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LOL You are funny jean. I can't be a pawn in this game because the playing field doesn't even have pawns anymore...lol Except for those who believe there are pawns and they themselves are the little pawns holding their little rifles to a missile being dropped on their head. The playing field is now, the government is way more powerful than the people in firepower, no way around that. I know it, I accept it. No need to fear what is done and cannot be undone. The gun owners buy guns out of fear. Fear is not a healthy state of mind. If they believe it is to fight the government they are really out of their minds. The government really has no problem with the little private owners. That is why they have been allowed to have their guns this long. They have no problem eliminating the issue if one arises. It is those of us, who are tired of the fearful (mentally unwell) gun owners or their relatives getting their guns and shooting up innocent people that have a problem with it. You have given up. You have been beaten. I feel sorry for you, really I do. You are a servant and a slave of whatever world government comes into power. You have no freedom. You have given away your power. The government is nothing without the support of the people. Don't you know that? The people provide their sons and daughters to go to war for the government. So you really think that the people's sons and daughters are going to drop missiles on their own people? Really? Do you really believe that? Well if it is true, then what are they doing to our sons and daughters? Tis a dark world you are creating. |
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Edited by
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Actually, you don't have a "right not to get shot." You have an inalienable right to "life," but it doesn't say a long life, a happy life, or even a pain free life. That is just something an individual implies because of an over inflated feeling of self worth. Grow up. Bad things happen, evil people exist, but the majority of the people walking this planet are mainly harmless. We have to stop making our laws and regulations as an adjustment for the least common denominator. Beg to disagree with part of it and that part is that WE AS A PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY DO OWE THE CHILDREN THE RIGHT NOT TO BE MOWED DOWN IN CLASS. It is a right our children should have. And the least common denominator is the gun owner. 40 percent of the country are legally armed. They are the lessor fearful ones. We need to stop the availability of guns to those who are not mentally capable of having one and sadly because they are scared enough to need a gun most gun owners would be mentally not well enough to have one. The right not to be shot should supersede the right to fearful shooters to shoot. We don't owe the children a god damn thing!! They don't vote, they don't pay taxes and they sure as hell don't contribute to society. This is not a country of children. I don't want this nation to have "child safe" as the standard of living, and the concept of it is ludicrous at best. Society is for those that survived childhood. I'm not responsible for YOUR children. YOU ARE!!! You have the responsibility to them, not the state. You want the state to be responsible? Then do it the right way. Remove all children from their parents at age 3, lock them away in federally sponsored orphanages and don't release them until they are adults. Until you are willing to do that, don't come crying to me about "the children." You had them, you raise them. It's bad enough we give "parents" tax breaks. You're rights also don't supersede mine. That's why they are called "rights." We all have them. You have a right to a gun same as me, you just don't choose to exercise it. How about we take away the right to vote for parents? Leave responsible decisions to the folks who can still think rationally and without worrying about "the children." That makes a lot more sense to me.    We don't owe the children a god damn thing!! They don't vote, they don't pay taxes and they sure as hell don't contribute to society. This is not a country of children. I don't want this nation to have "child safe" as the standard of living, and the concept of it is ludicrous at best. |
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LOL You are funny jean. I can't be a pawn in this game because the playing field doesn't even have pawns anymore...lol Except for those who believe there are pawns and they themselves are the little pawns holding their little rifles to a missile being dropped on their head. The playing field is now, the government is way more powerful than the people in firepower, no way around that. I know it, I accept it. No need to fear what is done and cannot be undone. The gun owners buy guns out of fear. Fear is not a healthy state of mind. If they believe it is to fight the government they are really out of their minds. The government really has no problem with the little private owners. That is why they have been allowed to have their guns this long. They have no problem eliminating the issue if one arises. It is those of us, who are tired of the fearful (mentally unwell) gun owners or their relatives getting their guns and shooting up innocent people that have a problem with it. You have given up. You have been beaten. I feel sorry for you, really I do. You are a servant and a slave of whatever world government comes into power. You have no freedom. You have given away your power. The government is nothing without the support of the people. Don't you know that? The people provide their sons and daughters to go to war for the government. So you really think that the people's sons and daughters are going to drop missiles on their own people? Really? Do you really believe that? Well if it is true, then what are they doing to our sons and daughters? Tis a dark world you are creating. I am the free one....lol I saw the wall and instead of beating my head up against it as gun fanatics are doing I flew around it. The wall still exists but I know how to live well with it there. |
