Topic: I believe....
Ruth34611's photo
Fri 11/21/08 11:49 AM

I saw a thing on the science channel a couple of days ago

they had a monkey on a treadmill. As he walked he got treats. lots of electrodes attached to his brain. The electrical impulses were simultaneously controlling a robot on a treadmill in London

when they turned off the treadmill, the monkey stopped walking but continued to keep the robot walking in order to receive more treats

the implication was for paralyzed people to control limbs and such using brain impulses


That would imply that there are parts of our brain that we still need to learn how to use.

catwoman96's photo
Fri 11/21/08 11:55 AM
or perhaps just understand better the way the brain works. chemicals, transmitters, pathways, pleasure receptors, disease processes..

if the "average" person only truly used 10% of their brains...


well I mean Ive seen braindead before...and we can control many things..but ya cant fix a dead brain. nor can you stop the degenerative diseases of the mind.

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 11/21/08 11:59 AM
If they think they can teach people to use electrical impulses in the brain to do something new, isn't that learning to do something you previously did not do?

And, to learn to do something new you would have to learn more about how it works. So, the two go hand in hand.

I have no idea how much of our brain we use or use to its fullest extent. It just makes sense that we are using more of the brain all the time through evolution. But, that's just my opinion.

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Fri 11/21/08 12:02 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Fri 11/21/08 12:04 PM



Then have him win a million bucks by demonstrating these abilities.



Looking briefly at the site it looks like a man who debunks psychics. And, your statement is a challenge to me to demonstrate my psychic abilities? Am I understanding you?

No. I said have "him" win some money. If effects can be demonstrated then he can win some money.

And I have a question why would us using all of our brain mean that sky is right?

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Use of the brain is expensive, it takes a lot of metabolism to keep the thing fed. Evolution might produce oversized brains that did not directly relate to survival, but that would actually hamper survival due to greater demands on resources . . . thus why this would not be selected against.

ie that makes no sense to say we have a bigger brain then we make use for.

catwoman96's photo
Fri 11/21/08 12:03 PM
the brain is an organ. It can be stimulated.

in all sorts of ways.

drugs/medications
information
electric impulses
concentration
experiances


so i assume like any organ..if it is not stimulated..it does not grow stronger and more powerful....it would grow weaker.


but Im not sure that this means your brain isnt working properly...some people are just content with their current level. i guess. idk.


Ruth34611's photo
Fri 11/21/08 12:05 PM




Then have him win a million bucks by demonstrating these abilities.



Looking briefly at the site it looks like a man who debunks psychics. And, your statement is a challenge to me to demonstrate my psychic abilities? Am I understanding you?

No. I said have "him" win some money. If effects can be demonstrated then he can win some money.

And I have a question why would us using all of our brain mean that sky is right?


He said that he didn't think that psychic abilites originate in the brain. If we already use 100% of our brain and do not have psychic abilities then the psychic abilities must be originating from somewhere else.

HawaiiMusikMan's photo
Fri 11/21/08 12:06 PM
Edited by HawaiiMusikMan on Fri 11/21/08 12:09 PM
I wrote a blog about this on my myspace a while back:

http://www.myspace.com/briancdavis

"Life in a dream world" (top right)

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 11/21/08 12:07 PM

the brain is an organ. It can be stimulated.

in all sorts of ways.

drugs/medications
information
electric impulses
concentration
experiances


so i assume like any organ..if it is not stimulated..it does not grow stronger and more powerful....it would grow weaker.


but Im not sure that this means your brain isnt working properly...some people are just content with their current level. i guess. idk.




I think we may actually be in agreement here and just don't realize it yet. :wink:

If we are learning to stimulate the brain in new ways to increase certain abilities than we are learning a new way to use the brain.

You are right. Any unstimulated part of the body tends to grow weaker.

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 11/21/08 12:11 PM

I wrote a blog about this on my myspace a while back:

http://www.myspace.com/briancdavis

"Life in a dream world" (top right)


Very interesting blog. I agree with all of it.

HawaiiMusikMan's photo
Fri 11/21/08 12:32 PM


I wrote a blog about this on my myspace a while back:

http://www.myspace.com/briancdavis

"Life in a dream world" (top right)


Very interesting blog. I agree with all of it.

thanks for reading

it's a bit matrix-esque but I think there's some truth to it

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 11/21/08 12:34 PM



I wrote a blog about this on my myspace a while back:

http://www.myspace.com/briancdavis

"Life in a dream world" (top right)


Very interesting blog. I agree with all of it.

thanks for reading

it's a bit matrix-esque but I think there's some truth to it


There is much truth to be found in the Bible if you read it without having been taught what it means first.

Jess642's photo
Fri 11/21/08 01:02 PM

It is said that we will only use an average of 10% of our brain before we die...

