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brandons09 Joined Sat 12/15/12 Posts: 3	Fri 12/21/12 10:03 PM Topic: We need to ban cars! This is tragic!
If people weren't allowed to buy these death machines things like this wouldn't happen! http://news.yahoo.com/1-dead-least-30-hurt-ny-traffic-pileup-230650492.html there is a difference between 'accidents' and homicide,,, apples and oranges And there has never been a vehicular homicide? Seems there are many cases where people have used their cars as weapons, drove them into crowds. Seems Tim McVey used a truck in his bombing escapade, and cartels use machine guns mounted on cars. Maybe Obozo will marry your apples and oranges together or exec order a new mandate allowing for them to join. You wanna blame guns that have no mind of their own, but not cars that are used for the same purpose. That's lib thinking for ya! Anyone who drinks and gets behind the wheel of a car is no better than any kid with a semi-auto. There's your apples and oranges....in a nice pulpy mash! never? no that is an other extreme that blurs the conversation no law has ever eliminated any action,,,,thats not its intent but when comparing vehicles, please do compare mass killings with mass killings accidents with accidents and homicides with homicides instead of comparing vehicle deaths, which are mostly accidental while people are using their vehicle for its MANUFACTURED and harmless purpose with gun homicides, which are INTENTIONAL by people using the gun as it was intended and manufactured to be used,,, and the mode of transportation one uses has nothing to do with homicide,,shoes were made to walk in, but the shoe someone wears when they stalk and kill someone has nothing to do with it being a homicide or with that person being dead,,, Texting, talking on your phone, putting on makeup, not being mindful of other drivers, or drinking when driving and causing an "accident" should be criminal intent as much as any object that can be used to exact harm on another. Many of the activities you mentioned are illegal in a number of areas. Whether someone says that all guns should be outlawed or all guns should be legal, they're probably wrong. Just like any issue, if you suggest that one extreme or the other is the 'right' or 'only' way then you're probably not a rational person. It seems that most people without an agenda feel that there isn't a need for certain types of firearms. No member of the general public really needs an automatic weapon. I'm not sure if they're legal to hunt with and, even if they are, that doesn't mean you can't use a far less dangerous weapon. 'Gun Control' does not mean the elimination of guns. Furthermore, you keep bringing up other activities seemingly to suggest that, because they're legal, that all guns should be as well. There are a great many restrictions on the production, sale and consumption of alcohol. Just as there should be for any product available to consumers. Especially those that are potentially harmful. Also, you talk about how this country was built with the aid of guns. It was also built with the aid of slavery and horrendous treatment of the Native Americans. Just because those things played a role doesn't mean they should be celebrated or available without proper oversight. Anyways, enjoy Fox News and have fun twisting this into whatever way best fits your argument. Faux Noise You go there to see what's happening and laugh at their spin, then elsewhere for the truth to the story. The 2nd amendment was put in place to defend the citizens right to bear arms should the need ever come to oppose gov't tyranny! In that context, every citizen has the right to own and bear any weapon the gov't or its forces may have. They do work for us you know, not the other way around as they would have you to believe! Our rights are more constitutionally protected than their limited ones! They are doing their best to change that balance, remove our rights and restrict our liberties....DAILY! Killing women and children, bombing nations we are not at war with, even killing and indefinately detaining US citizens without representation or trial.... NOT the acts of a very responsible person or persons! But they have these weapons! They also supply them to Mexican drug cartels, terrorists, and foreign dictators (who we later end up facing our own weapons to oust when they quit going along with them) but we can't own them? They take away our rights to possess these weapons and what is to keep them from targeting us next (which is already in place with drones and cameras watching our every move, body scanners, RFID tags in all we buy or possess, trackers in our phones, cars, and ID/bank cards, warrantless searches and arrest!) Watch the movies "1984", "THX 1138", "Minority Report" and any number of others....we're there! It's not about hunting or sport, though either are as good a reason as another, but about defending ourselves from tyranny and oppression! Under the Patriot Act they have declared the US a battlefield....how many foreign troops have you seen on our soil (that they haven't invited)? Why are they using those troops and our civilians and cities to train them in "crowd control"? Why does FEMA need billions of rounds of hollow point ammo? They can't even get food, water, shelter or gasoline to troubled areas after a disaster! We are at war, but our enemy is not who they would have us believe it is! Do you have actual facts to back up any of your claims? Putting an exclamation point behind someone or using a Tom Cruise movie as an example doesn't make something a fact.

brandons09 Joined Sat 12/15/12 Posts: 3	Thu 12/20/12 08:37 PM Topic: We need to ban cars! This is tragic!
If people weren't allowed to buy these death machines things like this wouldn't happen! http://news.yahoo.com/1-dead-least-30-hurt-ny-traffic-pileup-230650492.html there is a difference between 'accidents' and homicide,,, apples and oranges And there has never been a vehicular homicide? Seems there are many cases where people have used their cars as weapons, drove them into crowds. Seems Tim McVey used a truck in his bombing escapade, and cartels use machine guns mounted on cars. Maybe Obozo will marry your apples and oranges together or exec order a new mandate allowing for them to join. You wanna blame guns that have no mind of their own, but not cars that are used for the same purpose. That's lib thinking for ya! Anyone who drinks and gets behind the wheel of a car is no better than any kid with a semi-auto. There's your apples and oranges....in a nice pulpy mash! never? no that is an other extreme that blurs the conversation no law has ever eliminated any action,,,,thats not its intent but when comparing vehicles, please do compare mass killings with mass killings accidents with accidents and homicides with homicides instead of comparing vehicle deaths, which are mostly accidental while people are using their vehicle for its MANUFACTURED and harmless purpose with gun homicides, which are INTENTIONAL by people using the gun as it was intended and manufactured to be used,,, and the mode of transportation one uses has nothing to do with homicide,,shoes were made to walk in, but the shoe someone wears when they stalk and kill someone has nothing to do with it being a homicide or with that person being dead,,, Texting, talking on your phone, putting on makeup, not being mindful of other drivers, or drinking when driving and causing an "accident" should be criminal intent as much as any object that can be used to exact harm on another. Many of the activities you mentioned are illegal in a number of areas. Whether someone says that all guns should be outlawed or all guns should be legal, they're probably wrong. Just like any issue, if you suggest that one extreme or the other is the 'right' or 'only' way then you're probably not a rational person. It seems that most people without an agenda feel that there isn't a need for certain types of firearms. No member of the general public really needs an automatic weapon. I'm not sure if they're legal to hunt with and, even if they are, that doesn't mean you can't use a far less dangerous weapon. 'Gun Control' does not mean the elimination of guns. Furthermore, you keep bringing up other activities seemingly to suggest that, because they're legal, that all guns should be as well. There are a great many restrictions on the production, sale and consumption of alcohol. Just as there should be for any product available to consumers. Especially those that are potentially harmful. Also, you talk about how this country was built with the aid of guns. It was also built with the aid of slavery and horrendous treatment of the Native Americans. Just because those things played a role doesn't mean they should be celebrated or available without proper oversight. Anyways, enjoy Fox News and have fun twisting this into whatever way best fits your argument.

brandons09 Joined Sat 12/15/12 Posts: 3	Wed 12/19/12 06:33 PM Topic: We need to ban cars! This is tragic!
How many more people would die if we didn't have ambulances to rush them to hospitals? Or trucks to get medical equipment and supplies to where they're needed? How many peoples' livelihoods would be ruined by the impending job losses from cars no longer being produced and maintained? How many people would get sick/hurt by more rigorous forms of travel? That's terrible that a person died and many were hurt but what you're suggesting would cause far more problems.