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Actually, you don't have a "right not to get shot." You have an inalienable right to "life," but it doesn't say a long life, a happy life, or even a pain free life. That is just something an individual implies because of an over inflated feeling of self worth. Grow up. Bad things happen, evil people exist, but the majority of the people walking this planet are mainly harmless. We have to stop making our laws and regulations as an adjustment for the least common denominator. Beg to disagree with part of it and that part is that WE AS A PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY DO OWE THE CHILDREN THE RIGHT NOT TO BE MOWED DOWN IN CLASS. It is a right our children should have. And the least common denominator is the gun owner. 40 percent of the country are legally armed. They are the lessor fearful ones. We need to stop the availability of guns to those who are not mentally capable of having one and sadly because they are scared enough to need a gun most gun owners would be mentally not well enough to have one. The right not to be shot should supersede the right to fearful shooters to shoot. We don't owe the children a god damn thing!! They don't vote, they don't pay taxes and they sure as hell don't contribute to society. This is not a country of children. I don't want this nation to have "child safe" as the standard of living, and the concept of it is ludicrous at best. Society is for those that survived childhood. I'm not responsible for YOUR children. YOU ARE!!! You have the responsibility to them, not the state. You want the state to be responsible? Then do it the right way. Remove all children from their parents at age 3, lock them away in federally sponsored orphanages and don't release them until they are adults. Until you are willing to do that, don't come crying to me about "the children." You had them, you raise them. It's bad enough we give "parents" tax breaks. You're rights also don't supersede mine. That's why they are called "rights." We all have them. You have a right to a gun same as me, you just don't choose to exercise it. How about we take away the right to vote for parents? Leave responsible decisions to the folks who can still think rationally and without worrying about "the children." That makes a lot more sense to me. We don't owe the children a god damn thing!! They don't vote, they don't pay taxes and they sure as hell don't contribute to society. This is not a country of children. I don't want this nation to have "child safe" as the standard of living, and the concept of it is ludicrous at best. So now your true color shows eh? Good show it...it is the way to free you and us. |
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Edited by
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LOL You are funny jean. I can't be a pawn in this game because the playing field doesn't even have pawns anymore...lol Except for those who believe there are pawns and they themselves are the little pawns holding their little rifles to a missile being dropped on their head. The playing field is now, the government is way more powerful than the people in firepower, no way around that. I know it, I accept it. No need to fear what is done and cannot be undone. The gun owners buy guns out of fear. Fear is not a healthy state of mind. If they believe it is to fight the government they are really out of their minds. The government really has no problem with the little private owners. That is why they have been allowed to have their guns this long. They have no problem eliminating the issue if one arises. It is those of us, who are tired of the fearful (mentally unwell) gun owners or their relatives getting their guns and shooting up innocent people that have a problem with it. You have given up. You have been beaten. I feel sorry for you, really I do. You are a servant and a slave of whatever world government comes into power. You have no freedom. You have given away your power. The government is nothing without the support of the people. Don't you know that? The people provide their sons and daughters to go to war for the government. So you really think that the people's sons and daughters are going to drop missiles on their own people? Really? Do you really believe that? Well if it is true, then what are they doing to our sons and daughters? Tis a dark world you are creating. I am the free one....lol I saw the wall and instead of beating my head up against it as gun fanatics are doing I flew around it. The wall still exists but I know how to live well with it there. I saw a wall too! It had 53,000 names on it of brothers and sisters who thought our 2nd amendment rights were worth dying for. The 1st amendment (which they also died for) says you have a right to your opinion, but does NOT give you the right to think you can impose it on others! |
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LOL You are funny jean. I can't be a pawn in this game because the playing field doesn't even have pawns anymore...lol Except for those who believe there are pawns and they themselves are the little pawns holding their little rifles to a missile being dropped on their head. The playing field is now, the government is way more powerful than the people in firepower, no way around that. I know it, I accept it. No need to fear what is done and cannot be undone. The gun owners buy guns out of fear. Fear is not a healthy state of mind. If they believe it is to fight the government they are really out of their minds. The government really has no problem with the little private owners. That is why they have been allowed to have their guns this long. They have no problem eliminating the issue if one arises. It is those of us, who are tired of the fearful (mentally unwell) gun owners or their relatives getting their guns and shooting up innocent people that have a problem with it. You have given up. You have been beaten. I feel sorry for you, really I do. You are a servant and a slave of whatever world government comes into power. You have no freedom. You have given away your power. The government is nothing without the support of the people. Don't you know that? The people provide their sons and daughters to go to war for the government. So you really think that the people's sons and daughters are going to drop missiles on their own people? Really? Do you really believe that? Well if it is true, then what are they doing to our sons and daughters? Tis a dark world you are creating. I am the free one....lol I saw the wall and instead of beating my head up against it as gun fanatics are doing I flew around it. The wall still exists but I know how to live well with it there. I saw a wall too! It had 53,000 names on it of brothers and sisters who thought our 2nd amendment rights were worth dying for. The 1st amendment (which they also died for) says you have a right to your opinion, but does NOT give you the right to think you can impose it on others! Same to you. |
