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Topic: Sigh? Why do they do this?
franshade's photo
Mon 12/28/09 12:04 PM



anytime


legal separation n. a court-decreed right to live apart, with the rights and obligations of divorced persons, but without divorce. The parties are still married and cannot remarry. A spouse may petition for a legal separation usually on the same basis as for a divorce, and include requests for child custody, alimony, child support and division of property

another point,, some people choose the separation without court involvement similar to how some choose to pay support for their child without court involvement

So what you're saying is, I don't know... is that the people are still married, right? Again, spin control.


I dont understand. Where did anyone say differently. I think all have posted that separation is still legal marriage(but with the privileges of divorce).I posted the LEGAL definition, so even the law recognizes different 'states of marriage' as it were.


Not sure where but you did explain it quite rationally in my opinion.

If a person doesn't want to date someone who is separated and or legally separated don't. See problem solved.

If a person thinks a person should be divorced before dating them, great, dont date someone who is not legally divorced. Again problem solved.




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Mon 12/28/09 12:04 PM

I guess I would have to say that with all these thoughts that I am a hypocrite.. lol... Let me explain why I say this.

I am still legally married. I am also legally seperated, for 4 years now. We live in completely different homes an hour away from eachother.

We do not plan to ever live as a married couple again though. I date sometimes but I always tell people that I am legally separated and not divorced.

The whole reason I started this post was because the man was still married, not legally separated and they still live together.




That one is tricky because you dont know the truth about his arrangement. As I said, because my parents worked so hard together for so many years to acquire their home, they both agreed to continue living there even though the relationship ended.

however, this would be very difficult to know for sure and I would say you do the right thing by staying away from that until or unless the person can show they have truly moved on(living by themself).

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Mon 12/28/09 12:07 PM

I guess I would have to say that with all these thoughts that I am a hypocrite.. lol... Let me explain why I say this.

I am still legally married. I am also legally seperated, for 4 years now. We live in completely different homes an hour away from eachother.

We do not plan to ever live as a married couple again though. I date sometimes but I always tell people that I am legally separated and not divorced.

The whole reason I started this post was because the man was still married, not legally separated and they still live together.



Yay, all the married people dating and then will cry foul when another married person approaches them. sick

franshade's photo
Mon 12/28/09 12:07 PM



To the two above, thanks for proving my point of the spin control separated people put on it. Separated Is married. Thank you. drinker

not a very friendly comment, is it? Things in live are not always simple.

Well they did prove my point of the semantics some try to spin on what the truth of a situation is.

And yes, it is that simple. You are either married or you are not. It's called getting a divorce FIRST before continuing on like you are single and calling it a separation. One person said they were "separated" for 8 years. 8 YEARS! How convenient for them to continue to date while married and call it a separation. I, for one, would not drink that Kool Aid if someone fed that to me. But go right ahead.


Why get a divorce first because you say so?? rofl

I said I was separated for over 8 years and this affects you how??? I'd not offer you any KoolAid, might have offered you a cold beer but not partial to KoolAid, so drink it if you like or dont if you'd rather not.

You are free to believe what you'd like to believe, just as I am.

You control yourself, your actions and your beliefs just as the rest of us control ourselves.

Agree, disagree, either way I had a blast while "separated for 8 years", am having a blast now legally "divorce", but had I met you earlier, I'd have gotten a divorce much sooner :laughing: or maybe not biggrin

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 12/28/09 12:08 PM
so it seems from reading the thread that the issue is being LEGALLY divorced????

you can be married or divorced in your mind and heart...just not necessarily by the governments standards


so it's more about a legal issue??

no photo
Mon 12/28/09 12:09 PM

so it seems from reading the thread that the issue is being LEGALLY divorced????

you can be married or divorced in your mind and heart...just not necessarily by the governments standards


so it's more about a legal issue??

for me it's all about the heart

franshade's photo
Mon 12/28/09 12:11 PM

so it seems from reading the thread that the issue is being LEGALLY divorced????

you can be married or divorced in your mind and heart...just not necessarily by the governments standards


so it's more about a legal issue??


not sure if it's about a legal issue anymore, but I am being told I am guilty of spin control, I've been guilty of a lot of things but spin control, heck I can't even ride a bike laugh

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 12/28/09 12:12 PM


so it seems from reading the thread that the issue is being LEGALLY divorced????

you can be married or divorced in your mind and heart...just not necessarily by the governments standards


so it's more about a legal issue??


not sure if it's about a legal issue anymore, but I am being told I am guilty of spin control, I've been guilty of a lot of things but spin control, heck I can't even ride a bike laugh


that seems (to me at least) that it's only about a piece of paper

I see many say that marriage is between 2 people and not the government so shouldn't the same be for divorce?

smilingeyes_976's photo
Mon 12/28/09 12:16 PM


I guess I would have to say that with all these thoughts that I am a hypocrite.. lol... Let me explain why I say this.

I am still legally married. I am also legally seperated, for 4 years now. We live in completely different homes an hour away from eachother.

We do not plan to ever live as a married couple again though. I date sometimes but I always tell people that I am legally separated and not divorced.

The whole reason I started this post was because the man was still married, not legally separated and they still live together.



