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Topic: Naomi Wolf: "Arrest Bush now!"
warmachine Joined Tue 04/08/08 Posts: 4528	Sun 10/05/08 07:37 PM
Before anyone gets all p!ssy, go watch the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XgkeTanCGI

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 10/05/08 08:08 PM
fantastic vid war thanks for posting

warmachine Joined Tue 04/08/08 Posts: 4528	Sun 10/05/08 08:09 PM
fantastic vid war thanks for posting Simply serving out my civic duties!

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 10/05/08 08:19 PM
fantastic vid war thanks for posting Simply serving out my civic duties! this vid is great! I have six minuts to go and its fantastic

warmachine Joined Tue 04/08/08 Posts: 4528	Sun 10/05/08 08:33 PM
Fantastic, but it's also scarier than hell. She's right you know, about the 10 steps to facsism. My only problem with Naomi is that she places too much faith in the Left, who are just as complicit. All facts though, I would love it if someone could prove her wrong.

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 10/05/08 08:38 PM
Fantastic, but it's also scarier than hell. She's right you know, about the 10 steps to facsism. My only problem with Naomi is that she places too much faith in the Left, who are just as complicit. All facts though, I would love it if someone could prove her wrong. when I was a little more right than I am now I dated a gal that was totaly liberal to the extreme did folk music and was a vegan, went to raw food parties with her and drumming circles at the time i was a fish out of water, I asked her why she would get involved with a guy like me because we were basicly political opposits she said because liberal men are such whimps and she prefers men who are men just an interesting side note about why the left is rather weak. Anyhow I have been a fan of Naomi for a long time she is one smart and great looking woman. her facts are accurate and only a self deluded fool could try to prove her wrong

wouldee Joined Sun 10/07/07 Posts: 5335	Sun 10/05/08 08:43 PM Edited by wouldee on Sun 10/05/08 08:48 PM
tianenmen square. the chinese christian revival turns into a democracy now protest in the streets. The Sounthern Baptists aligned with those chinese students that flipped the revival into a protest against the establishment. The government did nothing. the students erected a staue of liberty. the government did nothing. Tanks and soldiers rolled into the square and stopped at the feet of the protestors. the government still did nothing. why? they were taking pictures, interviewing the organizers, feigning affirmation of the protest, and generally appearing as citizens embracing democracy and CHANGE. well, what happened then? After the government lulled the organizers into a false sense of security, they finished cataloguing them all ans in one fell swoop scooped them all up en mass under arrest. game over. Because the southern Baptist were comlicitous with this revolt in the morph from revival to a democracy now attempt at coup, the chinese government was wary and reticent for years about allowing them, or any christian charity, to move freely throughout the country on their humanitarian missions. It took a lot of work to get these medical missions and relief efforts back into the graces of the Chinese government. But the point rather is how the chinese gvernment worked the protestors with a push pull martial tactic. Pull them into a false sense of security to embolden their resolve and make visible and transparent the movement's leaders and network. Then, push them away rather quickly when the protestors were comfortable with having been embraced peacefully. That tactic works. but don't put much stock in this book or the desemination of its principles. It is with an islamic sympathy that the threat of martial law being declared wears a christian face, and that the face of Bush is the face of this fascist coup. Things are not always what they seem on the surface. More times than not, it is temerity that misses what patience brings. God Bless America.

warmachine Joined Tue 04/08/08 Posts: 4528	Sun 10/05/08 08:51 PM
islamic sympathy ? I hate to say it, but I think thats crap. When the globalists write that they will manufacture WW3 and it will be the Christians and Jews against the Muslims and decades later, here we go, who do you blame? How can the west intervene in an area over and over in the soveriegn territory of another nation and then blame the people who live there for being pissed off? Put yourself in their shoes, nevermind, we'll be in their shoes soon enough.

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 10/05/08 08:53 PM
islamic sympathy ? I hate to say it, but I think thats crap. When the globalists write that they will manufacture WW3 and it will be the Christians and Jews against the Muslims and decades later, here we go, who do you blame? How can the west intervene in an area over and over in the soveriegn territory of another nation and then blame the people who live there for being pissed off? Put yourself in their shoes, nevermind, we'll be in their shoes soon enough. I agree we invade and then label them terrorists when they get mad about it.

