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Sun 07/01/18 04:25 AM
Being ignorant doesn't make them stupid.

They know which ones they can beat and get away with it, and they know which ones to keep their hands off.

Occasionally, they do slip up. Like this one: (Bet you supported him too)

https://www.cnn.com/2016/01/21/us/oklahoma-city-officer-daniel-holtzclaw-rape-sentencing/index.html

Oklahoma City cop convicted of rape sentenced to 263 years in prison

Daniel Holtzclaw, the ex-Oklahoma City officer convicted of rape and other charges after he preyed on African-American women over six months, was sentenced Thursday to 263 years in prison, as recommended by the jury, according to his attorney. The sentence comes just over a month after a sobbing Holtzclaw was convicted on 18 of 36 counts, including four counts of first-degree rape and four counts of forced oral sodomy.

Prosecutors said Holtzclaw selected victims in one of Oklahoma City's poorest neighborhoods based on their criminal histories, assuming their drug or prostitution records would undermine any claims they might make against him.

Then, he would subject them to assaults that escalated from groping to oral sodomy and rape, according to the testimony of 13 victims. Holtzclaw, whose father is a police lieutenant on another force, waived his right to testify. Two of those women shared their stories with CNN on Wednesday, recounting horrific memories of being forced to perform sexual acts by a serial rapist with a badge who was supposed to protect and serve.

Jury wants 263 years

Because the victims are black, race has been regularly invoked in the case. His trial began in November and was criticized by activists after an all-white jury was chosen. Protesters repeatedly gathered outside.

Holtzclaw, whose father is white and mother is Japanese, is identified as "Asian or Pacific Islander" by court records.
Attorney Benjamin Crump, who represented the families of Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown, has criticized the media, asking, "Where is the national outcry for their justice?" Crump praised the sentence Thursday saying it was "a landmark victory."

"All the women were victims, from the 17-year old teenager to the 57-year old grandmother. This is a statement for 400 years of racism, oppression and sexual assault of black women; a statement of victory not only for the 'OKC 13,' but for so many unknown women," Crump said in a statement.

On Wednesday, Holtzclaw's lawyers asked for a new trial, alleging prosecutors did not disclose newly discovered evidence -- including DNA evidence and the accounts of accusers who falsely claimed to be victims -- to the defense, according to CNN affiliate KFOR. Court documents posted on the station's website say a detective referenced the evidence in a Facebook post. The judge denied the motion for a new trial.

The defense team filed for an appeal in court on Thursday, and it was denied, Crump said. They plan to appeal again, he said, but he was not sure what arguments they will use. Holtzclaw's attorneys aren't the only ones declaring his innocence, despite the verdict. His sister also runs a blog dedicated to telling her brother's "untold story."

Victims' stories
One of Holtzclaw's victims, Jannie Ligons, grandmother of 12, was among those who spoke at the sentencing on Thursday. In an interview with CNN this week, she recalled driving down Lincoln Street when Holtzclaw pulled her over and told her she was swerving, "which was untrue," she said. He told her to get out of the car.

"He put a flashlight on my chest. He told me to pull my pants down to my knees. I did that but real quick and pulled them back up again. He pulled out his flashlight and shined it on my privates. I said. 'Sir, you not supposed to do this.' He said, 'Get back into my vehicle.' I did what he said. I began to get very, very scared," Ligons said.
She remembers him telling her, "Damn, you got a big ***."

"I thought he was going to kill me because I had seen his face and could tell on him and he was an officer and had to know he wasn't supposed to do this," she said.

That's when Holtzclaw ordered her to perform oral sex, she said. Her mind racing and tears gushing from her then-57-year-old eyes, she was both disgusted and terrified. "I tried to perform oral sex," she said. "And trying to talk, I kept saying, 'Sir, please don't make me do this.' I said, 'Are you gonna shoot me?' He said, 'I promise I am not. ' I didn't believe him. I kept seeing his gun while he was making me do this right there on the street. I was sitting in the passenger side of the car and he was standing there. It was so horrifying. It was unreal. I cried and cried," Ligons said.
Finally, he let her go, and "I decided right then If he didn't kill me I was going to tell on him," she said.

Rape in a hospital bed
She picked up her daughter and went to the police station. Investigators interviewed her and sent her to the hospital. She soon learned she was the last in a string of sexual assaults and rapes committed by Holtzclaw.

"The detective I talked to in the hospital came in and she believed me. While she was writing the report she said, 'I got a good idea who it was,' " Ligons said. "I was relieved at first, but then I wondered why he was still on the street if they knew who it was."

