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Topic: Putin Poised to Invade Ukraine.
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Fri 03/28/14 06:57 AM
Top Ukrainian security officials saidThursday that Russia now has 100,000 troops on its side of the Russia-Ukraine border. Other estimates put the number much lower, around 30,000, but still enough to overpower the undermanned and undersupplied Ukrainian armed forces.
CNN reportedWednesday that U.S. intelligence assessments have increased the likelihood that Russia will invade Ukraine in the past week. This has been based on a number of worrying indicators about the Russian military buildup on the Ukrainian border. “This has shifted our thinking that the likelihood of a further Russian incursion is more probable than it was previously thought to be,” one official told CNN.
Russian forces are currently positioned in and around the cities of Rostov, Kursk, and Belgorod and could try to establish a land corridor from Russian to Crimea by attacking the Ukrainian cities of Kharkiv, Luhansk and Donetsk. Russian agents have already been activein that region of Ukraine.
At Thursday’s State Department press briefing, Deputy Spokeswoman Marie Harf said that the size of the Russian force on the Ukrainian border was changing rapidly.
“We are constantly assessing how many there are, talking to the Ukrainians about that as well. But they are massed on the border,” she said. “And we are concerned about Russia taking further escalatory steps with whatever number of tens of thousands of troops they have there, and have called on them not to do so.”
In a speech in Brussels Wednesday, President Obama said that the U.S. and its allies will continue to progress with sanctions against Russia in response to its aggression in Crimea and its threatening actions toward the rest of Ukraine.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/28/ukraine-s-interior-minister-arsen-avakov-begs-rebels-to-help-defend-ukraine.html
The United Nations Security Council will meet Friday to discuss the ongoing crisis in Ukraine as concerns mount over new details about Russia's military buildup on the Ukrainian border, including Moscow's reported efforts to camouflage troops and equipment.
The council is expected to meet privately Friday afternoon, a day after the U.N. General Assembly approved a resolution affirming Ukraine's territorial integrity and deeming the referendum that led to Russia's annexation of the Crimean Peninsula illegal.
The vote came as the Pentagon said there are no indications that Russian forces along the border with Ukraine are carrying out the kind of legitimate military exercises that Moscow has cited as the reason for their controversial deployment in the region, Reuters reported.
"We've seen no specific indications that these -- that exercises -- are taking place," Pentagon spokesman Rear Adm. John Kirby told reporters.
"The thinking in the U.S. government is that the likelihood of a major Russian incursion into Ukraine has increased"
- senior U.S. official told Fox News
The Wall Street Journal reported late Friday that Russian troops are concealing their positions and establishing supply lines, stoking fears among U.S. intelligence agencies that have struggled to assess Russian President Vladimir Putin's plans.
Senior U.S. military officials told the newspaper that Russia's efforts to camouflage its forces and equipment could be designed to obscure images taken by American spy satellites or to conceal the location and size of their force from the Ukrainian military.
Another senior military official told The Journalthat the Pentagon is concerned that the Russians have moved into place additional supplies, such as food and spare parts, which could support both a routine exercise or a prolonged military incursion into Ukraine.
"They are positioning logistics. That is necessary for the exercise but could also be used for further aggression if they choose to go," the official said. "They have in place the capability, capacity and readiness they would need should they choose to conduct further aggression."
U.S. Defense officials told Fox News the numbers of troops far exceeds the amount needed for a training exercise. And the fact that there is no real evidence any large-scale exercises have occurred, and that none of the troops have returned to their bases, is also concerning to U.S. observers.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/03/28/concerns-mount-over-russian-troop-buildup-on-ukraine-border/
Obama calls on Putin to move troops from Ukraine border.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Fri 03/28/14 07:37 AM

The reality? You might as well say a landlord is preparing to evict bad tenants.

The bankers and their political puppets however, with the help of western corporate controlled, profit driven media, will paint a whole different picture, swallowed up by the idiots who actually believe the pressitute news anchors who bring on their DC talking heads to spout their daily lies as truths supporting the agenda.

The gullible stupidity amazes me!

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Fri 03/28/14 07:55 AM
Meanwhile, Michelle takes another vacation and Obama visits the Pope.happy

InvictusV's photo
Fri 03/28/14 08:07 AM
My Russian friends say the notion of an attack is absurd..

My Ukrainian friends believe an attack is imminent..

The propaganda is at a fever pitch..


Sojourning_Soul's photo
Fri 03/28/14 08:59 AM

My Russian friends say the notion of an attack is absurd..

My Ukrainian friends believe an attack is imminent..

The propaganda is at a fever pitch..




The key word being "propaganda"........

InvictusV's photo
Fri 03/28/14 09:18 AM


My Russian friends say the notion of an attack is absurd..

My Ukrainian friends believe an attack is imminent..