wouldee Joined Sun 10/07/07 Posts: 5335	Sun 10/05/08 08:57 PM
islamic sympathy ? I hate to say it, but I think thats crap. When the globalists write that they will manufacture WW3 and it will be the Christians and Jews against the Muslims and decades later, here we go, who do you blame? How can the west intervene in an area over and over in the soveriegn territory of another nation and then blame the people who live there for being pissed off? Put yourself in their shoes, nevermind, we'll be in their shoes soon enough. you weren't listening to her. SHe sees christianity as the great evil in Bush's head, war. she has had play on al-jezeera for months. get with the program.

warmachine Joined Tue 04/08/08 Posts: 4528	Sun 10/05/08 09:05 PM
Oh, BOO! Ron Paul got play on Al Jazeera too, are you gonna call him a Islamic Sympathizer? Nevermind that freedom to live belongs to all people, given by the creator. When you look at the worst offenders of the rights of people over there, the worst murders in power, its all folks we propped up into power. She doesn't see Christianity as an evil, she sees the NeoCons/ Extremist Evangelical use of religion as evil and it is. I don't get with Programming.

captainkirk56 Joined Sat 01/05/08 Posts: 301	Sun 10/05/08 09:07 PM
u saying that religion is the root of all evil.. love they neighbour do not kill do not covet the neighbours goods.. opps...first 3 are wrong...or at least not kept all wars are based on religion...or religious beliefs.. hitler called the French resistance (terrorists).. we called them heros ???????? depends what side of the fence u sit on

captainkirk56 Joined Sat 01/05/08 Posts: 301	Sun 10/05/08 09:09 PM
4 more years....then we dont have to worry.. check the Maya Calender... 2012...were all toast

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 10/05/08 09:10 PM
Oh, BOO! Ron Paul got play on Al Jazeera too, are you gonna call him a Islamic Sympathizer? Nevermind that freedom to live belongs to all people, given by the creator. When you look at the worst offenders of the rights of people over there, the worst murders in power, its all folks we propped up into power. She doesn't see Christianity as an evil, she sees the NeoCons/ Extremist Evangelical use of religion as evil and it is. I don't get with Programming. exactly

wouldee Joined Sun 10/07/07 Posts: 5335	Sun 10/05/08 09:21 PM
Oh, BOO! Ron Paul got play on Al Jazeera too, are you gonna call him a Islamic Sympathizer? Nevermind that freedom to live belongs to all people, given by the creator. When you look at the worst offenders of the rights of people over there, the worst murders in power, its all folks we propped up into power. She doesn't see Christianity as an evil, she sees the NeoCons/ Extremist Evangelical use of religion as evil and it is. I don't get with Programming. sure you do, war. you have no clear concept of God. Therefore, your concept of political intrigues and constitutional analysis is entirely secular. you gotta know how to bend with the wind so you don't break. When the time comes to separate the men from the boys then and only then will we see the ones that are getting with the program. But much evil has to happen before such drastic measures can unfold into an all out civil war. Ron Paul and his crowd will ether be in Austria by then or in jail singing.

1956deluxe Joined Thu 12/06/07 Posts: 8559	Sun 10/05/08 09:24 PM
Before anyone gets all p!ssy, go watch the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XgkeTanCGI That was quite the interview. Thanks for posting. This almost reminds me of the movie, "They Live".

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 10/05/08 09:30 PM
Before anyone gets all p!ssy, go watch the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XgkeTanCGI That was quite the interview. Thanks for posting. This almost reminds me of the movie, "They Live". I want to be in a Fema camp with Naomi Wolf

wouldee Joined Sun 10/07/07 Posts: 5335	Sun 10/05/08 10:18 PM
here's another story about playing war for keeps There was a chemistry professor who had exchange students in his class. One day while the class was in the lab, the professor noticed one young exchange student who kept rubbing his back and stretching as if his back hurt. The professor asked him what was the matter. The student told him he had a bullet lodged in his back. He had been shot while fighting communists in his native country who were trying to overthrow his country's government and install a communist regime. In the midst of his story, he looked at the professor and asked a strange question. 'Do you know how to catch wild pigs?' The professor thought it was a joke and asked what the punch line was. The young man said it was no joke. 'You catch pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs find it and begin to come every day to eat the corn. When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming. When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again. The you put up another side of the fence. They get used to that and start eating again. You continue till you have all four sides of fence with a gate in the last side. The pigs, which have become used to eating all this free corn start to come through the gate to eat the free corn again. You then slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd. Suddenly, the pigs have lost their freedom. They run around inside the fence, but they are caught. Soon, they go back to eating the free corn. They are so used to it that they have forgotten how to forage in the woods for themselves so they accept the captivity. The young man then told the professor that is exactly what he sees happening in the United States. The government keeps pushing us towards communism/socialism and keeps spreading the free corn in the form of programs such as supplemental income, tax credits for unearned income, tax cuts, tax exemptions, tobacco subsidies, dairy subsidies, payments to not plant crops (CRP), welfare, drugs, etc. - while we continually lose our freedoms just a little at a time. One should always remember two truths: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH and YOU CAN NEVER HIRE SOMEONE TO PROVIDE A SERVICE FOR YOU CHEAPER THAN YOU CAN DO IT YOURSELF. If you see that all of this wonderful government 'help' is a problem confronting the future of democracy in America, you might want to send this on to your friends. If you think the free ride is your way of life, then you probably will delete this email. But God help you when the gate slams shut! The only thing I can add to this is a question for you. Which candidates out there are most anxious to spread around the feed corn and what might be their motives? Think about it.

