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Topic: The Problem With Evolution?
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Thu 02/09/12 04:24 PM

At first, yeah, I would've said the first; however, the example points out how that perception is or at least can be entirely wrong.

..but if forgives any and all no matter what atrocities they engage in on this realm; why threaten with the ideas of Heaven's opposite?

And again, I find myself confused...

If I serve God loyally my whole life, die, find myself in Heaven sharing a bunk bed with Hitler...

...who does that seem right or fair by any means?


I'll point you to the parable of the Vineyard as spoken by Jesus


For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard. And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard. And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace, And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way. Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise. And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle? They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive. So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first. And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny. But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny. And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house, Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day. But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny? Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee. Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good? So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

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Thu 02/09/12 04:25 PM

God Almighty IS ONLY ONE ENTITY.....GOD Almighty IS

ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING.


But again..there are 3 separate Persons WITHIN that ONE SUPREME

BEING ...that ONE ENTITY.


THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD.

ONE SUPREME BEING.

ONE ENTITY.

ONE GOD ALMIGHTY .




See Spider?

Now how do I take this statement?

If person is used philosophical, then so must entity.

Therefore, that would nullify 'person' in being used properly.

..or is my perception of such wrong?

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Thu 02/09/12 04:28 PM

See Spider?

Now how do I take this statement?

If person is used philosophical, then so must entity.

Therefore, that would nullify 'person' in being used properly.

..or is my perception of such wrong?


What definition of entity are you using? The correct one is "being, existence; especially : independent, separate, or self-contained existence "

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Thu 02/09/12 04:34 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Thu 02/09/12 04:54 PM
ApertureScience....God placed a certain MEASURE OF

FAITH, in EVERY SINGLE LIVING SOUL....

That applies to all people in EVERY culture.


But also, along with a measure of faith given to every man, God

also DRAWS man unto him., at the appropiate time.


One way God DRAWS man unto Him, is by the HEARING of His Word.

flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou

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Thu 02/09/12 04:51 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Thu 02/09/12 04:52 PM




The Holy Spirit Indwelling a Beleiver , is the ONLY One

Who is ABLE to gives us the CORRECT Interprettion, Sin_and_Sorrow.

Anything else is just man's opinion only .


The Holy Sprit INDWELLING beleivers (believers... meaning those who

are born again ) now teaches , guides ,and leads all believers into

ALL TRUTH NOW.

No more just quessing .



...can't help but denote the hypocrisy of this statement.



NO beleiver can BOAST....simply because NO beleiver is able

to give the correct Interpretation...it is ONLY THE HOLY SPIRIT

INDWELLING US , WHO IS ABLE TO GIVE THE CORRECT INTERPRETATION THRU US.

AGAIN.....NOT US GIVING INTERPRETATION!!!

BUT ONLY THE HOLY SPIRIT INDWELLING ALL BELEIVERS NOW, IS THE

ONE WHO GIVES US THE CORRECT INTERPRETATION.


..wth?

You both were just boasting that you're interpretation is right. Cowboy is wrong and an infidel. Yet if he too is a believer, you are a believer, she was a believer, and my old priest was a believer..

..yet all give me contradicting views..

..that means the Holy Spirit is utterly baffled and confused Himself.

So.....?

Not only that, those 'without' this Spirit are considered what?

I want to believe, but I can't.
Because the type of debate, the type of answers I seek..

I gave up trying to get them from mortals.
(lol, yeah, I said mortals)

..maybe it's God's fault, maybe it's not.
..maybe no one can even give me an answer save him.





ALL BelIevers AGREE....because ALL BELIEVERS ARE

INDWELt BY THE SAME HOLY SPRIT.

HOWEVER.... not All who SAY they are beleivers, ARE actually

believers at all.



True Believers are INDWELT by the SAME Holy Spirit ...and are

taught and lead by the SAME Holy Spirit....and therefore,

this is WHY ALL TRUE BELIEVCERS AGREE ........and there is

therefore NO CONFUSIOM among TRUE Believers.


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Thu 02/09/12 04:56 PM


See Spider?

Now how do I take this statement?

If person is used philosophical, then so must entity.

Therefore, that would nullify 'person' in being used properly.

..or is my perception of such wrong?


What definition of entity are you using? The correct one is "being, existence; especially : independent, separate, or self-contained existence "


..is that philosophy's definition or Websters?

Cause it's not worded like that in mine.
Because your definition lacks the word 'real'.
A real existence would nullify the concept of faith, because he would then have a substance; a substance that could no longer be doubted by any.

..if it's Websters, that would mean persons would also have to be defined by Websters, and thus, nullifying the entire statement because then he would be humanized.

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Thu 02/09/12 05:03 PM


and there is

therefore NO CONFUSIOM among TRUE Believers.




If said statement was true..
Why are there so many differing opinions between Catholics?

That's so false, it's not even worth the effort it would take me to mutter a response.

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Thu 02/09/12 05:06 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Thu 02/09/12 05:08 PM


God Almighty IS ONLY ONE ENTITY.....GOD Almighty IS

ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING.


But again..there are 3 separate Persons WITHIN that ONE SUPREME

BEING ...that ONE ENTITY.


THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD.

ONE SUPREME BEING.

ONE ENTITY.

ONE GOD ALMIGHTY .




See Spider?

Now how do I take this statement?

If person is used philosophical, then so must entity.

Therefore, that would nullify 'person' in being used properly.

..or is my perception of such wrong?




Sin_and_Sorrow...God is 3 Persons WITHIN ONE ENTITY.


3 persons making up ONLY ONE ENTITY (or, ONE SUPREME BEING).

God is NOT 3 entities.


BUT ONLY ONE ENTITY.

or

ONE SUPREME BEING.


Sin_andSorrow.....you are ONE human being, consisting of body, soul, spirit.

Now, just because you are a tri-une being(consisting of 3

distinctions ... body, soul and sprit,) does that make you 3 human beings?

No...just ONE human being.


God ALSO is TRI_UNE....God the Father, God the Son ,and God the Holy

Spirit are the 3 Separate Persons(distinctions) WITHIN ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING.

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Thu 02/09/12 05:06 PM


At first, yeah, I would've said the first; however, the example points out how that perception is or at least can be entirely wrong.

..but if forgives any and all no matter what atrocities they engage in on this realm; why threaten with the ideas of Heaven's opposite?

And again, I find myself confused...

If I serve God loyally my whole life, die, find myself in Heaven sharing a bunk bed with Hitler...

...who does that seem right or fair by any means?


I'll point you to the parable of the Vineyard as spoken by Jesus


For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard. And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard. And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace, And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way. Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise. And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle? They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive. So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first. And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny. But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny. And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house, Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day. But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny? Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee. Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good? So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.



So basically..

Eff you for busting yo' anus all those years.
Should've just slacked off and waited to do it all in the end.

..the result is the same.

Nice.

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Thu 02/09/12 05:07 PM

Locking this up. The General religion forum is open to all religions. Proselytizing is not permitted.

Regards,
Mark

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