The propaganda is at a fever pitch..




The key word being "propaganda"........



"If people in the media cannot decide whether they are in the business of reporting news or manufacturing propaganda, it is all the more important that the public understand that difference, and choose their news sources accordingly."

Thomas Sowell


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Fri 03/28/14 09:33 AM
I wonder what Reagan would have done?

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Fri 03/28/14 10:50 AM

I wonder what Reagan would have done?


Made a speech to the people and taken a trip to his ranch in California?

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Fri 03/28/14 10:53 AM


The reality? You might as well say a landlord is preparing to evict bad tenants.

The bankers and their political puppets however, with the help of western corporate controlled, profit driven media, will paint a whole different picture, swallowed up by the idiots who actually believe the pressitute news anchors who bring on their DC talking heads to spout their daily lies as truths supporting the agenda.

The gullible stupidity amazes me!


I would say he is just trying to do his duty and protect his people in case the lights go out. You know how those criminals like to steal in the dark.

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Fri 03/28/14 10:55 AM

Meanwhile, Michelle takes another vacation and Obama visits the Pope.happy


I think Ms Odumbo should take those little would be entitlement fascists and vacation in Kiev. She could do the sightseeing thing there and they do need the money.

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Fri 03/28/14 10:58 AM

My Russian friends say the notion of an attack is absurd..

My Ukrainian friends believe an attack is imminent..

The propaganda is at a fever pitch..




That is what I would call this.

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Fri 03/28/14 01:05 PM
Not here for this but just noticed and would like a write short comment:

USA government did to my country even worse thing, they cut out Kosovo from Serbia with bombs while supporing separatist in my country. They did worse than Russians are doing now and there was not even one USA citizen living there.
So when Russians are doing same thing this is a problem for USA or many western countries....wondering why when Russia in this case have full right to do so.
And that Russians will attack Ukraine that is just propaganda, those are same people who believe in same things.... bad economy take its part some fools there in Ukraine believe they will be in EU one day...just a carrot for a donkeys there if you ask me
EU does not have future that is a fact

What would USA do if in (example) Canada someone do something similar to US citizens?

They will just rush in with army, omg look what they just do since Vietnam, its just going around like some world policeman and bashing people around

No wonder people all over the world started to hate Americans

Personaly I dont hate them, I just cant believe that some serious country as US is so short minded and careless in so serious things while distroying future of many young people all over the world...not to mention their lives

And simple americans just dont care about this untill some morons take bombs and throw them in US or elsewhere

Think about it

ps
well not so short comment now

lol

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Fri 03/28/14 01:24 PM
Edited by alnewman on Fri 03/28/14 01:25 PM

Not here for this but just noticed and would like a write short comment:

USA government did to my country even worse thing, they cut out Kosovo from Serbia with bombs while supporing separatist in my country. They did worse than Russians are doing now and there was not even one USA citizen living there.
So when Russians are doing same thing this is a problem for USA or many western countries....wondering why when Russia in this case have full right to do so.
And that Russians will attack Ukraine that is just propaganda, those are same people who believe in same things.... bad economy take its part some fools there in Ukraine believe they will be in EU one day...just a carrot for a donkeys there if you ask me
EU does not have future that is a fact

What would USA do if in (example) Canada someone do something similar to US citizens?

They will just rush in with army, omg look what they just do since Vietnam, its just going around like some world policeman and bashing people around

No wonder people all over the world started to hate Americans

Personaly I dont hate them, I just cant believe that some serious country as US is so short minded and careless in so serious things while distroying future of many young people all over the world...not to mention their lives

And simple americans just dont care about this untill some morons take bombs and throw them in US or elsewhere

Think about it

ps
well not so short comment now

lol


Thank you for a wonderful insight. But sir do not confuse America with the people, or at least not all of them. The people of America are under the same attack as exist outside our borders. It is but that almost half of the American people are the entitlement crowd and that so long as the government robs the others and gives to them they just stay dumb.

But more and more of the people are awaking every day as to the atrocities that are being committed to the people of the world by the world banking powers. And it is not just the US but the British are at the head of the column looking to feed at the power trough.

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Mon 03/31/14 09:11 AM
Germany's Foreign Minister, Frank-Walter Steinmeier, has welcomed a "slight reduction" in the number of Russian troops along Ukraine's border.
The Russian defence ministry said one motorised infantry battalion was withdrawing from the Rostov region.
After a meeting with his French and Polish counterparts, Mr Steinmeier said it was a "small signal" that the situation was becoming less tense.
Thousands of Russian soldiers are still said to be deployed along the border.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 03/31/14 11:44 AM

Not here for this but just noticed and would like a write short comment:

USA government did to my country even worse thing, they cut out Kosovo from Serbia with bombs while supporing separatist in my country. They did worse than Russians are doing now and there was not even one USA citizen living there.
So when Russians are doing same thing this is a problem for USA or many western countries....wondering why when Russia in this case have full right to do so.
And that Russians will attack Ukraine that is just propaganda, those are same people who believe in same things.... bad economy take its part some fools there in Ukraine believe they will be in EU one day...just a carrot for a donkeys there if you ask me
EU does not have future that is a fact

What would USA do if in (example) Canada someone do something similar to US citizens?

