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Tue 08/24/21 08:33 AM
I've been in several successful poly relationships for over 20 years. There is a lot of misinformation and bias displayed in most posts in this thread, no doubt out of ignorance and bias as relatively few people have actually experienced a poly relationship.

Hi Kevin! Several means (if not too intimate to tell) how many of the same people for the same years? I'm interested in the reality details.

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Tue 08/24/21 06:33 AM
A new thought after your inspiring replies (thank you for them again):
I think the time people spend with their loved ones can be amongst the most important factors that makes them feel they are loved. The need for time must be different person to person but I think there exist a certain minimum or "psychological limit" that makes a relathionship work. In order to be able to divide your time you can make a schedule which at the same time can deprive evolving love of its natural (and by its nature highly imaginative) flowing. It seems to me that committed long-term poliamory only works between highly conscious and stable minds who are just as responsible for one person as for the others...
Conluding, I think it's quite a rarity to find more than one person like this at one time. More realistically, poliamoria may exist rather for shorter time-spans. For me, it is as if true love would be multiplicated...

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Fri 08/20/21 11:43 PM
I'm inclined to agree with that thinking.Since we're all different, I'd say at some point, somebody is going to get their nose out of joint with that arrangement.

Been there, done that, not going back there again.

I agree adding that I think everything is temporary in different measures. If deep love kicks in it will enjoy priority. To be open for a change should be natural.

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Fri 08/20/21 02:16 PM
Well, being sexually active with multiple partners (in the same time span) is something beyond my rationale! Wot I can think of is, LOVE is not possible along with the same! That is, if you consider love to be subtle and one of the finer emotions/feelings. Wot can happen is "love making".
The automated, digitalized and "modern world" comes up with smart terms and terminology! However, most of the time these make us more restless and ill at peace! I am not trying to be morally correct, I am just trying to put things straight! YES, we must endeavor to grow out of a hypocritical society; but not to replace it with another hypocritical order.

The above are solely my personal thoughts, and in no way directed to hurt anyone's personal feelings!

Well I don't inow. Surely it's a question of flexibility of mind and individual psychic history. Somehow I feel the very rationalitic side strong enough to justify its existance anyhow it may be called in today's fashionable terms.

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Fri 08/20/21 06:49 AM
Of seeingoncentrating on the values of your partners and accepting their own needs as they accept yours. Working the best out of a beginning attraction and keeping up care and attention. Building the relationships on these conscious mutual benefits which based on the fact that you have each other.
Well, hard to put it. I'm just thinking how it could work and on my demands but a beginner in the idea.

Sorry, many typos. Pity it cannot be modified...

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Fri 08/20/21 06:47 AM
I'll appreciate if you can elaborate on that. World view of?

Of seeingoncentrating on the values of your partners and accepting their own needs as they accept yours. Working the best out of a beginning attraction and keeping up care and attention. Building the relationships on these conscious mutual benefits which based on the fact that you have each other.
Well, hard to put it. I'm just thinking how it could work and on my demands but a beginner in the idea.

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Fri 08/20/21 05:52 AM
Polyamory? Okay, is that in fiction or something real? I really have no clue how that's possible! But I am reading on....

Hi Kevin, thanks for joining in. I think it comes with a world view or look on life.

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Fri 08/20/21 01:29 AM
Polyamory is little more than multiple 'Friends with Benefits' in my opinion, unless it's leading to some form of polygamy, but since that involves total commitment it is unlikely.

I think about it as real love, commitment, respecting and valuing more than one person. It supposes bigger sovereignty and independency and maybe more consciousness about being in a relatioship and about the merits of having a connection.

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Thu 08/19/21 02:14 PM
Hi Laura :wave: increased awareness can be effective in bringing about whether change is effective depends on risk assessment , (what we see as a threat or reward) . As with accepting differing expressions of sexuality , changes to relationship norms are slow to progress . Beliefs and attitudes grounded in cultural and religious values have a lot to do with what behaviour society as a whole is willing to accept . Likely having multiple partners at the same time will remain an outlier in western society for many years to come . The practice of having multiple partners is not new in the eastern world and has existed for centuries . .

:thumbsup:thank you

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Thu 08/19/21 12:37 PM
Well, you did ask for opinions...

There's pros & cons to every intimate relationship.
By evolution I was not meaning physical evolution more of a social evolution.
Modern society evolves over time and reproduction disciplines also evolve over time. Morally, right now, polyamory is still taboo for much of the population.

I've read some interesting science fiction works which explore the lifestyles of people when reproduction is removed from individual people and embryos are grown in vats.
Without the necessity of the reproduction process and the requirements of that union, people are free to love as they wish. Society adopts and open mind concerning sharing love. Marriage becomes non-existent and individuals are free to express sexual desire with anyone they choose.

While we are a long way from that scenario it is possible in some distant future. Test Tube babies have already been done as well as cloning. As morals change, so might the laws which keep these technologies at bay.

