed 06/03/09 Posts: 667 |
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Biblical Quadrains?
most of these aren't quadtrains. quadtrains are four line verses (see nostrudamis)
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markumX Joined Wed 06/03/09 Posts: 667 |
as an ex muslim i find this interesting too. i think this is just lipservice.
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markumX Joined Wed 06/03/09 Posts: 667 |
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Signs and Revelations?
i suddenly want to go bang my head on the wailing wall.
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markumX Joined Wed 06/03/09 Posts: 667 |
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Signs and Revelations?
i call that check..and mate
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markumX Joined Wed 06/03/09 Posts: 667 |
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Signs and Revelations?
LOL
two points...first you say Jesus' appearance wasn't about religion..yet we have Christianity. You say he was here to teach us his father's laws..i thought Jesus was his own father? This is the widely accepted myth of christianity and why did God need him to do it, if he's all powerful and knowing, why couldn't he do it himself? and how were there dinosaurs when they all predate the Torah? |
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markumX Joined Wed 06/03/09 Posts: 667 |
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Signs and Revelations?
The signs of the end times have been happening for the past 1500 years. it's not happening now, and it's not going to happen anytime soon unless the sun decides to incerate us.
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markumX Joined Wed 06/03/09 Posts: 667 |
who's to say they didn't thousands of years ago. read any ancient texts and what they describe could be these more intelligent beings or more importantly could be the ones that actually populated earth with humans.
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QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: QUOTE: It's not my fault you have no sense of beauty while looking at the universe or the fossil records. What does the above quote have in common with this quote? QUOTE: Maybe it's the fact that some are actually scared of the "beauty" and not the other way. Perhaps some people are just "ugly" and the only way they can feel better is to put down everything and everyone. Show your work. -Kerry O. Yet a prime example of the title of the thread. The last quote was first, the first quote was last. So I'll show an example of how I came to the first quote. http://mingle2.com/forum/show_posts_by_user/117819 LOL. I fail to see the words of any 'god' that are being twisted here. -Kerry O. "Perhaps some people are just "ugly" and the only way they can feel better is to put down everything and everyone." yeah i'm so sure you're tolerant toward muslims or you'd keep an open mind toward someone that believed the idea that religion spawned from extra terrestrial intervention. |
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markumX Joined Wed 06/03/09 Posts: 667 |
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The babel god hears...
being an ex muslim i have to correct cowboy..you may be misinformed, Muhammand never said Jesus was resurrected, in fact this is the main staple in Islamic belief concerning Jesus. In fact it states in the quran that the belief that Jesus was raised from the dead is the corruption in christian doctrine.
In Islam, it's the belief that Jesus' spirit was raised into heaven at the time of the alleged crucifiction and it was Simon that took his place. The prophet Jesus probably did teach not to judge...but tell that to the thousands of lives that were cut short by the catholic church with charges of heresy and apostacy. |
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markumX Joined Wed 06/03/09 Posts: 667 |
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Purgatory
Purgatory came from a crackpot theory by the catholic church. There's no evidence in any religious texts that support this..it's more or less a "hope" that such a place exists.
The mormons believe in a place similar to this where by ghost missionaries try to convert them to their religion which by then they send telepathic messages to those that run the temples in which then someone gets baptized in your name thereby by making you a mormon out of your own free will. |
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markumX Joined Wed 06/03/09 Posts: 667 |
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The babel god hears...
QUOTE: QUOTE: If I was god I would want ear plugs sometimes... Take a small piece of the earth near the Middle Terran sea. Muslim praying before battle... God grant me the ability of defeating and destroying my enemy Israel. Jew praying before battle... God grant me the ability of defeating and destroying my enemy Islam. QUESTION: If you have two sons... and they are fighting... What do you do? Punish them both? or take sides? God would do nothing. For what they are praying for goes against his will and his laws he has set out before us. We have been instructed to love one another and turn the other cheek. Waring is quite the opposite of this. you really haven't read a real bible then. this is exactly what he likes per the Tenach and the quran..in both books he commands his people to kill unbelievers. |
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QUOTE: QUOTE: "Men never commit evil so fully and joyfully as when they do it for religious convictions." Blaise Pascal, of "Pascal's Wager" fame. "With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." Steven Weinberg. "Throughout history religionolics have killed, tortured and ostracized millions on the altar of their religion and particular Invisible Man in the Sky! "If God listened to the prayers of men, all men would quickly have perished: for they are forever praying for evil against one another." Epicurus (341 - 270 BC, Athens) Greek philosopher. "The secret of health for both mind and body is not to mourn for the past, worry about the future, or anticipate troubles, but to live in the present moment wisely and earnestly." Buddha Maybe.....listen to Buddha :) If we let go of religion and the evil it brings upon people, and let go of the mythology of ....original sin in the past (eating an apple because a snake said to) and heaven-hell in the future (imaginary places) and just relax and enjoy ..... the moment... Hmmmmmmmm, what a thought :) Yes, maybe listen to Buddha and stop dwelling on the past and accusing the religious of doing evil things...
