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The right wing crazies want to dismiss the Occupiers the same as they want to dismiss the poor and middle class of this country as unmotivated and lazy.
Showing, of course, that they have never experienced being poor nor being in a life situation that caused them to have to ask for help. I would never wish it on them but they obviously cannot and will not understand what it is like to be the 98 percent. Showing how they need to not be put in power in this country since they do not and cannot relate to the majority. |
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I'm so tired
QUOTE: A woman's life is at stake with a tubal pregnancy and that is not covered by health insurance because it is "a pregnancy." But a man can't get a hard on.... and BOY IS THAT A MAJOR FEAKING CRISIS. Give me a break.
To hear some man tell we are just second rate huh? A semen depository and once deposited it is our responsibility what happens from it. They have been taught that women are the control of their penises and it is our fault what happens from it getting hard as that is our fault too, Those are the ones who are the problems in our society today. |
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In answer to your title of the thread, no he probably wasn't against abortion since it did exist in his day
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I would say that men have been irresponsibly assigning women the responsibility of bringing children in the world or not for a long time.
So they did not even consider what they may be doing to stop that unwanted reminder of them from coming in to fruition
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AH but Wux it may not have existed in the men's minds back then but women on the other hand have been using herbs to abort pregnancies for as far back as women have been able to know of herbs.
I believe the Chinese have the oldest known mixture that was used. This is not the whole article but enough to let you know what I am speaking of. http://womenshistory.about.com/od/abortion/a/ancientabortion.htm Abortion in the Ancient and Premodern World A History of Traditional Methods From Pat Fox, See More About: abortion history reproductive rights ancient history While modern technology is quite new in historical terms, the practice of abortion and menstrual "regulation" is ancient. Traditional methods have been handed down for hundreds of generations and herbal and other methods have roots in the distant past. It should be noted that many ancient and medieval methods and preparations are extremely risky and many are not at all effective, so experimentation is quite unwise. We know abortion was practiced in biblical times from the passage in Numbers (note 1) where alleged infidelity is tested by giving an abortifacient potion to an accused pregnant woman. The "bitter water" used to "bring on the curse" may have been quinine or several of other herbal and natural concoctions that are considered emmagogues, or drugs that bring on menstruation. Such herbs and other concoctions are in reality often implantation inhibitors or abortifacients. According to the biblical tale, if the woman had not been unfaithful, the drug would not work and the pregnancy was assumed to be the husband’s child. If she miscarried, she was considered guilty of adultery and no questionable parentage ensued. Abortion was recorded in 1550 B.C.E. in Egypt, recorded in what is called the Ebers Papyrus (note 2) and in ancient China about 500 B.C.E. as well (note 3). In China, folklore dates the use of mercury to induce abortions to about 5,000 years ago (note 4). Of course, mercury is extremely toxic. Hippocrates also offered abortion to his patients despite being opposed to pessaries and potions which he considered too dangerous. He is recorded as having instructed a prostitute to induce abortion by jumping up and down. This is certainly safer than some other methods, but rather ineffective. It is also believed that he used dilation and curettage to induce abortions as well (note 5). Abortion opponents often use the Hippocratic Oath of physicians as an argument against abortion per se, but the opposition had only to do with patient safety. Herbal methods were likely more common and many of the traditional herbs and mixtures are in use even today. Pennyroyal dates at least to the 1200’s when manuscripts show herbalists preparing it (note 6), but the oil is extremely dangerous and modern herbalists avoid it. Deaths from its use were recorded in the US in the 1990's. A medieval herbal reference called De Viribus Herbarum referred to herbs to induce abortions even earlier in the 11th century. Pennyroyal was among the herbs mentioned but so were catnip, rue. Sage, savory, cypress, and hellebore (note 6). Some of the drugs are listed as emmagogues rather that explicitly as abortifacents, but since the most common cause of a late menstrual period is pregnancy, there is little doubt why they were prescribed and used. Hildegard of Bingen mentions the use of tansy to bring on menstruation. Some herbs have been mentioned for centuries. One is a plant called the worm fern whose root is used to cause an abortion. It is telling that it was also known as "prostitute’s root" historically. Also used in the same area of Europe were thyme, parsley, lavender, and savin juniper. Even concoctions of camel saliva and deer hair were used (note 7). The right of women to seek abortions was not restricted in many places until fairly recently, with most restrictions being related to the time of "quickening" or fetal movement. Even Plato proclaimed the right of women to seek early terminations of pregnancies in "Theaetetus", but specifically he spoke of the right of midwives to offer the procedure. In early times, most pregnancies were not managed by doctors so it was logical that abortion be provided by midwives and herbalists. Other measures to induce abortions have included iron sulfates and chlorides, hyssop, dittany, opium, madder in beer, watercress seeds and even crushed ants. Probably the herbs most commonly mentioned were tansy and pennyroyal. We know that tansy was used from at least the Middle Ages. One of the most brutal methods was practiced in the Orient in ancient times by violently kneading or beating the abdomen to cause abortion, a procedure with great peril to the woman who used it. Even in the 20th century, women were still trying Hippocrates’ jumping up and down method, likely with as little success as their ancient sisters (note 8). Wise women have found and used herbs and other preparations to manage their fertility for generations. Some concoctions were contraceptive in nature and others were abortifacients or designated emmagogues. The latter are now believed to have worked to prevent implantation, a sort of ancient morning after pill. What we know for sure is that in the past as well as now women have found ways to manage unwanted pregnancies. It should be noted that many ancient and medieval methods and preparations are extremely risky and many are not at all effective, so experimentation is quite unwise. There are modern practitioners who do know the folk remedies that are both effective and safe and should be relied upon before even considering such methods. Of course, modern women also have the more familiar medical procedures to choose instead of ancient remedies. Previous 1 2 Next |
