When I see discussions like this I think about a man I knew very well, a US Army veteran of WWII/Normandy invasion, a real hero, that told me this story:

He was recounting the first German soldier he killed in combat. As he walked up to the dead German, he said he was a very young man, probably 18, who had a belt buckle that had German writing on it that basically translated to "God is on Our Side".

As he gazed upon the dead soldier, he thought to himself, "If God is on their side, who the heck is on ours?"

Corsi is a whacko and Joe Arpaio is a jack booted thug.

That's the bottom line.

I live in AZ and know them both.

I am Catholic and do not see this as an attack on Catholics.

I see it as a benefit to women. PERIOD!

People are making it a political issue.

If anything, I would think more women in this country would be upset with the GOP and the Catholic Bishops for making this an issue.

I am so sick of FOX News telling people what to think.

If GOP was smart, they would stop attacks on women.

I am surprised they get any at all.....

Jerome Corsi is an idiot.

He wrote a book "Where's the Birth Certificate"

Shortly after, President Obama released his birth certificate, long form.

Jerome Corsi's publisher was really p.o.'d and tore Jerry Corsi a new one. He said Jerome made him look like a f'ing idiot and had all 200,000 copies of the book turned to pulp.

Obama should send Seal Team Six to wax Jerome's azz.

Screw all the BS about capital gains...
How does that relate to the middle class???
It's these rich SOB's that know all about capital gains and how to game the system.

F them all

Why do you think it's the US's job to be nursemaid to the world?


Because we have the ability.


You have got to be kidding me..."because we have the ability"???

Should we attack North Korea?
Should we attack China?
Should we attack Russia?

What a joke!

I agree with Peccy....Ron Paul has it right!

And the funny thing is that he has the support of 90% of active military on his foreign policy....rest of GOP seems to be out of touch?

More than one million Wisconsinites have signed a petition to recall Scott Walker, representing the most-participated-in major recall effort in American history, and a number so significant that it is beyond any legal challenge. More then 845,000 signatures were collected for Rebecca Kleefisch. Signatures were submitted to the Government Accountability Board this afternoon.

The signatures represent the largest recall effort in the history of the United States and 185 percent of the signatures needed to trigger a recall of Walker.

“The collection of more than one million signatures represents a crystal clear indication of how strong the appetite is to stop the damage and turmoil that Scott Walker has caused Wisconsin,” said Ryan Lawler, board member for United Wisconsin. “Scott Walker and his supporters tried to demean and marginalize recall circulators, but in Wisconsin winter, an army of more than 30,000 Wisconsin born-and-bred recall volunteers took to street corners, malls, places of worship, dinner tables and sidewalks to take their state back.

The total of a million signatures to recall Scott Walker represents nearly half, 46 percent, of the electorate – and is just shy of the TOTAL votes received by Walker in his 2010 election (Walker received 1.12 million votes).

In comparison, this figure surpasses the per capita participation in the effort to trigger a ballot initiative in Ohio last fall against a Republican union-busting effort, where 32 percent of the electorate signed the petition, and in America’s only other two gubernatorial recalls, in 2003 in California and in 1921 in North Dakota, the signature totals were 23.4 percent and 31.8 percent, of the electorate signed respectively. The attached charts outline these figures.

Fun facts about the recall petitions of Walker, Kleefisch and the Senate recalls include:

The weight of all of the signatures collected is 3,000 pounds. That’s two of the heaviest Wisconsin Dairy (Holstein) Cows, or 158 of the heaviest Badgers.

300,000 pages at 14″ each laid end to end is 66.3 miles. This is the distance from Green Bay to Oshkosh, La Crosse to Tomah.

Stood straight up the petition pile is 128 times higher than the tallest building in the world.

Stacked on top of one another, the petitions would reach 125 feet high, which is taller than the wings of the Madison Capitol Building (those are 84 feet high).

United Wisconsin is the non-partisan grassroots organization heading up the recall efforts of Scott Walker and Rebecca Kleefisch in Wisconsin. The group plans to continue its work as the recall campaign moves forward.


