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Topic: A very wise woman just told me...
JustAGuy2112's photo
Fri 07/24/09 05:42 PM



Yeah, Im nothing like the stupid whore I portray myself as.

laugh



ah someone who gets it. :wink: figured you would.


I got it as well. But ya still get the noway

LOL

JustAGuy2112's photo
Fri 07/24/09 05:45 PM

How many people would actually admit that they aren't being 100% themselves right now even if they really weren't. How many would admit to not being totally honest??


I fully an unashamedly admit that I censor myself. I call it being polite.


Yes, but censoring your words is way different than being honest about who YOU are.


Yes, you are right. I do see a huge difference between telling blatant lies about yourself and deliberately behaving a certain way. I'm not always sure which of those two (or where in between) people are talking about.

Keeping an opinion to yourself rather than blasting someone in an open forum is being a gentleman, which in fact tells a lot about your character!


Thank you for saying so! ... but, what if I'm not polite with my closest friends? What if I expect my partner to agree that politeness is circumstance dependent? In some circumstances, I value conversations that emphasize directness and raw emotional expression over politeness.

If someone overestimated my politeness based on my forum posts, and got very attached to that impression, and then came to be a friend (in person), they might feel I had misled them.

Maybe I'm just misunderstanding this conversation, because most people who mention specifics mention fake photos or blatant lies.



The part I put in bold letters is what I am talking about.

In an effort to be " polite ", you choose your words carefully. Rather than say what you would normally say.

Now, if you were to tell the person who takes an interest in you that you are not always that way, then the issue is moot.

But, if you proceed for an extended period of time, that time period being mostly subjective, without letting her know about that particular side of your personality, THEN it would be misleading.

JustAGuy2112's photo
Fri 07/24/09 05:49 PM





I am who I am- I don't ever pretend to be something Im not


Please understand this isn't personal. I want that understood up front. But these kinds of comments are kinda what the OP is talking about. How many people who say this are being honest?


Do you really think many aren't being honest when they say that? I don't try and pretend to be different than I am.


But, again. That goes back to the question...

If you were being somewhat dishonest in your portrayal of yourself...would you actually admit to it in a place like this??? Or anywhere, for that matter?

@ Heather

I think that might be pretty accurate. We ( well most of us anyway ) know what our faults are. A lot of people would try to hide them in a situation like we have here.

After all....everyone is looking for that " perfect someone ".

The general thought is " Who would want someone who has a bunch of faults?? ". So they soft shoe or completely hide them whenever they can.


I try to be pretty straightforward about who I am. I'd rather someone know what I'm actually like, rather than trying to make myself sound better and having them be disappointed if we actually met.

Doesn't everyone have faults, though? I don't expect anyone to be perfect.


After being here a while, most would realize that not everyone is looking for perfect.

However, for someone just coming in to the online dating scene, there is the mistaken presumption, based on a number of factors, that perfection is necessary to attract anyone's attention.

I readily admit that I was guilty of that misconception. That's why, when I first started here ( the site was JSH when I started ) I didn't come anywhere near the forums.

I know I am not perfect. But I thought I was supposed to be. I just can't pull that off.

mscherbear's photo
Fri 07/24/09 07:01 PM

I am who I am- I don't ever pretend to be something Im not


drinker Same here

JustAGuy2112's photo
Fri 07/24/09 07:29 PM


I am who I am- I don't ever pretend to be something Im not


drinker Same here


Yes. But your beauty and awesomeness wouldn't REQUIRE that you be anyone but yourself, Cher.flowerforyou smooched smooched

mscherbear's photo
Fri 07/24/09 07:33 PM



I am who I am- I don't ever pretend to be something Im not


drinker Same here


Yes. But your beauty and awesomeness wouldn't REQUIRE that you be anyone but yourself, Cher.flowerforyou smooched smooched


Oh wow, you are being way too generous, as usual. But thank you, Tim smooched

ClayFace2009's photo
Fri 07/24/09 07:36 PM
I definitley stay true to who I really am, or I don't even get involved in the subject on the forum (controversial subjects).

JustAGuy2112's photo
Fri 07/24/09 07:38 PM

I definitley stay true to who I really am, or I don't even get involved in the subject on the forum (controversial subjects).