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markumX Joined Wed 06/03/09 Posts: 667 |
i was told today some of these saints are still roaming the earth today. How idiotic is that? to answer the question, a simple search of 21 saviors will give you ample results or may i suggest the book, Christianity before christ. Let me add that a majority of these stories are based on Astrology.
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markumX Joined Wed 06/03/09 Posts: 667 |
QUOTE: QUOTE: According to which god? the god of the jews in the OT rejects anyone that isn't jewish. Having lived in Jerusalem it's as simple as talking to any rabbi i've gotten this message. Read the OT. Rahab wasn't Jewish and according to James, she was "justified by works" and in Hebrews 11 says "By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace". QUOTE: this angry jealous god tells the hebrew to people to kill kill kill kill the gentiles. Wait a second...you are a theology major? Have you read the Old Testament? The Israelites weren't told to kill Gentiles, they were told to kill the Canaanites, which was a small subset of Gentiles. And when they finally rid Canaan of the Canaanites, they lived in peace except when their neighbors attacked them. QUOTE: But wait, jesus comes along and condemns this (why would god condemn his own words assuming you believe jesus is god) Jesus never condemned the conquest of Canaan. again you don't know what you're talking about. You do know that the term gentile was given to anyone that wasn't jewish right? All throughout the OT , god tells his prescious chosen ones to kill non believers not to mention their own if they breat petty laws such as working on saturdays or the more taboo ones ie adultery, beastiality. As far as the Canannites goes, what did they do to deserve such genocide other than rejecting god's faith which makes no sense seeing that you had to be "jewish" to be in the Jew exclusive faith. They didn't just slaughter the men, but they were commanded to slaughter the children as well and keep the women as concubines. But it didn't start and stop with the canannites, moses was told to slaughter the Midianites. Along with those that were victims of god's genocide were the Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites and will not go into the genocides that muslims have carried out in god's name. On Jesus..according to your (assuming you're christian if not the christian doctrine) the whole purpose of jesus being on earth was to rebuke jewish law or to perfect the jewish religion that included non semites..or the gentiles according to which christian school of thought you ask. So even though he didn't specify what he condemned, he was never specific in anything he said, his message was to in a sense say you jews got it all wrong..again this is silly if you believe that he's God..it makes no sense that god would establish a religion, manifest himself in flesh to rebuke his own religion, set things in motion that he would die for the sins of man when he could have just waved a finger and made it so, venture to hell to save souls that he himself condemned to hell before he came to earth. Of course it's pending this really happened. |
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markumX Joined Wed 06/03/09 Posts: 667 |
Again, God doesn't "reject" anyone. are you serious cowboy? According to which god? the god of the jews in the OT rejects anyone that isn't jewish. Having lived in Jerusalem it's as simple as talking to any rabbi i've gotten this message. Read the OT. this angry jealous god tells the hebrew to people to kill kill kill kill the gentiles. But wait, jesus comes along and condemns this (why would god condemn his own words assuming you believe jesus is god) christianity was formed to include the gentiles. JW's have the same mentality as the jews thinking they belong to some exclusive club that they and only they will go to heaven regardless how you live. Islam..same way. Yet all three abraham cults plus JW's worship the same god. God's "Chosen" people..if that's not rejection i don't know what is. |
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markumX Joined Wed 06/03/09 Posts: 667 |
Spider where do you get your information from? I suspect you either ignore the facts or choose not to acknowledge them. If you would like to point out what i've said wasn't true i would love to see it. My major was theology and i base my information on what has been found. There have been 21 Christ like saviors all with similar stories chock full of virgin births, promise of salvation, death, resurrection, and ascending to heaven. If you choose to believe that the story of Jesus is original, than you're clearly misinformed.
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markumX Joined Wed 06/03/09 Posts: 667 |
whether the jesus story happened or not..i'm leaning toward NOT because it's an exact rip off of baal and krishna..no intelligent christian can deny the NT lies concerning his death. One says he died before passover, another during, another after yet all three claim Jesus was dead for three days before he arose sunday morning. This in itself can't possibly be true. The Jewish sabbath is on saturday, Jesus was allegedly nailed on a friday afternoon and laid to rest before sundown. let's also note the sun was supposedly eclipsed at this time yet no documents in Roman history can confirm this and at this time the romans and the greeks documented all occurances of these kind because they were obsessed with the Sun.
So with these facts, Jesus was only in the grave less than a day and a half. This difference is not a difference in interpretation as most christians will spin as to the differences in details. There's a big difference in..3 days..or 1.5 days. Let's not forget in the book of ACTS it says that Jesus was the first and only man to defy death and be resurrected. Another lie..did they forget about Lazurus? Not to mention the saints supposedly brought back to life when he returned from his amazing adventure in hell and then flew back into space. |