Topic: Zee's Pub! - part 5
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Wed 07/02/14 11:47 AM

*Slinking in all cat-like and stuff*

:heart: flowerforyou

*Slinking out*




((((storm))))):heart:flowerswaving
I like the slinkin move Cat Woman *giggles*

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Wed 07/02/14 11:48 AM

The first step of me being able to move is done. :banana: :banana:

Now just a couple more steps and then I'll be outta here never to return. waving waving

It's been a long time coming



WOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOey.. sooooooooo happy the steps are startin ta happen for ya ((((sis)))) :banana: soon.. NJ will be HISTORY and you'll FINALLY be HOMEWARD-BOUND! :thumbsup:

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Wed 07/02/14 11:51 AM
Edited by BrandNewJourney on Wed 07/02/14 11:58 AM
((((Zee)))) flowerforyou waving :heart:

Just read your rant and KUDOS for saying NO! :thumbsup:
Sometimes we just have to say it, no matter how much we love the grandbabies.
Their parents need to be accountable...period...

Not sure why kids act this way myself.
I was a single mother of 3 and I had no family close to help.


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Wed 07/02/14 11:57 AM

((((Zee)))) flowerforyou waving



(((bnj))) flowerswaving

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Wed 07/02/14 11:58 AM



Make yourself a coffee, get some chocolate biscuits, and sit and chill for an hour, you'll feel much better:smile:


thanks Joe..drinker good advice.. maybe THAT'LL settle the tummy'n nerves *sighs*


you also deserve to put her out of your life for awhile and to say no sometimes soon.

I'm trying too.. hard though when the connection between my grandson and I is soo strong.. I miss him the moment he leaves but.. I'm putting distance between her and I.. however difficult it is for a mother to turn away from her child is..


Personally I would tell her to speak respectfully or communication of any kind would end.

I've tried repeatedly to get her to speak and treat people (AND myself) with respect.. I've tried by reminding her of my own actions of respect for others but.. she just doesn't get it.. sadly..

I could not handle that kind of stress on a regular basis. But we all have different tolerance levels.

I can't handle it any longer either and why I said NO when she spoke of wanting to move back home.. I will NOT tolerate my generous & easy going nature to be trod upon by ANYone.. regardless if she's my daughter


It sounds like somewhere she developed an attitude of entitlement (not your fault). But she made baby sooooooo she's agonna have to live with the consequences. honestly the sooner she learns that the happier you all will be...just my opinion


I agree that she needs to learn about life and consequences.. and thank you for the support.. it's hard to imagine I could have encouraged that type of behaviour for ANYone.. blows my mind.. however I do concur that this is her mess.. I just wish she'd leave me out of it is all.. *sighs* but again.. being so connected to my grandson makes for very difficult decisions..

thank you for your opinion though sweets.. much appreciated flowerforyou

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Wed 07/02/14 11:59 AM
on a final note sweets.. I DO say NO!! however she oftentimes doesn't hear the words ohwell

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Wed 07/02/14 11:59 AM
LOL I edited my post and man you are quick... surprised rofl

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Wed 07/02/14 12:02 PM

LOL I edited my post and man you are quick... surprised rofl


laugh they don't call me super-woman for NUTTIN ya know :wink:
laugh

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Wed 07/02/14 12:04 PM

((((Zee)))) flowerforyou waving :heart:

Just read your rant and KUDOS for saying NO! :thumbsup:
Sometimes we just have to say it, no matter how much we love the grandbabies.
Their parents need to be accountable...period...

Not sure why kids act this way myself.
I was a single mother of 3 and I had no family close to help.




I know what you mean.. as you read.. I had 2 and I didn't have ANY family to help me.. totally alone here.. never had them babysat NADA.. I would NEVER had done the things she's been doing.. just blows my mind I tell ya.. all my friends on fb that are connected with her are worried for her son too.. *sighs* my head is spinning from all this crap..

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Wed 07/02/14 03:13 PM


((((Zee)))) flowerforyou waving :heart:

Just read your rant and KUDOS for saying NO! :thumbsup:
Sometimes we just have to say it, no matter how much we love the grandbabies.
Their parents need to be accountable...period...