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Bye Bye Scooter Hahahaha!

Here's the bottom line:

I consider myself a "middle class" American.

I pay 25% in income taxes.

That SOB Mitt Romney is worth what, half a biilion? and pays a lower tax rate than me?

25% me
15% Romney

F That !!!

I think he is totally "Plastic". Everytime I see him on TV he seems so diamned fake. Why can't others see that?

Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney tip-toed around the topic of his personal finances during Monday night’s Republican Party debate, but reporters covering the campaign trail in South Carolina have remained persistent in picking on Romney for his unwillingness to disclose his tax records. From the debate stage in Myrtle Beach, SC on Monday, Romney danced around questions about his income tax records, saying only that he would “probably” disclose them in the coming months but refusing to straight up insist that they would be published for the public.

Quizzed by reporters a day after the debate, Romney acted uncertain about how much he has been paying in taxes, but told members of the media that the figure was roughly 15 percent. In the top tax bracket, where Romney presumably belongs as a multi-millionaire, others are expected to pay 35 percent.

Who does pay 15 percent? That federal tax bracket is reserved for those making under $34,000.

"What's the effective rate I've been paying?" asked Romney on Tuesday. "It's probably closer to the 15 percent rate than anything because my last 10 years, my income comes overwhelmingly from some investments made in the past, whether ordinary income or earned annually.”

While Romney could certainly find loopholes to keep his carried interest made off of his share of Bain Capital’s profits subjected to only such a rate, the rest of his income — which annually accounts for hundreds of thousands of dollars— should be expected to be a bit higher. The tax rate for those that rake in more than $379,150 in taxable income was at 35 percent in 2011.
The candidate said on Tuesday that that wasn’t all of his income, either. "I get speaker's fees from time to time, but not very much," said Romney.

What constitutes “not very much”? Less than a year ago in February 2011, Romney made around $375,000 for delivering only nine speeches, roughly equating to around $41,000 per address. Per 2010 statistics obtained by the US Census Bureau, Romney was earning only around $8,000 less for each speech than what the median household income was for every wage-earner in America.

Romney’s actual worth is unconfirmed, but for his role at Bain Capital he is thought to have collected a fortune to the tune of around 250 million dollars. In 2010 alone, USA Today estimated that he made upwards of $38.8 million, with half of that being taxed well below the 35 percent reserved for his class.

The only thing it would seem that Mitt Romney has with the average American is that they are, somehow, paying nearly the same tax rate. Somehow, however, Romney seems to be paying even less than Middle America.

Tax expert Martin Press tells USA Today, "It's dividends, capital gains and maybe a little tax sheltering" that allow Romney to get away with landing in such a low bracket. If Romney wins the race to the White House, it could be even lower.




I have been working the past week on my pesonal income taxes and recognized that I have been paying 25%!!!!!!!!

F Mitt Romney!!

WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON IN IA, NH, AND SC - by Bev Harris

Despite what you see about who "won" Iowa and who "won" New Hampshire and who "won" South Carolina, that's not the main function of these very early contests. What they are really about is culling down the field, promptly, and this is not really based on who wins.

New Hampshire, and to a lesser extent Iowa and South Carolina, play a disproportionate role in removing your choice of candidates in the primary. While you watch the horse race in these three states, understand that if you live in any other state, you are going to have fewer candidate choices, or no chance to vote on the candidate of your choice at all.

IT'S ABOUT EXPECTATIONS, NOT WINNING

If a candidate "exceeds expectations" built by TV punditry and whichever poll is being quoted at the time, three things happen:

1. TV pundits start the drumbeat, building public expectations about "inevitability" of the candidate who did "better than expected";

2. Donor money reroutes itself, pouring dollars into the newly inevitable candidate;

3. Media then reports on the candidate's prowess in fund raising, citing this newly found skill as reason to believe the candidate is even more inevitable.

