Topic: Breast Cancer Prevention...low carb diet!
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Thu 03/22/12 07:26 AM
Edited by Spidercmb on Thu 03/22/12 07:31 AM
Breast Cancer Prevention - Part Time Low Carb Diet Better Than Standard Full Time Diets


Women who go on a low carb diet just two days per week have a lower risk of developing breast cancer compared to those who follow a standard calorie-restricted diet every day of the week, in order to lose weight and lower their insulin blood levels. Long-term high blood insulin levels are known to raise cancer risk. These findings were presented by scientists from Genesis Prevention Center at University Hospital in South Manchester, England, at the 2011 CTRC-AACR San Antonio Breast Cancer Symposium.


Cancer cells can only live off of glucose for energy, but most cells in your body can use glucose or ketones for energy. On a low carb diet, your blood sugar drops to a very low level and your body instead uses ketones for most of your energy needs. Anthropologists have found no evidence of cancer prior to the advent of farming. Eqyptian mummies in particular are riddled with cancer (and heart disease and obesity). Carbohydrates feed cancer, fat and protein starve cancer.

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Thu 03/22/12 07:48 AM
VERY interesting.

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Thu 03/22/12 08:37 AM
Yes, very interesting.

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Thu 03/22/12 09:09 AM
Edited by Spidercmb on Thu 03/22/12 09:14 AM

My mom does high fiber carbs but maybe an elimination would be better.

Since youre on a low carb diet, what have you found to be most challenging, and what foods/products have helped bridge the no carb path?


As for Fiber, here is how you figure it out.

Total Carbs - Fiber - Sugar Alcohols (if it doesn't say "Sugar Alcohols", then it's just normal sugar, so you shouldn't subtract it) = net carbs.

I try to keep my net carbs around 30 for the day, eating no more than 10 carbs a meal.

The most challenging part is not eating carbs. laugh They are very addictive. The best thing to do is to keep yourself stuffed for the first two weeks. Eat meat, eggs and (low carb) veggies until they are coming out of your ears, so that you don't give in to cravings. After the first two weeks, it's fairly easy to resist the cravings. The first two days are the worst, but headaches, blurry vision, weakness, tiredness are all NORMAL for the first two weeks.

Drink lots of water! Here's a trick to know if you are drinking enough water: Look at the color of your urine when you first wake up. If it's not completely clear or almost completely clear, you aren't drinking enough water.

Oh and your breath and urine might smell bad (or just strange) for the first two weeks or so. Your body makes all those ketones and has to expel them until your cells figure out how to use them. This is great, because ketones are made out of fat, so you are literally expelling body fat.

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Thu 03/22/12 09:10 AM
This is just one study. If you look online, you'll find dozens of others that also support a low carb diet as a way of fighting cancer.

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Thu 03/22/12 09:14 AM
"The China Study" by T. Colin Campbell and his son, Thomas Campbell, cites a lot more studies on nutrition and the role nutrition plays in health, including preventing cancer.

You don't need to monitor your carbohydrates; doing so causes you to miss out on good nutrition.

What you do need to do is eat a plant based, whole foods diet, eliminating as much animal fat and protein as you possibly can.

I'm not Prof. Campbell or his son, Dr. Campbell, so I'm not going to spout off like I know everything about nutrition just because I read their book, but having read the book, I am very convinced by the research they cite.

The most convincing part of "The China Study", for me, was the sheer number of studies, lab tests, peer reviewed journals, etcetera, that were used to compile the evidence on nutrition that the book presents. This isn't a theory or diet that the Campbells are advocating; it is a lifestyle, one that has conclusively, irrefutably proven to extend life, prevent disease and greatly improve health.

The Campbells will not make money off of you if you change your nutrition; in fact, if you make it your lifestyle, eating a plant based, whole foods diet won't profit any corporation at all. It can only help your local produce growers.