But...in a real life situation...would you participate then???

mo22682's photo
Fri 07/24/09 07:42 PM
Edited by mo22682 on Fri 07/24/09 07:42 PM

mssilverfox's photo
Fri 07/24/09 07:51 PM
With me its "what you see is what you get" Not smart enought to lie! flowerforyou

mscherbear's photo
Fri 07/24/09 08:07 PM




Abso-freakin-lutely!

JustAGuy2112's photo
Fri 07/24/09 08:12 PM




I am who I am- I don't ever pretend to be something Im not


drinker Same here


Yes. But your beauty and awesomeness wouldn't REQUIRE that you be anyone but yourself, Cher.flowerforyou smooched smooched


Oh wow, you are being way too generous, as usual. But thank you, Tim smooched


Yeah yeah. I speak the truth and you know it. lol

no photo
Fri 07/24/09 08:44 PM
Anyone who is looking for perfection on a dating site needs their head examined.

PacificStar48's photo
Fri 07/24/09 10:16 PM
This forum keeps tumbeling around in my mind because as in life being on a date site is about how You think people in general percieve you, how you actually percieve yourself, and how most importantly the one you want percieves you.

Self perception can be really tricky. So much factors into that. I have seen people who haven't got a clue how to assess themself. If you ask them to stand in siloette and photographed them in a crowd I would bet 80% could not actually pick themselves out. They are totally oblivious to their own posture, many of their own nervous habits, and how they look from any angle but dead on. Most can not even pick out their own scent or describe it. Have you ever noticed how people always react when they have their characture drawn? Or hear their own voice on a tape recorder? If you have ever been mimiced chances are it is hardly flattering.

I think the idea that most of us are probably going to see our personality wildly different than others do is also pretty typical. It has kind of fallen out of vogue but one of the first things people used to ask at a social mixer was "What's your sign?" Now there is such a pilliferation of personality assessments that you have to ask which one. If you are on more than one site you compare them you would wonder if they are talking about the same person.

I always find it interesting how many people will say how little they care how others percieve them but talk incessantly how they have been repeatedly rejected and how bad it feels. My guess is people care intensely. If not they wouldn't be trying so hard to stand out.

What kind of bugs me is how often people are so way off on how others actually do percieve them. Sometimes people who really care about them; even love them the way they want to be loved. I am thinking about "crushes" but that would also apply to people who cheat. Always looking for someone who is in love with the fantasy person they have created as an alternate persona to themselves. Paticularly sad when a self persception makes a person believe they are "unlovable".


no photo
Sat 07/25/09 06:36 PM
How many people would actually admit that they aren't being 100% themselves right now even if they really weren't. How many would admit to not being totally honest??


I fully an unashamedly admit that I censor myself. I call it being polite.


If someone overestimated my politeness based on my forum posts, and got very attached to that impression, and then came to be a friend (in person), they might feel I had misled them.



In an effort to be " polite ", you choose your words carefully. Rather than say what you would normally say.

But, if you proceed for an extended period of time, that time period being mostly subjective, without letting her know about that particular side of your personality, THEN it would be misleading.

Now, if you were to tell the person who takes an interest in you that you are not always that way, then the issue is moot.


I'm not sure I agree with the idea that its misleading for me to fail to inform potential partners (or partners) of variations like this. There are extreme situations that may evoke different, rarely expressed, aspects of my personality, and I feel under no obligation to notify my partner of each specific type of response. I've known women to be very surprised when it happens, sometimes even amused (because strangers jump to hilariously wrong conclusions about me), but never to feel betrayed by this. They know that the whole of who I am encompasses all their previous experience, and this new unexpected experience.

I tend to ask potential partners a ton of questions, covering a lot of unusual territory; if I don't ask, its not her obligation to tell me. Its not like my purpose in being polite is to trick a potential partner into thinking I'm a 'polite person'. I'm not a polite person, but I do enjoy polite behavior.

I very much agree with the idea that people are wasting their time trying to create a false impression - then they are either going to deny themselves working to maintain that false impression, or she is going to be disappointed/feel betrayed down the line.

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