There are examples of communal marriages and families. While still taboo, they do exist as 'cults'. The fact they exist kinda opens the door to social acceptance...eventually.

Additionally, there is a potential market for the science fiction concept of the life-like sex bot android. Tho far from realistic technology right now, who knows what the future consumers will demand? However, if sex bots do become common in society, that would indicate an acceptance which might lead to socially accepted polyamory.

Right now, as others have already stated trust, STDs and moral attitudes get in the way of "Free Love".
Way too many have 'personal baggage' which gets in the way.
Jealousy saturates human society.

Thanks again, very meaningful thoughts to me.

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Thu 08/19/21 07:05 AM
Hi Laura.

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Thank you!

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Thu 08/19/21 07:05 AM
Thank you!

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Thu 08/19/21 06:57 AM
:wave: Hi Laura, welcome to Mingle2 and the forums ❤

Thanks!

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Thu 08/19/21 06:56 AM
The other ones are Magyarorszag and Köszönöm 🤪


Not sure if the name of the topic can be changed though. But you can always open a new thread and contact the admins, so they can close the old one.

Thanks! :) Szép estét (have a nice evening)!

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Thu 08/19/21 06:53 AM
Poliamoria = Sexually-transmitted diseases

I also think it's high risk, avoidable only with a small number of trustworthy partners. Which goes into the cathegory of committed relationship but multiplied.

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Thu 08/19/21 06:46 AM
It has been discussed many times. usually gets raised by newcomers that don't stay long.
Last time it was posted isn't even that long ago, but I guess it disappears in the archives real fast cos it's not what most people here are interested in.

Yes, I've searched through the pages without a result.
One person can be enough to gain new thoughts :)
Thanks for the answer!

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Thu 08/19/21 06:41 AM
I think, you are sensing the beginning of the evolution of the human species to a personal fulfillment desire.
Religion used to set morality standards generation after generation. Recently, religion has taken a back seat to personal fulfillment.
Parents used to be active in their children's lives, teaching their morals and attitudes while guiding them to adulthood.
Recently, the media has been teaching the children. Few families sit together for meals and most of the time, the TV is on or someone has their nose in a phone.
Instant gratification has become the norm for many people.
Great, meaningful relationships take time and effort. Many of the current population want it all right now.

There are people who prefer taking it slow and sure. Many are afraid because they rushed into a relationship which ended badly for them. Some are hesitant because of horror stories they have heard. Then you have the ones who know building a meaningful, loving relationship with someone has to be done correctly and that takes time.

This trend which is evolving the human race bleeds off into other areas of life as well. Instant credit, fast service, fast food, shop at home, instant communication, instant internet and it goes on and on.

Some people will date one person after the next after the next and continuously change partners 'looking' for that one perfect match.
The problem with this is the fact all people are different and nobody is ever going to live to anyone else's expectations perfectly.

You end up with stressed out, impatient people jaded about life and how nothing ever works how they want it. They feel cheated or worse, unimportant.
Self-esteem takes a hit and they look to others to fix that which only they can fix. Sometimes depression sets in.

I see many things others do which contributes to their malcontent in life.
I see the changes in personal relationships and personal attitudes towards life.
There are a lot of delusions in society which bleeds into personal lives.
So Yes,
The ideas of commitment, loyalty and even love are changing. For the better or worse is unclear at this point in time.
If society trends toward polyamory, its certainly going to affect families and future generations. Good or bad, I can't really say.
But...its not a precedent. The 60s decade opened the door and the resultant generation initiated the change. Now, 2-3 generations later morals and values have changed. I seriously doubt we are in the 'end game' of this evolution, perhaps we are seeing the beginning?
Whether multiple partnered love takes hold is still a question.

Interesting topic for discussion...

Thank you Tom, especially for the very last columns, I like this kind of open minded curiosity about change and future. I was wondering that taking aside the psychical/ biological/ evolutional aspect, could P. expand the quality of relationships to a higher, richer level. I think it also have sg to do with today's new social behavioral forms like partnership, community-thinking. In this aspect I see a certain development in the attention (care?) to ourselves and to others as well.

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Thu 08/19/21 12:37 AM
I'm surprised there are no closely related topics here... at least I couldn't find one (is there any?).
It's interesting to me because I sense the shifting of meaning in the ideas of commitment, loyality and even love. What do you think?

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Thu 08/19/21 12:29 AM
... if communication works here! :)

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Thu 08/19/21 12:13 AM
Hi Cleve, just wanter to tell you how I liked your answer, mostly the "teaching" part. It confirmee me that you can really shape your relationships if you know consciously what you want and also express it clearly.

I also think the terms commitment or loyalty are shifting in their meaning. It would be nice to talk about it. I'm looking for a topic "virtual/real love" or sg like that or may create one myself.

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