Before anyone makes any changes in their diet, I would highly recommend them reading this book, or even just browsing it at a bookstore. If you don't find the evidence compelling, then by all means, eat what you want.

For me, a midwestern farm boy raised on beef, chicken, pork, venison, rabbit and duck, I never thought for one second I'd go vegetarian...this book changed that, all by itself. I don't eat veggies for the animal's sake, I eat only plants because I want to live.

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Thu 03/22/12 09:15 AM
Have not read the study, and do not have an opinion. However make sure to understand this was a prelim study, 80% of which turn out to have spurious results.

The researchers stressed that a larger, longer-term additional study is required.
The researchers acknowledge this point.

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Thu 03/22/12 09:22 AM

You don't need to monitor your carbohydrates; doing so causes you to miss out on good nutrition.


What nutrient comes from high carb foods, but can't be found in low carb foods?

A cup and a half of broccoli has as many carbs as three french fries...

A slice of wheat toast has a higher glycemic index than table sugar (71 vs 65). That means there is more sugar in a slice of the supposedly healthy wheat toast than there is in the same amount of sugar.

As for your statement about fat and protein...you couldn't be more wrong. A high fat diet (assuming you eat healthy fats) is FAR better than a low fat diet.

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Thu 03/22/12 09:43 AM

"The China Study" by T. Colin Campbell and his son, Thomas Campbell, cites a lot more studies on nutrition and the role nutrition plays in health, including preventing cancer.

You don't need to monitor your carbohydrates; doing so causes you to miss out on good nutrition.

What you do need to do is eat a plant based, whole foods diet, eliminating as much animal fat and protein as you possibly can.

I'm not Prof. Campbell or his son, Dr. Campbell, so I'm not going to spout off like I know everything about nutrition just because I read their book, but having read the book, I am very convinced by the research they cite.

The most convincing part of "The China Study", for me, was the sheer number of studies, lab tests, peer reviewed journals, etcetera, that were used to compile the evidence on nutrition that the book presents. This isn't a theory or diet that the Campbells are advocating; it is a lifestyle, one that has conclusively, irrefutably proven to extend life, prevent disease and greatly improve health.

The Campbells will not make money off of you if you change your nutrition; in fact, if you make it your lifestyle, eating a plant based, whole foods diet won't profit any corporation at all. It can only help your local produce growers.

Before anyone makes any changes in their diet, I would highly recommend them reading this book, or even just browsing it at a bookstore. If you don't find the evidence compelling, then by all means, eat what you want.

For me, a midwestern farm boy raised on beef, chicken, pork, venison, rabbit and duck, I never thought for one second I'd go vegetarian...this book changed that, all by itself. I don't eat veggies for the animal's sake, I eat only plants because I want to live.


My main problem with this? They are claiming that humans are the only animals on the planet who evolved to crave foods that will kill them. Throughout the majority of human existence, we ate a diet primarily of fatty meat, eggs, nuts, veggies and the occasional fruit.

You should check out what Dr Eades has to say about the China Study.

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Thu 03/22/12 09:51 AM

"The China Study" by T. Colin Campbell and his son, Thomas Campbell, cites a lot more studies on nutrition and the role nutrition plays in health, including preventing cancer.

You don't need to monitor your carbohydrates; doing so causes you to miss out on good nutrition.

What you do need to do is eat a plant based, whole foods diet, eliminating as much animal fat and protein as you possibly can.




I did this and was vegetarian for almost a year. It was the worst year for me health-wise ever. I got really sick by the of the year and I had missed so much work I was going unpaid days at a time.

My doctor told me to eat meat and up my protein to 100 grams a day. I started feeling better within 2 days.

I'm sure some people do well on these plant based, whole food, vegetarian diets. But I know more people who do well on low carb diets.

Just my .02.

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Thu 03/22/12 10:57 AM
I have severe hypoglycemia (low blood sugar)
and were it not for a low-carb diet, I would be lost.
Reactive hypoglycemia is triggered by carbs.
I have to eat a high protein diet or die.
Carbs make me deathly sick, and put my blood
sugar in the comatose area.