It is my opinion, that it is possible...in the unused 90% lies the ability to do things most concider to be impossible....the things which seem so far fetched that they seem like a fantasy and nothing more.

The so called, "super-human powers", telepathy, telekinesis, etcare lying in the untapped resources of our brain...

Biblically speaking, we are told that God does not want us to know all that there is to know, as it would "blow the human mind"...Provived the Bible is truthful, this could explain how Jesus performed miracles...using some sort of deep meditation, he learned how to "breech the barrier", and reach into the unused 90%, and realized that now anything is possible...and anything that actually was not possible, he would just say that we are told not to put God to the test....


I am not saying the Bible is false...I am using it to illustrate the point at hand...

There are alot more details involved in how I came to this conclusion...much to detailed, and long to type into here...quantum physics plays a part as well.
This is a general outline of the conclusion.



Without the biblical connotations....


....anything is possible with a little imagination...

:wink:

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Fri 11/21/08 01:13 PM




I wrote a blog about this on my myspace a while back:

http://www.myspace.com/briancdavis

"Life in a dream world" (top right)


Very interesting blog. I agree with all of it.

thanks for reading

it's a bit matrix-esque but I think there's some truth to it


There is much truth to be found in the Bible if you read it without having been taught what it means first.

There is also a lot of meaning to be found in those word refrigerator magnets when you random shuffle them around too.

HawaiiMusikMan's photo
Fri 11/21/08 01:15 PM

There is also a lot of meaning to be found in those word refrigerator magnets when you random shuffle them around too.

haters rant :tongue:

lovemeifyoucan26's photo
Fri 11/21/08 01:17 PM



If you compare the brain with an iceberg, the conscious part of the brain is the top of the iceberg. The rest is subconscious.
If we could call it up at will, there would be a lot more we could do.


And, I think with practice and time we will be able to access it. Some people can now and have in the past. Perhaps this is what evolution is?


I believe that this is, what meditation is about.
Still the conscious mind to be able to access the unconscious.


Meditation...to seek inner peace, and knowledge of the subconscience mind....not an easy quest, but brings you to a greater understanding....

lovemeifyoucan26's photo
Fri 11/21/08 01:23 PM

I agree that there are
so called, "super-human powers", telepathy, telekinesis, etc
But I don't believe anyone will ever "find them in the brain", any more than they will find them in the heart or the lungs or the big toe. I don't believe they are "findable" in any physical or material sense at all. I think that the very act of using a materalist paradigm to attempt to describe or manipulate them is self-defeating because their intrinsic nature is not material.


I see your perspective on the matter, but, I have to "stick to my guns" on this....
It is impossible for me to believe that we don't have the ability with in our brain to do awesome things....those that were killed for witchcraft...I believe they found some of the seemingly unfindable aspects of the mind....and the people were so small minded that it was beyond their rhelm of understanding...they knew only what they were told....and believed in the same way of those who taught them....

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 11/21/08 01:25 PM


There is also a lot of meaning to be found in those word refrigerator magnets when you random shuffle them around too.

haters rant :tongue:


rofl

HawaiiMusikMan's photo
Fri 11/21/08 01:27 PM



There is also a lot of meaning to be found in those word refrigerator magnets when you random shuffle them around too.

haters rant :tongue:


rofl

rofl rofl

no photo
Fri 11/21/08 01:27 PM


I agree that there are
so called, "super-human powers", telepathy, telekinesis, etc
But I don't believe anyone will ever "find them in the brain", any more than they will find them in the heart or the lungs or the big toe. I don't believe they are "findable" in any physical or material sense at all. I think that the very act of using a materalist paradigm to attempt to describe or manipulate them is self-defeating because their intrinsic nature is not material.


I see your perspective on the matter, but, I have to "stick to my guns" on this....
It is impossible for me to believe that we don't have the ability with in our brain to do awesome things....those that were killed for witchcraft...I believe they found some of the seemingly unfindable aspects of the mind....and the people were so small minded that it was beyond their rhelm of understanding...they knew only what they were told....and believed in the same way of those who taught them....


A single demonstration under scientific conditions could win you a million bucks . . .

http://www.randi.org/site/

lovemeifyoucan26's photo
Fri 11/21/08 01:27 PM

I hate to be the guy that pee's in anyone Wheaties but as we learn more about the brain we have discovered that we use the whole brain. That old saying that we use only 10% of our brain is pure mythology presented by early researchers due to a lack of progress. What they should have said was, we only understand how 10% of the brains works . .. then they would have been accurate.


We are making more progress in the last 10 years then we have made in the last 2000 in understanding cognition


debunked
http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/tenper.html


I still believe that there are unused parts of the brain....while there are aspects of each part of the brain that are used, it is not impossible that there remains parts unused.