Not sure why kids act this way myself.
I was a single mother of 3 and I had no family close to help.




I know what you mean.. as you read.. I had 2 and I didn't have ANY family to help me.. totally alone here.. never had them babysat NADA.. I would NEVER had done the things she's been doing.. just blows my mind I tell ya.. all my friends on fb that are connected with her are worried for her son too.. *sighs* my head is spinning from all this crap..


OH I know what you mean. I would have never done a lot of things I have seen from some people. Somehow, somewhere I believe that respect has fallen to the wayside. I know I stopped being an enabler a long time ago, and not allowing them to use me was the first step. It is difficult as a parent because we always want to be there for our children. The one thing we must remember is we cannot always teach them from our own mistakes. Sometimes they don't understand what we are trying to tell them. They have to learn from their own mistakes for anything to sink in I think. The most we can really do is be there when they fall and then try to help them back up or at least help the grandchildren (depending on the situation).

Hugs & Strength My Friend flowerforyou :heart:

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Wed 07/02/14 03:18 PM


LOL I edited my post and man you are quick... surprised rofl


laugh they don't call me super-woman for NUTTIN ya know :wink:
laugh


Gonna have to find you a cape :laughing:

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Wed 07/02/14 04:07 PM



((((Zee)))) flowerforyou waving :heart:

Just read your rant and KUDOS for saying NO! :thumbsup:
Sometimes we just have to say it, no matter how much we love the grandbabies.
Their parents need to be accountable...period...

Not sure why kids act this way myself.
I was a single mother of 3 and I had no family close to help.




I know what you mean.. as you read.. I had 2 and I didn't have ANY family to help me.. totally alone here.. never had them babysat NADA.. I would NEVER had done the things she's been doing.. just blows my mind I tell ya.. all my friends on fb that are connected with her are worried for her son too.. *sighs* my head is spinning from all this crap..


OH I know what you mean. I would have never done a lot of things I have seen from some people. Somehow, somewhere I believe that respect has fallen to the wayside. I know I stopped being an enabler a long time ago, and not allowing them to use me was the first step. It is difficult as a parent because we always want to be there for our children. The one thing we must remember is we cannot always teach them from our own mistakes. Sometimes they don't understand what we are trying to tell them. They have to learn from their own mistakes for anything to sink in I think. The most we can really do is be there when they fall and then try to help them back up or at least help the grandchildren (depending on the situation).

Hugs & Strength My Friend flowerforyou :heart:


thanks ((bnj))) flowers:heart: its nice to know I'm not going bonkers here laugh specially about the 'respect' thingy noway can't figure out WHERE they get these tudes from.. sheesh.. and couldn't agree more that they have to learn on their own.. sadly.. the g-baby will have to suffer thru the brunt of her screw ups slaphead

I will offer to take her son every chance I get for a DAY only.. just enough to keep the connection going AND let him know I won't desert him.. that said.. I will NOT enable her ANY longer.. try as I might to be 'helpful' there's a point we arrive at where it's simply time to let go.. that point was arrived at last Saturday.. :thumbsup:

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Wed 07/02/14 04:08 PM



LOL I edited my post and man you are quick... surprised rofl


laugh they don't call me super-woman for NUTTIN ya know :wink:
laugh


Gonna have to find you a cape :laughing:


found one bigsmile

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Wed 07/02/14 04:09 PM
just for shites'n giggles :wink:



*sniggers*bigsmile

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Wed 07/02/14 04:15 PM

just for shites'n giggles :wink:



*sniggers*bigsmile


This one is the bestest because it SPARKLES!!!! bigsmile

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Thu 07/03/14 06:49 AM
laugh yeah.. I know eh? sparkles make it even more awesome :banana:

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Thu 07/03/14 07:01 AM




Make yourself a coffee, get some chocolate biscuits, and sit and chill for an hour, you'll feel much better:smile:


thanks Joe..drinker good advice.. maybe THAT'LL settle the tummy'n nerves *sighs*


you also deserve to put her out of your life for awhile and to say no sometimes soon.

I'm trying too.. hard though when the connection between my grandson and I is soo strong.. I miss him the moment he leaves but.. I'm putting distance between her and I.. however difficult it is for a mother to turn away from her child is..