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QUOTE: Somebody put in another thread the notion that God never gets comforted by prayer. We keep asking favours from him, but we never extend unconditional, giving prayers to him. So then this guy offered God to cry on his shoulder, to weep, and let the tears come out freely, but not to cauase another Great Flood, please. Which reminded me of a once oft-used expression, "cry me a river, Liberal!", and that prompted the question: is God Liberal, or Conservative? is there a difference between his apparent political views when we look at the two testaments separately? (We're obviously talking Christian God, as America is a Christian nation, declared by the Great Crusader George Bush.) If God ran in the present presidential election heading the Party which you NEVER vote for... would that sway your vote? Would you then cross the floor? When you give an answer, please support your opinion. For this exercise we must ask the atheists and agnostics that for the duration of posting things on this topic, they assume there is a god and form their answers as if they accepted that truth, if only for the time that they consider and answer this topic. Going on the Christian version of what god would be if he/she/it existed, god would be liberal. The rich can't reach the kingdom of heaven per the bible nor can any human who condones killing of other humans. Jesus was a great supporter of helping the poor and downtrodden which would make him liberal. Even criminals were forgiven in Jesus' eyes making him liberal. |
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QUOTE: Driving while high on pot nearly doubles the chance of getting into a crash, say researchers from Halifax's Dalhousie University. The authors of the paper, which is published in the online edition of the British Medical Journal, reviewed nine previous studies involving 49,411 people. They say previous research didn't take into account the consumption of alcohol or other drugs, and so didn't provide a clear picture of the effect of smoking marijuana alone. One such study published in October, the Cross Canada Report on Student Alcohol and Drug Use, reported that more Canadian teens than ever before are drinking and smoking pot and then getting behind the wheel, often within an hour of indulging. The Dalhousie researchers, isolating marijuana consumption, found that drivers who smoke within three hours of driving are nearly twice as likely to cause a crash. The risk is even higher for those aged 35 and under. More than 10% of adults in Canada and about a third of young people 16-25 report using pot in the past year, according to the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health in Toronto. -------------------------------------------------------------------- My comments: Since alcohol is a factor they can not say that it is the pot that causes this effect. If doing a study on a substance you can not toss in another substance and judge the results of the 1st. Alcohol is well known to cause adverse affect, so they can not say that it is the pot, the could say pot and alcohol cause this effect but that is not what they are saying. The are saying that you could not properly judge the effects of pot with out the addition of alcohol. QUOTE: They say previous research didn't take into account the consumption of alcohol or other drugs, and so didn't provide a clear picture of the effect of smoking marijuana alone.
I could see testing drinkers against smokers but not mixing the 2 together for the testing, as then the affect of the alcohol could give false results. That said i have driven with a lot of smokers and not once had any fears, I have been afraid many times getting in car's with drunks. It is good that they are finally getting data on weed smoking and driving. It has been needed for a long time and using the data that had both alcohol and weed can't be accurate. So it is good that they are starting to get the data of weed alone now. |
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Again it would suck to be with a man who believes what the OP has spouted off.
So I do feel sorry for those women. If a man doesn't want a child he best be doing something to stop it from happening. |
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QUOTE: QUOTE: I don't think so. Actually if Romney get's the nomination the maybe Obama will win. If Pau gets the nomination(Which will NEVER happen) Obama would definately win. If Santorum gets the nomination Obama is done and if Gingrich gets the nomination I think Obama would be done too. His approval rating is to low when he is running for re-election. No sitting President has EVER won re-election with approval ratings as low as Obama has now. So in your opinion the best contest for America is Obama versus Santorum? I will still be putting my money on Obama. America needs Obama for a second Term With the lunatic fringe options people have to choose from they will choose Obama even if they are not exactly happy with him. He is still the best choice. |
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QUOTE: President Obama has found someone new to blame for his failures: the Founding Fathers - those brave men who fought a war to free America from Great Britain, and establish a republic based on a constitution that is still the envy of the world. In a video posted Monday at Townhall, Obama told Matt Lauer that people are frustrated because he has not been able to "force Congress to implement every aspect of" his radical agenda. "Our Founders designed a system that makes it more difficult to bring about change than I would like sometimes,” he said. But he promised to keep "plodding away, very persistent." "And, you know what? One of the things about being President is you get better as time goes on," he added. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/02/good-grief-obama-blames-the-founding-fathers-for-his-failures-video/ Barry needs to learn to take responsibility and not play the blame game. With this clown everything is everyone else's fault. Hell, I even heard that Barry was so livid at his staff members after the Haiti earthquake that he almost fired the all. The reason he was so mad is they couldn't come up with a way to blame it on President Bush.