Of course I eat carbs.
But VERY carefully.
Fat also seems to make me feel better.
Beef holds blood sugar levels steady the longest,
all other proteins to a lesser degree, for me.

The only food recommended for keeping blood sugar
levels steady for hyperglycemics (diabetics) AND
hypoglycemics, is peanuts.

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Thu 03/22/12 11:09 AM

I have severe hypoglycemia (low blood sugar)
and were it not for a low-carb diet, I would be lost.
Reactive hypoglycemia is triggered by carbs.
I have to eat a high protein diet or die.
Carbs make me deathly sick, and put my blood
sugar in the comatose area.

Of course I eat carbs.
But VERY carefully.
Fat also seems to make me feel better.
Beef holds blood sugar levels steady the longest,
all other proteins to a lesser degree, for me.

The only food recommended for keeping blood sugar
levels steady for hyperglycemics (diabetics) AND
hypoglycemics, is peanuts.


You can get calories from any of three different sources (carbohydrates, fat, protein), each has a different effect on blood sugar.

Carbohydrates: Spikes blood sugar, causes body to produce insulin.
Protein: Moderate rise to blood sugar, causes body to produce insulin and glucagon (anti-insulin) in equal measure.
Fat: No effect on blood sugar.

Out of the three sources of calories, fat is the healthiest for the human body. Fat doesn't raise your blood sugar, can't make you gain weight (insulin tells your body to store calories as fat) and it doesn't make your pancreas have to work itself to beta-cell burnout (like carbs can).

Not to mention that fat usually comes with cholesterol and cholesterol is a necessary component of sex hormones. :wink:

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Thu 03/22/12 11:34 AM
That feels right.
I know my doctor ORDERED me to up the fats :-)

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Thu 03/22/12 12:42 PM

That feels right.
I know my doctor ORDERED me to up the fats :-)


yeah, for me, too.

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Thu 03/22/12 03:12 PM
Nice thread. drinker I've been on a low carb diet for a long time. My trainer had me add a lot more protein to my diet and cut simple carbs even further. It helps me gain lean mass and gives me energy. :banana: smokin

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Thu 03/22/12 04:01 PM
What a bunch of crap!

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Thu 03/22/12 04:18 PM

What a bunch of crap!


You always have so much to add to the discussions.

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Thu 03/22/12 09:04 PM
cut your milk carbs in half

1% 2% whole milk are all 13 grams carbs per serving

buy whole milk and water it down by half

tastes just 2% except for the fluoride

and its half the carbs

Bushidobillyclub and JERMANICUS wont agree tho

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Tue 03/27/12 02:00 PM
Edited by volant7 on Tue 03/27/12 02:17 PM
get water kefir water + sugar not that hard if you use it everyday

give some to your friends and have a failsafe system

look what i found

acs says aspertame is safe lol


http://www.cancer.org/Cancer/CancerCauses/OtherCarcinogens/AtHome/aspartame

im still looking for the one where hitler says lead and smoking are part of a healty diet lol


even more lies here

http://www.cancer.org/Cancer/CancerCauses/SunandUVExposure/SkinCancerPreventionandEarlyDetection/skin-cancer-prevention-and-early-detection-what-is-u-v-radiation

UVA rays cause cells to age and can cause some damage to cells' DNA. They are linked to long-term skin damage such as wrinkles, but are also thought to play a role in some skin cancers.

UVB rays can cause direct damage to the DNA, and are the main rays that cause sunburns. They are also thought to cause most skin cancers.

UVA is more responsible for cancer

UVB give you a tan and naturally protect you from cancer

sun blocks stop uvb but not uva

so does glass

you cant get a tan trough glass but it increases your risk of cancer

get 15-30 min of full sun a day after that cover up or go in the shade