warmachine Joined Tue 04/08/08 Posts: 4528	Sun 10/05/08 10:20 PM
Oh, BOO! Ron Paul got play on Al Jazeera too, are you gonna call him a Islamic Sympathizer? Nevermind that freedom to live belongs to all people, given by the creator. When you look at the worst offenders of the rights of people over there, the worst murders in power, its all folks we propped up into power. She doesn't see Christianity as an evil, she sees the NeoCons/ Extremist Evangelical use of religion as evil and it is. I don't get with Programming. sure you do, war. you have no clear concept of God. Therefore, your concept of political intrigues and constitutional analysis is entirely secular. you gotta know how to bend with the wind so you don't break. When the time comes to separate the men from the boys then and only then will we see the ones that are getting with the program. But much evil has to happen before such drastic measures can unfold into an all out civil war. Ron Paul and his crowd will ether be in Austria by then or in jail singing. First of all, no man can tell me what my walk with the Creator is. Any man who thinks he can judge my walk, is violating one of the lessons that Jesus himself taught. In case you haven't noticed, our Constitution makes it clear that our Government is to be secular in nature, thats part of what the first amendment is all about. You can't have freedom of religion, when you have a religious central government. Papal Rome? Ron Paul might end up in a jail, but he's not going to Austria, he's doing what he can with the time he has left on this planet to educate. 1.) You are obliged to speak freely, it is your duty. 2.) You rebel continually against injustice and oppression. 3.) Ordinary citizens are supposed to run things not professional politicians. 4.) American’s cherish the rule of law. 5.) American has no established God. Religious freedom requires there be no state religion. 6.) Deliberate with our neighbors not the false left/right paradigm whipped up by demagogues. 7.) We cannot maintain an oppressive empire and still be American. Liberty is a universal human right.

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 10/05/08 10:22 PM
here's another story about playing war for keeps There was a chemistry professor who had exchange students in his class. One day while the class was in the lab, the professor noticed one young exchange student who kept rubbing his back and stretching as if his back hurt. The professor asked him what was the matter. The student told him he had a bullet lodged in his back. He had been shot while fighting communists in his native country who were trying to overthrow his country's government and install a communist regime. In the midst of his story, he looked at the professor and asked a strange question. 'Do you know how to catch wild pigs?' The professor thought it was a joke and asked what the punch line was. The young man said it was no joke. 'You catch pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs find it and begin to come every day to eat the corn. When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming. When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again. The you put up another side of the fence. They get used to that and start eating again. You continue till you have all four sides of fence with a gate in the last side. The pigs, which have become used to eating all this free corn start to come through the gate to eat the free corn again. You then slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd. Suddenly, the pigs have lost their freedom. They run around inside the fence, but they are caught. Soon, they go back to eating the free corn. They are so used to it that they have forgotten how to forage in the woods for themselves so they accept the captivity. The young man then told the professor that is exactly what he sees happening in the United States. The government keeps pushing us towards communism/socialism and keeps spreading the free corn in the form of programs such as supplemental income, tax credits for unearned income, tax cuts, tax exemptions, tobacco subsidies, dairy subsidies, payments to not plant crops (CRP), welfare, drugs, etc. - while we continually lose our freedoms just a little at a time. One should always remember two truths: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH and YOU CAN NEVER HIRE SOMEONE TO PROVIDE A SERVICE FOR YOU CHEAPER THAN YOU CAN DO IT YOURSELF. If you see that all of this wonderful government 'help' is a problem confronting the future of democracy in America, you might want to send this on to your friends. If you think the free ride is your way of life, then you probably will delete this email. But God help you when the gate slams shut! The only thing I can add to this is a question for you. Which candidates out there are most anxious to spread around the feed corn and what might be their motives? Think about it. I wish they would have thought of that when they hired Halliburton.