Ligons told reporters after the verdict was announced last month that she had to enter therapy and later "had a stroke behind this."

Another victim, 24-year-old Shandegreon "Sade" Hill, told CNN she was intoxicated the night Holtzclaw arrested her. He promised to get her prior charges dropped, but while she was handcuffed to the hospital bed trying to detox, he raped her, she said.

"He started to touch me. He touched my breast. From there, I just didn't know what to think. I am in his custody because whatever he tells me in my mind I just did it. As far as I know I could wind up dead in the hospital saying I was overdosed," Hill said. "He violated me. And made me give him oral. He stuck his hands into my privates. He done everything against my will, " she told CNN, her voice shaking and angry.

Holtzclaw continued to pursue her, even following her to her home and stalking her on social media, she said. These are just two of the stories from the 13 victims, one of whom was 17 at the time and testified she was raped on her mother's front porch.

Cops can do no wrong... Right?

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Sun 07/01/18 04:12 AM
Started the Saw series last night.

Watched 1,2,3,and 4. I'll watch the rest after church.

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Sun 07/01/18 03:41 AM
Edited by Viper1j on Sun 07/01/18 03:41 AM
Has nothing to with a cop shooting a hoodrat
that was committing a felony.

Way out on a limb for tangents. laugh


Felony riding in a car? That's a capital offense?

Really?


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Sat 06/30/18 06:38 PM
Edited by Viper1j on Sat 06/30/18 06:41 PM

Frozen


That's a cute one.. My daughters loved it.

Wait..

Which "Frozen"?

This one?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2294629/

Or this one?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1323045/?ref_=nv_sr_4

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Sat 06/30/18 06:34 PM
The United States has the best justice system that money can buy.

Only thing is, that b@tch is broke!

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Sat 06/30/18 06:28 PM


My sister, brother, Both parents, grandparents and one of my friends all black all driven in the states and has never been stopped , no my brother was stopped in Florida picking up my grandparents once and that was because his tail light was cracked.

I can only go by my experience and those close to me experiences.



I can go by what the history and my knowledge of the human condition is ... and by the stories I have and others share with me ...


If George Holliday hadn't been playing with his birthday present, Rodney King would have been just "another n****r claiming to have been beaten by the police.

Sad thing is, today people don't even believe their own eyes. Video is useless.

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Sat 06/30/18 06:23 PM
Edited by Viper1j on Sat 06/30/18 06:24 PM

why do they keeping calling them immigrants, they are illegals

I hate the politically correct term "undocumented Immigrants"
no, they are illegal aliens.

You enter into a country illegally you are breaking the law.

why is it so hard for Democrats and the left to understand?



There are people here that would protest Superman getting a green card if he were a real person. rofl

"As soon as you let d@mn Kryptonians in, next thing you know, we're gonna be up to our ears in Martians"!

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Sat 06/30/18 05:08 PM
Edited by Viper1j on Sat 06/30/18 05:09 PM
Which might explain why said cop was too cowardly to do it face to face.

Also might be a reason why he's now facing murder 1 charges.

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Sat 06/30/18 04:19 PM
Edited by Viper1j on Sat 06/30/18 04:21 PM

viper is a typical lib. Gripes about everything-fixes nothing. The first rule of being a dem.


You want a fix? Get in touch with your inner Nazi and just place snipers at the border.

Anybody approaching gets a bullet between the eyes.

You feel better now?


The 0bamas stirred a deep hatred for police that's for sure.


Yeah, cops shooting people in the back, had absolutely nothing to do with it.

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Sat 06/30/18 12:16 PM
Edited by Viper1j on Sat 06/30/18 12:17 PM


When you get pulled over by a black cop for DWW (Driving While White), it will become "all about race" for you as well.

You know, it's that whole "shoe on the other foot" kind of thing.


I have been pulled over about 10 times in 20 years, mostly for speeding or some small infraction. a few times I had no idea what I did wrong ( expired inspection stickers, tail light out ect)

The colors of the cops were both black and white. I never thought.. not once.... that the black cop was being racist by pulling me over and what do you call it when a white cop pulls over a white person???????????

My first reaction was to try to talk my way of the ticket, if that didn't work.. I took the ticket without incident and I was polite.. pissed that I got a ticket.. but polite. why? because I was WRONG and got caught.. has nothing to do with color.


Ya think?

Did said cop ever ask you "Where are you going"? Or "Where are you coming from?" Or "Who do you know in this neighborhood?"