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Edited by
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LOL You are funny jean. I can't be a pawn in this game because the playing field doesn't even have pawns anymore...lol Except for those who believe there are pawns and they themselves are the little pawns holding their little rifles to a missile being dropped on their head. The playing field is now, the government is way more powerful than the people in firepower, no way around that. I know it, I accept it. No need to fear what is done and cannot be undone. The gun owners buy guns out of fear. Fear is not a healthy state of mind. If they believe it is to fight the government they are really out of their minds. The government really has no problem with the little private owners. That is why they have been allowed to have their guns this long. They have no problem eliminating the issue if one arises. It is those of us, who are tired of the fearful (mentally unwell) gun owners or their relatives getting their guns and shooting up innocent people that have a problem with it. You have given up. You have been beaten. I feel sorry for you, really I do. You are a servant and a slave of whatever world government comes into power. You have no freedom. You have given away your power. The government is nothing without the support of the people. Don't you know that? The people provide their sons and daughters to go to war for the government. So you really think that the people's sons and daughters are going to drop missiles on their own people? Really? Do you really believe that? Well if it is true, then what are they doing to our sons and daughters? Tis a dark world you are creating. I am the free one....lol I saw the wall and instead of beating my head up against it as gun fanatics are doing I flew around it. The wall still exists but I know how to live well with it there. I saw a wall too! It had 53,000 names on it of brothers and sisters who thought our 2nd amendment rights were worth dying for. The 1st amendment (which they also died for) says you have a right to your opinion, but does NOT give you the right to think you can impose it on others! Same to you. I fought to defend this country and the constitutution. That constitution says I have the right to bear arms! It doesn't say this or that kind, it says ARMS....PERIOD.... so I am not seeking to impose my will as you are, only my right... UNDER THE LAW!! |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Fri 12/21/12 02:46 PM
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Actually, you don't have a "right not to get shot." You have an inalienable right to "life," but it doesn't say a long life, a happy life, or even a pain free life. That is just something an individual implies because of an over inflated feeling of self worth. Grow up. Bad things happen, evil people exist, but the majority of the people walking this planet are mainly harmless. We have to stop making our laws and regulations as an adjustment for the least common denominator. Beg to disagree with part of it and that part is that WE AS A PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY DO OWE THE CHILDREN THE RIGHT NOT TO BE MOWED DOWN IN CLASS. It is a right our children should have. And the least common denominator is the gun owner. 40 percent of the country are legally armed. They are the lessor fearful ones. We need to stop the availability of guns to those who are not mentally capable of having one and sadly because they are scared enough to need a gun most gun owners would be mentally not well enough to have one. The right not to be shot should supersede the right to fearful shooters to shoot. We don't owe the children a god damn thing!! They don't vote, they don't pay taxes and they sure as hell don't contribute to society. This is not a country of children. I don't want this nation to have "child safe" as the standard of living, and the concept of it is ludicrous at best. Society is for those that survived childhood. I'm not responsible for YOUR children. YOU ARE!!! You have the responsibility to them, not the state. You want the state to be responsible? Then do it the right way. Remove all children from their parents at age 3, lock them away in federally sponsored orphanages and don't release them until they are adults. Until you are willing to do that, don't come crying to me about "the children." You had them, you raise them. It's bad enough we give "parents" tax breaks. You're rights also don't supersede mine. That's why they are called "rights." We all have them. You have a right to a gun same as me, you just don't choose to exercise it. How about we take away the right to vote for parents? Leave responsible decisions to the folks who can still think rationally and without worrying about "the children." That makes a lot more sense to me. We don't owe the children a god damn thing!! They don't vote, they don't pay taxes and they sure as hell don't contribute to society. This is not a country of children. I don't want this nation to have "child safe" as the standard of living, and the concept of it is ludicrous at best. So now your true color shows eh? Good show it...it is the way to free you and us. That's right. I am not one that you or the government can manipulate with that ridiculous propaganda about "protect the innocent children" bull crap that is currently and constantly EXPLOITED and spewed all over the place until I just want to puke. It makes me sick. So I would say to you, if you want me to protect your children from crazies, then give me guns and automatic weapons. Arm the teachers with guns, and bullet proof vests. Put an end to all of the harmful prescription psychotic drugs that have all these horrible side effects including the urge to commit suicide. Get rid of all the phony grief counselors who prescribe more mind altering anti-depressant drugs that just turn everyone into mind numbing zombies and crazies. People need to face their grief with full consciousness and freaking deal with reality. |