Yay, all the married people dating and then will cry foul when another married person approaches them. sick


Well, like I said, some will call it hypocritical. I am legally apart from my ex. The only reason I got upset over the thing was because there was no process to become seperated on his end. I did not date for a long time after my separation. I'm not one for rebounding. That's why my profile says I am happy with making friends.

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Mon 12/28/09 12:17 PM




To the two above, thanks for proving my point of the spin control separated people put on it. Separated Is married. Thank you. drinker

not a very friendly comment, is it? Things in live are not always simple.

Well they did prove my point of the semantics some try to spin on what the truth of a situation is.

And yes, it is that simple. You are either married or you are not. It's called getting a divorce FIRST before continuing on like you are single and calling it a separation. One person said they were "separated" for 8 years. 8 YEARS! How convenient for them to continue to date while married and call it a separation. I, for one, would not drink that Kool Aid if someone fed that to me. But go right ahead.


Why get a divorce first because you say so?? rofl

I said I was separated for over 8 years and this affects you how??? I'd not offer you any KoolAid, might have offered you a cold beer but not partial to KoolAid, so drink it if you like or dont if you'd rather not.

You are free to believe what you'd like to believe, just as I am.

You control yourself, your actions and your beliefs just as the rest of us control ourselves.

Agree, disagree, either way I had a blast while "separated for 8 years", am having a blast now legally "divorce", but had I met you earlier, I'd have gotten a divorce much sooner :laughing: or maybe not biggrin


Why bother getting divorced at all if it didn't matter and you were fine with the way things were? You continue to validate what I said about spin control. Cop outs are only good if you get someone to actually believe it.

msharmony's photo
Mon 12/28/09 12:22 PM





To the two above, thanks for proving my point of the spin control separated people put on it. Separated Is married. Thank you. drinker

not a very friendly comment, is it? Things in live are not always simple.

Well they did prove my point of the semantics some try to spin on what the truth of a situation is.

And yes, it is that simple. You are either married or you are not. It's called getting a divorce FIRST before continuing on like you are single and calling it a separation. One person said they were "separated" for 8 years. 8 YEARS! How convenient for them to continue to date while married and call it a separation. I, for one, would not drink that Kool Aid if someone fed that to me. But go right ahead.


Why get a divorce first because you say so?? rofl

I said I was separated for over 8 years and this affects you how??? I'd not offer you any KoolAid, might have offered you a cold beer but not partial to KoolAid, so drink it if you like or dont if you'd rather not.

You are free to believe what you'd like to believe, just as I am.

You control yourself, your actions and your beliefs just as the rest of us control ourselves.

Agree, disagree, either way I had a blast while "separated for 8 years", am having a blast now legally "divorce", but had I met you earlier, I'd have gotten a divorce much sooner :laughing: or maybe not biggrin


Why bother getting divorced at all if it didn't matter and you were fine with the way things were? You continue to validate what I said about spin control. Cop outs are only good if you get someone to actually believe it.



The only benefit I saw in divorce when I Was younger, was in the money it made someone else and in the 'freedom' it afforded me to marry again. Since remarriage was not on my mind AT ALL and I didnt have money to blow,, I chose not to go through the legal system.

Now that I am older, I do not plan to spend a large portion of the remainder of my life alone, so remarriage is a definite and desirable possibility for me. Because of that , divorcing has become a priority before beginning any relationship.

franshade's photo
Mon 12/28/09 12:27 PM





To the two above, thanks for proving my point of the spin control separated people put on it. Separated Is married. Thank you. drinker

not a very friendly comment, is it? Things in live are not always simple.

Well they did prove my point of the semantics some try to spin on what the truth of a situation is.

And yes, it is that simple. You are either married or you are not. It's called getting a divorce FIRST before continuing on like you are single and calling it a separation. One person said they were "separated" for 8 years. 8 YEARS! How convenient for them to continue to date while married and call it a separation. I, for one, would not drink that Kool Aid if someone fed that to me. But go right ahead.


Why get a divorce first because you say so?? rofl

I said I was separated for over 8 years and this affects you how??? I'd not offer you any KoolAid, might have offered you a cold beer but not partial to KoolAid, so drink it if you like or dont if you'd rather not.

You are free to believe what you'd like to believe, just as I am.

You control yourself, your actions and your beliefs just as the rest of us control ourselves.

Agree, disagree, either way I had a blast while "separated for 8 years", am having a blast now legally "divorce", but had I met you earlier, I'd have gotten a divorce much sooner :laughing: or maybe not biggrin


Why bother getting divorced at all if it didn't matter and you were fine with the way things were? You continue to validate what I said about spin control. Cop outs are only good if you get someone to actually believe it.

Because I knew deep down getting a divorce would make you happy rofl I did it for you!!!! :laughing:

The only person I need validation from is the valet at the mall, that way I get free parking :banana:

I am a secure and confident woman Xeno, I live my life to make me happy not the masses, my reasons are just that my reasons. Not meant to make sense to anyone other than myself. I am not here seeking acceptance, if it bothers you, turn away, if it goes against your beliefs, turn away. Control your own actions as you nor anyone else will control mine flowerforyou

But kudos to you for speaking your mind as well and sharing your opinion flowerforyou


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