OMG, I'm squeamish you know, I'm sorry I read that now, but thanks for the in depth report lmao

I wonder what they do with the off cuts.
Who knows in this day and age

Sooo.. where would that leave you sexually frustrated then..

. and yes perhaps a whole different topic.. would make for a good topic.. hint hint..

I agree with you, people shouldn't assume a sexual act that they (or most) do not partake in is unhealthy. I think the only thing unhealthy about ANY sexual acts would be if set limits were not being respected, which essentially would be abuse.

Now concerning the quote above. What makes consensual whipping, fisting or nipple play healthier than consensual watersports, scat etc... if they all bring the same kind of pleasure to the people who practice them?

I would worry about the safe word becoming confusing, especially if she was Chinese

Are certain aspects of it unhealthy? Absolutely. Asphyxiation, water sports, scat, inability to draw a line between bedroom activities and non bedroom activities, in my view, is taking it to an unhealthy extreme.

Hot damn ticketey boo.

Hot damn ticketey boo.

Mr Joethebricky would like to recall his last post in this topic

Well ok, give me 50 lashes, but don't walk on me in those heels

I think any kind of sex is overrated anyway.

You make no sense.

Is assisted suicide always wrong?
Aging patient, in pain, Asks Doctor to end their life because they don't want to suffer any longer. The patient CONSENTS that they want the Doctor(Trusted Figure) to end their life, and he CONSENTS to doing the procedure. Some states may argue on the legality or it, others on the morals, some based on religious views, but when it comes down to it, it is a consenting act between doctor and patient.

Things aren't always black and white.

Is it wrong to shoot a person in the head? your first answer is probably YES!,

But now what if this person was holding a gun and firing into a crowded theater is it wrong to shoot him then? Your answer is probably NO!

You can't always look at a action and judge it as "right" or "wrong" without first knowing the circumstances. in which these actions took place.

If you judge BDSM strictly by the action, and not on the circumstances I can (almost) get to decision that you've come to, what you see is a "sub" getting "hurt" and wonder, how can they allow that?!?!? but there is more going on, and you'd have to understand the circumstances and nature which is it's not that they are "allowing" anything it's more that they are "asking" for something.

But as will all moral/ethics there has to be some sort of ruler, to measure against...generally that rules is what "society" dictates is "acceptable"..

Using your own logic, I could apply and older-sense of morals and say that any woman who has sex in the doggie position is being abused. I could state that putting a woman in that position is abuse, because it treats her as an animal, and any woman who allows that is consenting to be emotionally abused and that doggy position should be made illegal for such reasons.

Now that knowing that the doggy position isn't illegal, but could it be? I'd argue yes...when it is done AGAINST someones will....OR when it goes too far...i.e locking a woman up, treating her like a dog 24/7, and taking away any human rights...that's abuse.

Now back to BDSM, is it rape?...legally no..it's consenting therefore it cannot be.

Can it become abuse? When it is taken too far, and human rights are violated yes.

Could it be construed as domestic violence? possibly, if it is taken too far, and/or without consent of one or both parties, circumstances would have to be looked it.


Bottom line: Is BDSM wrong? When it is done with respect for each other, and between two trusting adults I don't believe so.

Could BDSM be bad? Yes...when the mutual respect/trust is gone between parties yes it could end very badly