The reverse (fewer votes than "expected") creates an even more definitive result:

1. Media speculates repetitively on when the candidate will drop out;

2. Donor funds for the candidate dry up;

3. Media cites weaker donations as evidence that the candidate cannot win;

4. The party begins pushing the candidate to get out of the way;

5. Articles begin focusing on the cost of primaries in states where people have not yet had an opportunity to vote (underlying message: why do these primaries?);

6. Pundits begin the new drumbeat: "The longer it takes for candidates to get out of the way, the more damage to the party's prospects of winning the general election in November."

SOUTH CAROLINA

New Hampshire will produce an anointed candidate who will "do better than expected" to become "inevitable." Some of the other frontrunners will be hammered down firmly with "worse than expected"; all week long before South Carolina we will get treated to a persuasive TV pundit parade telling us what we should think.

What to do about it?

1) Think for yourself and ignore the pundits. Stop letting yourself get persuaded by a politicized media machine.

I thought the clear winner was Ron Paul.

But if you watched the FOX spin after the debate, you would be clearly manipulated into thinking the only people on the stage were Romney, Santorum & Gingrich.

Made me sick after the debate, Sean Hannity, all he talked about was Romney, Santorum, Gingrich. (Mitt, Dick & Newt)

Has the GOP gone nuts? Mitt, Dick & Newt? C'mon!!!

FOX is really making me sick these days.

Where the hell is the TEA Party now?

After watching all this crap on TV including the "conservative"? FOX News, I see Mitt Romney continue to climb in the polls is being portrayed as the likely GOP nominee......I keep thinking to myself, "Where the hell is the TEA Party?"

I haven't heard hardly a peep. FOX is sure not covering any rallys. Have they gone away? Given up? How can they let an SOB like Romney slip intom the positon?

It seems like the last I heard of the TEA Party in this GOP race was when Cain was in it....and they were referring to him as the "TEA Party Favorite?" Give me a F'ing BREAK!

I have a theory that FOX is not going to allow Ron Paul to get the nomination. They give him just enough coverage so followers don't beech but deep down, they want to see him lose. I really think he giot screwed by FOX in the last election and it seems to be continuing but everyone still watches FOX.

I have a feeling that the people are being fed a bunch of BS and being manipulated by propaganda into nominating someone who will be favorable to big business.

JMO

Now Mitt Romney wins the New Hampshire primary....News is talking like he will be the chosen one.

Still scratching my head.

That's just the trailer....can't wait to see the whole video. I understand it's 25 minutes long.

From all the polls, it looks like he is going to be THE GOP Nominee for 2012.

That's when all the problems started....New Video about GOP frontrunner.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/videos/2012/01/09/pro-gingrich-ad-blasts-romney-s-bain-work.html

Walmart is going to get sued for sure.

Arizona Law:

13-1805. Shoplifting; detaining suspect; defense to wrongful detention; civil action by merchant; public services; classification

C. A merchant, or a merchant's agent or employee, with reasonable cause, may detain on the premises in a reasonable manner and for a reasonable time any person who is suspected of shoplifting as prescribed in subsection A of this section for questioning or summoning a law enforcement officer.


Was grandpa ddetained in a reasonable manner?

I also watched an interview on local news with the grandson...he said he had a video game and people were trying to grab it out of his hands. Grandpa stepped in to help. The kid is very believable and I am sure a jury will give him and grandpa a huge $$$$ settlement.

F Walmart

Hmmmm...that's strange. The SEALS were not supposed to talk to anybody. Their superiors qustioned them in regards to whether or not they talked to Pfarrer, the answer was "No".

If the SEALS had talked to Pfarrer, that would constitute a "violation of orders".

Do you think SEALS routinely violate orders?

So who is lying? The SEALs that were involved in the raid or Pfarrer?

I think Pfarrer stands to profit with the sale of his book...that is a motive.

Did Pfarrer put the SEALS in greater jeopardy, and our National Security at great risk if it is true, and he outlines in explicit detail how the operation was conducted???

Sounds a lot worse than what he is acusing the President of. And he is doing it for profit.

Something is very hokey about this whole thread and Mr. Pfarrer.

JMO