They will just rush in with army, omg look what they just do since Vietnam, its just going around like some world policeman and bashing people around

No wonder people all over the world started to hate Americans

Personaly I dont hate them, I just cant believe that some serious country as US is so short minded and careless in so serious things while distroying future of many young people all over the world...not to mention their lives

And simple americans just dont care about this untill some morons take bombs and throw them in US or elsewhere

Think about it

ps
well not so short comment now

lol


Many here feel your pain my friend.... don't give up hope. People are awakening to the reality of corruption in our govt, the blood money they take from the world bankers to facilitate the war machines for profit and personal gain, the corporations lobbying those corrupt politicos with their blood money, and the agendas that result.

Many are starting to see the realities, and hopefully will come to their senses and start electing statesmen that actually believe in the principals our great nation was founded on, to end this madness.... while we still have a wonderfully beautiful planet left.

Multi-national corporations, politicians, bankers, and lawyers are at war with the world to feed their greed..... we it's people are ALL victims until we come to our senses to stop them.

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Mon 03/31/14 12:37 PM
To add to the above post from Sojourning_Soul, the real problem with the world is the inability of the people to look after themselves, especially us idiot Americans (not all but a huge majority anyway).

But here is a not so short video that amplifies on the single problem, that when fixed would make all the rest of the world's problems start to solve themselves. But the problem is now to the point that it will be painful and that pain will last for some time.

But the sweet part is that nothing needs to be done, the problem is self correcting and that correction period is upon us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrwbgdtbdXE

Some say that the root of all evil is money, but it can't be, money is an inanimate object. Others say that the love of money is the root of evil, but that is obviously not true, there is no money in the world today so how do you account?

I hope that after watching the above video, the viewers can understand the statements above because the meaning of money is value. If you substitute value in place of money, then how can those statements be true.

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Mon 03/31/14 12:47 PM

To add to the above post from Sojourning_Soul, the real problem with the world is the inability of the people to look after themselves, especially us idiot Americans (not all but a huge majority anyway).

But here is a not so short video that amplifies on the single problem, that when fixed would make all the rest of the world's problems start to solve themselves. But the problem is now to the point that it will be painful and that pain will last for some time.

But the sweet part is that nothing needs to be done, the problem is self correcting and that correction period is upon us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrwbgdtbdXE

Some say that the root of all evil is money, but it can't be, money is an inanimate object. Others say that the love of money is the root of evil, but that is obviously not true, there is no money in the world today so how do you account?

I hope that after watching the above video, the viewers can understand the statements above because the meaning of money is value. If you substitute value in place of money, then how can those statements be true.


http://capitalismmagazine.com/2002/08/franciscos-money-speech/

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Mon 03/31/14 01:08 PM


To add to the above post from Sojourning_Soul, the real problem with the world is the inability of the people to look after themselves, especially us idiot Americans (not all but a huge majority anyway).

But here is a not so short video that amplifies on the single problem, that when fixed would make all the rest of the world's problems start to solve themselves. But the problem is now to the point that it will be painful and that pain will last for some time.

But the sweet part is that nothing needs to be done, the problem is self correcting and that correction period is upon us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrwbgdtbdXE

Some say that the root of all evil is money, but it can't be, money is an inanimate object. Others say that the love of money is the root of evil, but that is obviously not true, there is no money in the world today so how do you account?

I hope that after watching the above video, the viewers can understand the statements above because the meaning of money is value. If you substitute value in place of money, then how can those statements be true.


http://capitalismmagazine.com/2002/08/franciscos-money-speech/


that does address the axiom very well but doesn't address the specifics of how we got this way. All you need to do is look around to see the fault as Ayn did, nobody has value and as such accept things as they are.

Just look at those that support reforming the FED. Just how would that work? Bills of attainder would still be bills of attainder.

But also within Atlas Shrugged, it recognized the value of gold (don't remember any mention of silver). but from today's standpoint, that will no longer work either. The bank's have issued worthless pieces of paper and used it to steal a huge portion of the available gold on this planet. So now going to a gold standard would have the same effect as using a piece of paper.

So where do we go from here?

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Mon 03/31/14 03:44 PM

I wonder what Reagan would have done?


He would have invented a new word, propagagme. That's what.:thumbsup:

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Mon 03/31/14 04:19 PM
I think Reagan would have instantly started building the eastern European missile defense system.

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