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LOL You are funny jean. I can't be a pawn in this game because the playing field doesn't even have pawns anymore...lol Except for those who believe there are pawns and they themselves are the little pawns holding their little rifles to a missile being dropped on their head. The playing field is now, the government is way more powerful than the people in firepower, no way around that. I know it, I accept it. No need to fear what is done and cannot be undone. The gun owners buy guns out of fear. Fear is not a healthy state of mind. If they believe it is to fight the government they are really out of their minds. The government really has no problem with the little private owners. That is why they have been allowed to have their guns this long. They have no problem eliminating the issue if one arises. It is those of us, who are tired of the fearful (mentally unwell) gun owners or their relatives getting their guns and shooting up innocent people that have a problem with it. You have given up. You have been beaten. I feel sorry for you, really I do. You are a servant and a slave of whatever world government comes into power. You have no freedom. You have given away your power. The government is nothing without the support of the people. Don't you know that? The people provide their sons and daughters to go to war for the government. So you really think that the people's sons and daughters are going to drop missiles on their own people? Really? Do you really believe that? Well if it is true, then what are they doing to our sons and daughters? Tis a dark world you are creating. I am the free one....lol I saw the wall and instead of beating my head up against it as gun fanatics are doing I flew around it. The wall still exists but I know how to live well with it there. I saw a wall too! It had 53,000 names on it of brothers and sisters who thought our 2nd amendment rights were worth dying for. The 1st amendment (which they also died for) says you have a right to your opinion, but does NOT give you the right to think you can impose it on others! Same to you. I fought to defend this country and the constitutution. That constitution says I have the right to bears arms! It doesn't say this or that kind, it says ARMS....PERIOD.... so I am not imposing my will, only my right... UNDER THE LAW!! And laws are made to protect and they will be changing to protect and if you are so inclined to defy the law, that will be on you.. I can guarantee that the law is going to change...for protection of those who need to be protected from possibly your gun if it gets in the wrong hands or if your brain fails you one day. |
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Edited by
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LOL You are funny jean. I can't be a pawn in this game because the playing field doesn't even have pawns anymore...lol Except for those who believe there are pawns and they themselves are the little pawns holding their little rifles to a missile being dropped on their head. The playing field is now, the government is way more powerful than the people in firepower, no way around that. I know it, I accept it. No need to fear what is done and cannot be undone. The gun owners buy guns out of fear. Fear is not a healthy state of mind. If they believe it is to fight the government they are really out of their minds. The government really has no problem with the little private owners. That is why they have been allowed to have their guns this long. They have no problem eliminating the issue if one arises. It is those of us, who are tired of the fearful (mentally unwell) gun owners or their relatives getting their guns and shooting up innocent people that have a problem with it. You have given up. You have been beaten. I feel sorry for you, really I do. You are a servant and a slave of whatever world government comes into power. You have no freedom. You have given away your power. The government is nothing without the support of the people. Don't you know that? The people provide their sons and daughters to go to war for the government. So you really think that the people's sons and daughters are going to drop missiles on their own people? Really? Do you really believe that? Well if it is true, then what are they doing to our sons and daughters? Tis a dark world you are creating. I am the free one....lol I saw the wall and instead of beating my head up against it as gun fanatics are doing I flew around it. The wall still exists but I know how to live well with it there. I saw a wall too! It had 53,000 names on it of brothers and sisters who thought our 2nd amendment rights were worth dying for. The 1st amendment (which they also died for) says you have a right to your opinion, but does NOT give you the right to think you can impose it on others! Same to you. I fought to defend this country and the constitutution. That constitution says I have the right to bears arms! It doesn't say this or that kind, it says ARMS....PERIOD.... so I am not imposing my will, only my right... UNDER THE LAW!! And laws are made to protect and they will be changing to protect and if you are so inclined to defy the law, that will be on you.. I can guarantee that the law is going to change...for protection of those who need to be protected from possibly your gun if it gets in the wrong hands or if your brain fails you one day. unless the corrupt DC crowd goes against the will of the people, once again takes another right by destroying our constitution.....good luck with that! All in the military swear an oath to defend the constitution.... Obozo better have his own army in place! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZn-Pq38B_Y&feature=youtu.be |
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Edited by
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That's right. The Military take an oath to protect the constitution. For them to obey an order from the government to cease or confiscate anyone's guns will be a violation of the oath.