He said "And, you know what? One of the things about being President is you get better as time goes on," how come he hasn't gotten any better?
You will waste your time on this one. The title of the thread is fraudulent and the read is a waste of time.
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Japan Airlines' CEO pays himself less than the pilots, takes the bus to work
By Cory Doctorow at 3:21 am Friday, Feb 25 When Japan Airlines hit hard times in 2009 and began to lay off its staff, JAL CEO Haruka Nishimatsu cut his own pay to less than that of his pilots and eliminated all his perks. He now rides public transit to the office and eats in the employee cafeteria, standing in line with his colleagues. Japan Airline Boss Sets Exec Example (via Reddit) http://boingboing.net/2011/02/25/japan-airlines-ceo-p.html All the while American CEOs take government handouts to give themselves huge bonus'. What is wrong with that picture? |
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Email....
I am learning.
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I'm so tired
QUOTE: of the federal government telling us what we can and can't do, what we should eat and not eat, it's none of their business. If women want free contraception then they can keep their legs shut. Simple as that. Or we could legalize neutering men who won't control themselves (you know those ones who think women are the control of their penises, causing unwanted children, causing abortions to have to happen )so women won't have to worry about contraception. I think that would be a better idea.
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http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/04/fourth-amendment-email-2/
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http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/how_police_get_your_phone_records
This has that information and some other. |
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QUOTE: QUOTE: Will Mitt Romney legalize polygamy if he becomes president? Since the president does not pass laws -- no, he will not. High school civics: Congress makes the laws. Yea veto but I don't think it will be a national decision made by congress. I think this one will be decided by the Supreme court like most discrimination laws have been. |
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QUOTE: Utah has decided to legalize polygamy for all its citizens. Utah lawmakers have decided to move forward with a bill that would legalize polygamy. Current Utah Law (Article3) states that ”polygamous or plural marriages are forever prohibited.” But according to Article 3, you can hold whatever religious beliefs you want. Utah will never prosecute you for your religious beliefs. However being a polygamist and acting upon your beliefs is completely out of the question. That’s been the conundrum for Utah lawmakers… until now. “We have to change the laws to match the beliefs of our citizens and a man having more than one wife, just makes sense!”, said UtahSpeaker of the house, Blake Smith (D). Over the years, authorities have looked the other way with regard to polygamous behavior and have instead focused on any abuse of children, kidnapping or any other domestic abuse. Under current Utah Law bigamy is a felony of thethird degree. [image] The news of the new Utah bill coincides with TLC airing its new realityshow, Sister Wives, about a man with three wives – and soon a fourth – and his 12 kids..The man, Kody Brown. says, “polygamy is just another word for paradise.” The husband is happy. The wives are happy. The children are polite and helpful. “It’s perfect, it’s heaven,” said Brown. “Variety is the spice of life and… I am enjoying my life.” Advertising salesman Brown lives somewhere in Utah with Meri, his wife of 20 years, Janelle, his wife of 17 years, and Christine, his wife of 16 years. “I like marriage, and I’m a repeat offender,” he says. He identifies himself as Mormon, though he is not a member of the mainstream faith that has banned “the lifestyle,” he notes. “Thelifestyle.” You’ll hear thatexpression tossed around a lot in the one-hour premiere. The wives are the biggest advocates, arguing it guarantees security to their children.If one of them were to die, the other wives would step in to raise the kids. The extended clan lives in a large house that is subdivided into separate but adjoining apartments for each of the wives and their children. “Look, it’s better for women to share one stable, solid, good man than to be with a no-good man who can’t even support himself. It’s the way the world is supposed to work. Women want men with money, power and status and men want variety and beauty. Polygamy is the natural way for human beings to mate, have a family,” said Monica Creighton, another polygamist in Utah. They expect a large influx of new residents. As long as they are all of age and mental consent let them marry each other. It is not my place to tell others who they can love and marry as long as they are of age and mental consent. |
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Did you know that in the US, once your email becomes 181 days old that law enforcement doesn't need a warrant to read/use it?
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QUOTE: QUOTE: Well, considering no cop should be able to "in his own opinion" suspect anyone on sight of being an alien because it is racial/skin color profiling and is discrimination, it shouldn't be too hard to determine it is wrong. Everyone who comes in contact with the police in the negative light should have their citizenship checked. But that is not what the law originally said. If you can prove your citizenship each time they stop you then of course everyone should do it all the time. Do birth certificates prove that? So make sure you carry it. And the original copy from the vital statistics office too just like the pres had to have. |
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