If not, then congratulations!

You're one of the "chosen people".

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Sat 06/30/18 12:12 PM
I'm shocked!

From your previous posts, I had the distinct impression that you kneel at his altar as well.

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Sat 06/30/18 11:52 AM
Edited by Viper1j on Sat 06/30/18 11:54 AM


There are no "Republicans" anymore.

Even former Republican say that it's now the Democrats versus the Trump party.

Why do you think so many former Republicans have said they're not running anymore? Why do you think so many ambassadors have quit? They used to be Republicans, and they want nothing to do with the Trump party.


There will always be a Republican party as there are different factions of the party, you know moderates, centralist etc, any of this ring familiar?

Just like the Democrat party has different factions, the left wing socialist democrats the Bernie Sanders and that woman that won in New York a few days ago, you have the Centralist like the Hillary Clinton

and the greedy section of Nancy Pelosi, Diane fienstein , barbara boxer , the rich elitists of the Democrat party


Ever see a movie called "The Blob"?

There are actually two versions of it, the first is a 1958 version starring Steve McQueen. But that's not the point.

The Trump Party IS The Blob. It has absorbed all the varied factions of what used to be the Republican Party. Now, they march in lockstep like the German Waffen SS.

There are no more Republicans. The King is dead, long live the King.

That's why they let Donnie get away with whatever he wants.

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Sat 06/30/18 10:05 AM
It's no skin off anybody's nose... I mean, it's not like the kid would be "Brown" or something.

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Sat 06/30/18 10:00 AM
Edited by Viper1j on Sat 06/30/18 10:03 AM


I pay US taxes, on all three levels, federal, state, and real estate.

You don't. It's my tax dollars supporting that dead bikers kid, not yours.


congratulations , that and 8 dollars will get you a frappacino at Starbucks.

And how is Your tax dollars supporting that dead bikers kid?


If mom is declared "fit" then she'll get SSI survivors benefits for the dead biker, and food stamps and housing.

If mom is declared "unfit" then the kid gets snatched, and goes into the foster care system.

Either way, the kid is supported with tax dollars.

PS: I don't pay for anything at Starbucks.

Corporate is one of my clients, the only time I'm in a Starbucks, is when I'm working, and then everything is free for me.:smile:

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Sat 06/30/18 09:34 AM
I pay US taxes, on all three levels, federal, state, and real estate.

You don't. It's my tax dollars supporting that dead bikers kid, not yours.

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Sat 06/30/18 09:32 AM
There are no "Republicans" anymore.

Even former Republican say that it's now the Democrats versus the Trump party.

Why do you think so many former Republicans have said they're not running anymore? Why do you think so many ambassadors have quit? They used to be Republicans, and they want nothing to do with the Trump party.

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Sat 06/30/18 08:46 AM
Only because you don't have to pay.

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Sat 06/30/18 08:43 AM
It's on a par with the "very fine people... On both sides" statement.

But you didn't address paying for the dead bikers babies to grow up.

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Sat 06/30/18 08:34 AM
Edited by Viper1j on Sat 06/30/18 08:35 AM
They will eventually.

After all, if all Mexican babies are going to grow up to be rapists, that would mean that all Hells Angels babies will grow up to be killers.

Might as well kill them first.

And as I stated above, it is the Italian way.

Besides, nobody here wants to support some dead bikers kid with their tax dollars.

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Sat 06/30/18 08:31 AM
Edited by Viper1j on Sat 06/30/18 08:31 AM




IF he does get a pardon, your response will be??

"Sorry, my bad"?


You're living in a dream world. The shooter can't get bail. Yet you firmly believe Counterfit Nutworks News.

Obviously, you still believe in the Easter bunny, the tooth fairy, And Santa Claus.


Paul Manafort can't get bail..

Donny is still considering a pardon for him.

So?
I doubt a conservative will pardon a murderer since they believe in rule of law. You are confusing the two parties again. Liberals are law abiders only if the law agrees with what stance they are taking at that particular time. It was Clinton and Obama that pardoned some pretty ruthless people. And I'm counting the 5 terrorists guilty of killing many Americans that Obama real eased from Guantanamo bay.


And you're confusing Donald Trump with a normal "conservative".

The only thing he believes in, is himself. This is a person that said he had "an absolute right to pardon himself". He uses lawbooks for toilet paper.

And right now, the one thing no one can reverse is his right to pardon anyone he chooses.

If he gave the shooter a pardon, I would be disgusted, but not surprised in the least.

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