The excuse for every "law" is that they are to "protect" the public. If you buy into that excuse. I don't. Laws are mostly Uniform Commercial Codes that's main function is to make money for the system with fines and fees and taxes. They are for control of (eventually) everything, to include your food, your guns, your business,.... everything. |
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That's right. The Military take an oath to protect the constitution. For them to obey an order from the government to cease or confiscate anyone's guns will be a violation of the oath. The excuse for every "law" is that they are to "protect" the public. If you buy into that excuse. I don't. Laws are mostly Uniform Commercial Codes that's main function is to make money for the system with fines and fees and taxes. They are for control of (eventually) everything, to include your food, your guns, your business,.... everything. LOL, the military already takes people's weapons and incarcerates them in the name of this country...some citizens even. The military is going to do what the government tells them to do just as they did in Iraq and all other places they probably knew they weren't suppose to be. If the threat becomes our own citizens well it will be like Waco or worse. If pushed to that level. The citizens will lose. There are better ways to fight with the government than stupid guns. Gun are no longer the protection from the government they used to be in our founders day. Now they are becoming a nuisance. |
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Okay since you think there are 'better' ways to fight a heavily armed 'government' then what is it?
voting? that's a laugh, since that is all rigged. Also, if the 'citizens' loose in an all out battle against a corrupt government, who will the government govern? The slaves and prisoners? You're the one who is funny with your strange ideas. |
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Edited by
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The military is going to do what the government tells them to do just as they did in Iraq and all other places they probably knew they weren't suppose to be. If the threat becomes our own citizens well it will be like Waco or worse. If pushed to that level. The citizens will lose. On this we agree. The founding fathers already knew the danger of standing armies. (That's why the the posse Comitatus Act was later brought in, so they could have a standing army that wouldn't intrude on the people's liberty…I heard it was repealed a few years ago, but that may not be true. In any event it is not being honoured.) Of course even standing armies aren't the worst of the evils the founding fathers foresaw: "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs." Thomas Jefferson, (Attributed) 3rd president of US (1743 - 1826) There are better ways to fight with the government than stupid guns. Gun are no longer the protection from the government they used to be in our founders day. Now they are becoming a nuisance. Again we agree (partially). The next American Revolution will be fought with money, so nobody should be arming the enemy by giving it to them to squander on the MIC. I really believe it can be a peaceful revolution, but peaceful or not, it's coming up fast. Guns may not be needed for it, but anyone who would relinquish their guns to a tyrant is either a coward or a fool or both. Even if it's only derringers against howitzers, it is still far better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it. |
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"Guns may not be needed for it, but anyone who would relinquish their guns to a tyrant is either a coward or a fool or both. Even if it's only derringers against howitzers, it is still far better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it."
If I lived in the City, I would probably have a gun. Home breakins are growing problem. |
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Imagine a mother who has children to protect. Imagine her home was broken into and someone wanted to kidnap her children.
She would probably wish she had a gun and would probably use it to protect her children. |
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A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.
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A civilian police state is no better than a state police state. Just a bit more disorganized. Kinda like a sybil police state so many personalities they will never see eye to eye and who knows whose children will be the next victims.
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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RoamingOrator: A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government. - George Washington Good for George! willowdraga: A civilian police state is no better than a state police state. Just a bit more disorganized. Kinda like a sybil police state so many personalities they will never see eye to eye and who knows whose children will be the next victims. There you go again spreading fear for the children. That broken record is getting worn out. It is like verbal terrorism or fear mongering. "...children will be the next victims..." Please. It is like holding someone's children hostage and saying... "if you don't pass these gun control laws, more children will die." I think you should give that a rest. |
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