Topic: flying spaghetti monster
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Mon 12/26/11 04:23 PM
Edited by John8659 on Mon 12/26/11 04:24 PM


The FSM is a masterpiece of parody. Much like the book animal farm was a masterpiece.



We have very different standards of what a masterpiece of literature is. I, for example, consider the terms "masterpiece of parody" to be an oxymoron.

It is not one clown trying to make another look like a fool that is a masterpiece of anything.

Two cripples boasting about the cost of their shoes does not make either of them walk.

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Mon 12/26/11 04:33 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 12/26/11 04:38 PM



The FSM is a masterpiece of parody. Much like the book animal farm was a masterpiece.



We have very different standards of what a masterpiece of literature is. I, for example, consider the terms "masterpiece of parody" to be an oxymoron.

It is not one clown trying to make another look like a fool that is a masterpiece of anything.

Two cripples boasting about the cost of their shoes does not make either of them walk.


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I did not say it was a masterpiece of literature.laugh

It does what it was meant to do.

And people do have different tastes and different kinds of appreciation for things. The FSM project accomplishes more than you might think.

To boot, it is comedy.













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Mon 12/26/11 05:01 PM
Really?

Language is used for the modification of human behavior. One of the tenants of true psycho-linguistics is the use of metaphor to move emotional content to shore up ideas where it is otherwise lacking.

Plato was very good at psycho-linguistics, So was what ever had the Scripture written.

Varying levels of intelligence can process information only to that degree of understanding, and a great deal of that understanding is contingent upon the realities of that person's life.

Well, no matter, I have a vid to view.

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Mon 12/26/11 05:12 PM
Wiki says:

False claims of doubling the cube with compass and straightedge abound in mathematical crank literature (pseudomathematics).

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Mon 12/26/11 05:17 PM
John, what does "Language and Experience" (your essay) have to do with Lucid dreaming?

Another question. Can you summarize the primary purpose of the essay?

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Mon 12/26/11 05:18 PM

Wiki says:

False claims of doubling the cube with compass and straightedge abound in mathematical crank literature (pseudomathematics).


Yes it does, This only shows you did not read The Delian Quest.

Each figure is done both in Geometers Sketchpad, but also Mathcad.

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Mon 12/26/11 05:20 PM

John, what does "Language and Experience" (your essay) have to do with Lucid dreaming?

Another question. Can you summarize the primary purpose of the essay?


Your joking.

Cliffs notes are pending.

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Mon 12/26/11 05:23 PM


Wiki says:

False claims of doubling the cube with compass and straightedge abound in mathematical crank literature (pseudomathematics).


Yes it does, This only shows you did not read The Delian Quest.

Each figure is done both in Geometers Sketchpad, but also Mathcad.


No I didn't. I can't even make sense out of "Language and Experience."So I doubt that I could comprehend that either.

Personally I find no use for that kind of mental gymnastics. I'll leave that kind of work for those who are interested and more suited for it.


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Mon 12/26/11 05:25 PM
Ever heard the lines "line upon line, precept upon precept"?

If you are not willing to walk up a flight of stairs, it is more than rude to ask someone to carry you.

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Mon 12/26/11 05:26 PM


John, what does "Language and Experience" (your essay) have to do with Lucid dreaming?

Another question. Can you summarize the primary purpose of the essay?


Your joking.

Cliffs notes are pending.


Why would I joke?

I asked you about Lucid dreaming and you posted a link to your essay "Language and Experience." I don't think we are talking about the same thing.

But I would still like you to summarize or simplify your purpose of the essay.

As in: What is its purpose?


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Mon 12/26/11 05:28 PM

Ever heard the lines "line upon line, precept upon precept"?

If you are not willing to walk up a flight of stairs, it is more than rude to ask someone to carry you.


Well I'm certainly sorry I asked you to simplify or explain to me the purpose of your essay. Maybe it has no purpose.



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Mon 12/26/11 05:34 PM
Edited by John8659 on Mon 12/26/11 05:34 PM
Maybe it does not. If it did, it would have a life of its own. Perhaps the purpose is mine.

You asked about Lucid Dreaming, I will say this. One of the things one is constantly confronted with while learning there, is ones own emotional response. One cannot progress until they master it. The same is true of reading a book.

When I started by Study of the Yoga Sutra's as presented by I.K. Tiamni, it made me ill.

When I started my study of Plato, it made my head swim in wonderment.

If you cannot master your own emotional response, you will forever remain in the dark.

Running to children's work that amuse you, is not a good way to learn anything.

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Mon 12/26/11 05:41 PM

Maybe it does not. If it did, it would have a life of its own. Perhaps the purpose is mine.

You asked about Lucid Dreaming, I will say this. One of the things one is constantly confronted with while learning there, is ones own emotional response. One cannot progress until they master it. The same is true of reading a book.

When I started by Study of the Yoga Sutra's as presented by I.K. Tiamni, it made me ill.

When I started my study of Plato, it made my head swim in wonderment.

If you cannot master your own emotional response, you will forever remain in the dark.

Running to children's work that amuse you, is not a good way to learn anything.

Children's literature can actually be a very good learning tool. Consider Aesop's fables and the rather voluminous body of adult literature that has been adapted for children (such as bible stories). I know an author who write juvenile fiction, and it can be quite good.

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Mon 12/26/11 06:03 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 12/26/11 06:06 PM

Maybe it does not. If it did, it would have a life of its own. Perhaps the purpose is mine.


Yes that is what I meant. What was/is your purpose in writing that essay?

You asked about Lucid Dreaming, I will say this. One of the things one is constantly confronted with while learning there, is ones own emotional response. One cannot progress until they master it. The same is true of reading a book.


What would you know about anyone's emotional response and what does that have to do with lucid dreaming?


When I started by Study of the Yoga Sutra's as presented by I.K. Tiamni, it made me ill.

When I started my study of Plato, it made my head swim in wonderment.

If you cannot master your own emotional response, you will forever remain in the dark.


I have a perfect awareness of my own emotional responses and I master them them just fine, so I don't know why you keep assuming, and bringing "emotional response" up.

Can you just answer my question? If not, fine.

Running to children's work that amuse you, is not a good way to learn anything.


(I don't know what you are talking about with that remark.)

I have simply asked you what YOUR purpose was in writing that essay.

NOTHING MORE.

A simple question.




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Mon 12/26/11 06:08 PM
When I go to a restaurant, and food is placed in front of me, I would consider myself to be a complete idiot if I asked, "What does it taste like?"



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Mon 12/26/11 06:18 PM
If I wrote something, a book, or essay I certainly think I know myself enough to be aware of my purpose for writing it. But mostly I think I write it for myself and for anyone who might understand it and get something out of it.

I believe yours is the same purpose.


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Mon 12/26/11 06:24 PM
Edited by John8659 on Mon 12/26/11 06:25 PM
Actually, I post because I am looking for someone. I am just making it more possible for them to find me.

She will not know me by looks, but she will know me by mind.

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Mon 12/26/11 06:49 PM

Actually, I post because I am looking for someone. I am just making it more possible for them to find me.

She will not know me by looks, but she will know me by mind.


Good luck with that, seriously. But I was not referring to your posts, but to your essay.


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Mon 12/26/11 08:50 PM
My posts are not what I do here, but the work I put on the net. This site seems to be a lost cause.

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Mon 12/26/11 09:30 PM

My posts are not what I do here, but the work I put on the net. This site seems to be a lost cause.


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You may be right about that. Not many philosophers here. Or scientists. laugh