...five minutes ago I can check with the author.

HUGE difference.

The Holy Spirit Indwelling a Beleiver , is the ONLY One

Who is ABLE to gives us the CORRECT Interprettion, Sin_and_Sorrow.

Anything else is just man's opinion only .


The Holy Sprit INDWELLING beleivers (believers... meaning those who

are born again ) now teaches , guides ,and leads all believers into

ALL TRUTH NOW.

No more just quessing .

..yeah. Mkay.

Do you check with the author of everything you read to verify that you have understood them correctly?

...can't help but denote the hypocrisy of this statement.

You seemed confused and I explained it to you. I didn't say you have to believe it.

If I'm going to 'obey' and commit 'sacrifices' for what the book says is going to happen if I don't, you bet'cher booty.

Not that.
I wasn't arguing that point..

You cut my response in half.

I was pointing out something, but apparently that was widely missed.

-.-

There wasn't anything to say to that, since I knew that.

Call that question in the half you took it from rhetorical if you wish.

Sacrifices were done away with after Jesus died on the cross, so that's not a issue. You have free will, you have the right to "obey" whomever you choose to obey, just as everyone else.

...Whoa, hold up a second.

Are you telling me that I can go out and maim whomever I so desire. Rape whomever I so desire. Burn down villages and towns, massacre thousands and create my own Holocaust.

..but so long as I do it and regret it, pray for my sins, what have you before I perish.. I'll be fine?

Seriously?

When we say persons, we don;t mean HUMAN persons, Sin_and_Sorrow....

Persons is a term used to descibe the 3 distinctions (Father,

Son, Holy Spirit )WITHIN ONE SUPREME BEING.


There is ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING...or ONE ENTITY...NOT 3

supreme beings or 3 entities...

hence the reason we say persons, in order to show we are not

talking about 3 separate entities..but 3 separate persons

IN ONE GOD ...or ONE ENTITY..or ONE SUPREME BEING .

Okay...



I'll point you to the definition of "person" used in philosophy: "a self-conscious or rational being." That aptly describes God, spirits, etc. Heck, on Star Trek, they call every intelligent alien a "person".

...and what's that supposed to mean?

I just said he worded it confusingly.
Didn't say he was flat out wrong.

Just like you took my post and totally brushed it off like I...
...agreed with you both? o.o

Man..

I'm really confused now.

-.-

NO beleiver can BOAST....simply because NO beleiver is able

to give the correct Interpretation...it is ONLY THE HOLY SPIRIT

INDWELLING US , WHO IS ABLE TO GIVE THE CORRECT INTERPRETATION THRU US.

AGAIN.....NOT US GIVING INTERPRETATION!!!

BUT ONLY THE HOLY SPIRIT INDWELLING ALL BELEIVERS NOW, IS THE

ONE WHO GIVES US THE CORRECT INTERPRETATION.

Ah, I see you get it now. :X
That is, what I was originally intending.




Well, if we define everything in philosophy, then yes, the word 'entity' would be wrong to call or refer to God as and I would wholeheartedly agree with you that 'persons' would be ultimately, but not only, viable but also correct.

However, at the same time, I wasn't originally speaking in 'philosophy' tongue. Mainly because, I doubt that Cowboy nor Morning were either.

Hey, I could be wrong though!

But, so very true. I got so used to 'watching' what words I use, since someone chews me alive for using certain words; I didn't think of it that way.

..wth?

You both were just boasting that you're interpretation is right. Cowboy is wrong and an infidel. Yet if he too is a believer, you are a believer, she was a believer, and my old priest was a believer..

..yet all give me contradicting views..

..that means the Holy Spirit is utterly baffled and confused Himself.

So.....?

Not only that, those 'without' this Spirit are considered what?

I want to believe, but I can't.
Because the type of debate, the type of answers I seek..

I gave up trying to get them from mortals.
(lol, yeah, I said mortals)

..maybe it's God's fault, maybe it's not.
..maybe no one can even give me an answer save him.

Well, I said nothing of the sort, I'm not really sure how you got that out of my post. But basically, yes I do believe that. If you honestly repent of your sins you can be forgiven.

How is murder or rape worse than lying? I'll give you an example and you tell me which is worse.

a) W.D. kills a hooker by stabbing her through the heart.

b) W.D. lies in a newspaper article that he's writing.

Which is worse? I'm sure you are saying "a", but if we are talking about total number of people killed, then the correct answer is "b".

Walter Duranty was the worlds most respected journalist. He went to Russia when Stalin was in charge. There were reports that Stalin was killing his own citizens, Walter Duranty would find out. Stalin was intentionally starving the Ukrainian people in an effort to reduce the number of people in Russia. Communism distributes wealth, it doesn't create wealth. So Stalin needed to kill people so that he would have the wealth and resources to reward other people. Walter Duranty looked around at a landscape where millions were starving and dying and wrote that there was nothing of the sort happening. Upwards of 50 million people died in the famine, which was enabled by his willing lie, since he was a Stalin supporter. Reporters who told the truth were called liars and in some cases lost their jobs, because the worlds most respected Journalist said otherwise. In this case, the lie was definitely worse than the murder in my opinion.

If God can forgive the liar, why not the murderer? Why not the rapist?

..you didn't say it exactly, but hinted at it when you said 'free will' and 'to obey whomever you choose'.

To me, that's saying, literally WHO ever. Whether that be my own insane agenda or that of a tyrant, like say Hitler.



At first, yeah, I would've said the first; however, the example points out how that perception is or at least can be entirely wrong.

..but if forgives any and all no matter what atrocities they engage in on this realm; why threaten with the ideas of Heaven's opposite?

And again, I find myself confused...

If I serve God loyally my whole life, die, find myself in Heaven sharing a bunk bed with Hitler...

...who does that seem right or fair by any means?

God Almighty IS ONLY ONE ENTITY.....


are in other words,

GOD ALMIGHTY IS ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING.


But again..there are 3 separate Persons WITHIN that ONE SUPREME

BEING ..., or in other words, that ONE ENTITY.


THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD.

ONE SUPREME BEING.

ONE ENTITY.

ONE GOD ALMIGHTY .

M.S.: I have a few issues with this perspective, if you'll grant me the time...

If the Bible (let alone the countless other "holy texts" which exist) are "not supposed to make sense" until "GOD FIRST DRAWS US" but "WHEN GOD DOES , THEN AlL OF A SUDDEN WE

START TO HUNGER FOR THE WORD..AND WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH...WHEREAS

WE NEVER DID BEFORE...."

then they are of little use to the common man. If I were the CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE and had a particular interest in a species of hominids on an unassuming planet in a nondescript galaxy (one of BILLIONS which I had created in that first week) then I would make it a priority that all these "Humans" with their vast array of cultures and belief systems... I'd make myself known to all of them (not just a particular tribe of illiterate desert-dwellers), since I'm supposed to love them all... surely my Intervention would spare centuries of bloodshed?!