Personally I would tell her to speak respectfully or communication of any kind would end.

I've tried repeatedly to get her to speak and treat people (AND myself) with respect.. I've tried by reminding her of my own actions of respect for others but.. she just doesn't get it.. sadly..

I could not handle that kind of stress on a regular basis. But we all have different tolerance levels.

I can't handle it any longer either and why I said NO when she spoke of wanting to move back home.. I will NOT tolerate my generous & easy going nature to be trod upon by ANYone.. regardless if she's my daughter


It sounds like somewhere she developed an attitude of entitlement (not your fault). But she made baby sooooooo she's agonna have to live with the consequences. honestly the sooner she learns that the happier you all will be...just my opinion


I agree that she needs to learn about life and consequences.. and thank you for the support.. it's hard to imagine I could have encouraged that type of behaviour for ANYone.. blows my mind.. however I do concur that this is her mess.. I just wish she'd leave me out of it is all.. *sighs* but again.. being so connected to my grandson makes for very difficult decisions..

thank you for your opinion though sweets.. much appreciated flowerforyou



I doubt you encourages bad behavior Z, and I don;t think you have to "turn away " from your children. Sometimes love does include the word no....and some kids handle that better than others. I see kids within the same family with the same parents handle those types of situations and behaviors differently so there is more to it than what kind of parent one is. Just wanted to offer a word or two of support. :)

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Thu 07/03/14 07:07 AM
mornin peeples wavingdrinker


I'm OFF today YAY.. (although not yay for the pocket book whoa) but YAY for having time off ta do things that NEED bein doin :thumbsup:

already walked a mile with da pooch.. fed the 'gang' and got gas for the mower.. plus prepared all the gear for some landscaping.. just stopped fer a quick smokin before I heads back outside again bigsmile

yesterday the youngest called to ask if we could have g-baby's b-day party here this Sunday.. my response? NO! noway I believe that NO was heard LOUD'n CLEAR! :banana: I don't think I should have to spend hours cleaning, baking, preparing and setting up things.. so she can get out of prep AND walk away afterwards withOUT cleaning up.. I WILL however pick him up one day next week and spend some FUN time with him at the park, going for a shoreline adventure and maybe do a wee bit of mall with him for lunch happy AND.. haven't mentioned a THING about being OFF today'n tomorrow bigsmile

so far today? not a PEEP :banana: me LIKEY :thumbsup:

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Thu 07/03/14 07:19 AM

I doubt you encourages bad behavior Z, and I don;t think you have to "turn away " from your children. Sometimes love does include the word no....and some kids handle that better than others. I see kids within the same family with the same parents handle those types of situations and behaviors differently so there is more to it than what kind of parent one is. Just wanted to offer a word or two of support. :)



thanks sweets.. flowerforyou I certainly do NOT encourage bad behavior.. but I do kinda have to turn away from her.. she relys on me WAY too much and turns to me whenever things go wrong.. she considers me her 'best friend'.. best friends sometimes have to take a step back when things heat up, and at other times.. just walk away for a spell.. currently? I'm her 'parent' and simply walking away for now.. the drama is toxic and I have my own problems to worry about.. I simply can't allow myself to be dragged into the bs she's created.. however unlike her father.. I can't just stick my head in the sand and pretend, everything will be okay either *sighs*.. however I am trying.. the plan is to keep a distance, but at the same time.. keep informed! happy

you're totally right about situations and behaviors regardless of the parents.. some kids just don't seem to get it.. at least not right away :wink:

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Thu 07/03/14 07:23 AM




I've tried repeatedly to get her to speak and treat people (AND myself) with respect.. I've tried by reminding her of my own actions of respect for others but.. she just doesn't get it.. sadly..

that reminds me of my sister and mother. some people need it really spelled out. like my mom said to her, "When you say hurtful things, you hurt people"

and it was like a light went on. my sister gave a look of shock, and said, "OH!"

She has also struggled with entitlement issues.


she has her "oh" moments too.. and I think "FINALLY" then the next day "POOF".. it's like a re-set button was pushed slaphead

some kids whoa :laughing:

thanks for the input klc.. much appreciated flowerforyou